northernraider Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 29 minutes ago, SiouxFan100 said: Would it be a good thing for Grand Forks if Sanford bought the hospital? Would health care improve, get worse or stay the same? Maybe Mayo? Already have the records agreement and Mayo could use another satellite location as Rochester is being more difficult to get into as a patient. Plus the UND Med School affiliation would be a nice perk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 18 hours ago, yzerman19 said: Better to scale back than live with a bad decision...kinda like getting married. healthcare is not a booming industry. Customers don’t want to have to pay for it... Does the ideology that we all have just 12 years to live trump the ideology of "Medicare For All" in the decision to scale back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Anyone that works in the trenches in actually providing the care in today's industry knows it's a less than perfect system........all insurance payers want to continually reimbursement less for services provided, patients continually want less personal accountability for their own well being and healthcare administrators are happy to continually add more non-revenue producing layers of the onion at ridiculous salary costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 29 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Doesn't the ideology that we all have just 12 years to live trump the ideology of "Medicare For All" in the decision to scale back? Ha! I hadn’t thought about that irony before...but I’ve never bought into 12 years from annihilation either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Be careful what you wish for. Altru could easily sell...once you do that though you lose local autonomy. Decisions would not be focused on grand forks interests. Which in theory senior management would be considering and the board would be reinforcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 9 hours ago, yzerman19 said: Be careful what you wish for. Altru could easily sell...once you do that though you lose local autonomy. Decisions would not be focused on grand forks interests. Which in theory senior management would be considering and the board would be reinforcing. Let’s stop acting like Altru is a good hospital. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshhall Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 My experiences having family members get services at Altru has been only positive. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 32 minutes ago, walshhall said: My experiences having family members get services at Altru has been only positive. It's just like the debate that people have on restaurants, people have good and bad experiences everywhere. I have heard plenty of good and bad things about Altru, and likewise I have heard plenty of good and bad things about Sanford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 I guess I'd rather have a 5 story facility at 95% full than a 7 story at 65% full. I'm thinking the economics works out better. Being the first member of the Mayo Clinic Care Network, I wish they'd get the Mayo name more prominent around the facilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted December 16, 2019 Author Share Posted December 16, 2019 15 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: Let’s stop acting like Altru is a good hospital. Ah, US News and World Report on line one for you. https://www.altru.org/about-us/who-we-are/2019/us-news--world-report-names-altru-hospital-best-in-red-river-val/ Best in Red River Valley; Number One in ND. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted December 16, 2019 Share Posted December 16, 2019 1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said: Ah, US News and World Report on line one for you. https://www.altru.org/about-us/who-we-are/2019/us-news--world-report-names-altru-hospital-best-in-red-river-val/ Best in Red River Valley; Number One in ND. I value the opinions of individual providers more than organizations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 5 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: Ah, US News and World Report on line one for you. https://www.altru.org/about-us/who-we-are/2019/us-news--world-report-names-altru-hospital-best-in-red-river-val/ Best in Red River Valley; Number One in ND. US news and world report obviously didn’t come eat at altru. seriously best hospital in North Dakota? They don’t offer half of what Sanford can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Redneksioux said: US news and world report obviously didn’t come eat at altru. ...or ever been admitted to altru, or been seen at altru, or worked for altru, or visited altru, or been chronically misdiagnosed by altru, or had a relative go in for a routine procedure and never come out of altru I'd rather be taken to the doctor from "Million ways to die in the west" than altru. Better chance with an ear nail and bluejay pecking out the wound .....IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperkick Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Sanford >>> Civil War medical practices >>> Altru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Siouxperkick said: Sanford >>> Civil War medical practices >>> Altru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 The nursing care at Altru is exceptional. The doctors staff is missing some good specialists. But scheduling is so important and Altru missed a surgery window by hours and my father spend many months in Rehab likely because of it. Surgery is risky everywhere though and too many patients look as it as a panacea. Personally, couldn’t find any good doctors to treat me in the entire Southeast, until I went to an alternative practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 I don't really have anything bad to say about either Altru or Sanford, and I or my family have been referred to both about equally over the years. I live 100 miles away from both and whenever one of us gets "sent on", our primary doctor basically asks what city we prefer, Grand Forks or Fargo. I have been very pleased with the care that Altru provided to my children over the years. tnt had a good analogy with the restaurant comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 It’s still laughable that altru could be chosen to be the best hospital in the state when they offer a fraction of the services available at Sanford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fella Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 On 12/16/2019 at 9:05 PM, Redneksioux said: US news and world report obviously didn’t come eat at altru. seriously best hospital in North Dakota? They don’t offer half of what Sanford can. And what they Altru offers is twice as bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Reading this board people complain when a business closes now they are complaining because a business is building new every hospital has its share of problems but be without one and see what happens to your city 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Altru has been great for my family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 Having seen first hand how Sanford treats staff and volunteers I won't walk into a Sanford facility. And I hear their staff timing metrics are something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 Best part of Altru? Access to Mayo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 6 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: Best part of Altru? Access to Mayo. So you can ask for a transfer! Seriously though I appreciate that Altru can keep some patients local. But many patients are too complex for Altru, they just don’t have the specialists and thankfully they usually accept the fact that they can’t be something that they aren’t, usually! And my gripe about their food is 100% real. Anyone that’s spent some time as inpatient knows that altru’s food is horrid. Go check out Sanford and their 3 different cafe options, not so horrible they need to hide them in the basement. For most people that reason alone is enough. Personally I’ve had good and bad experiences with altru and will use them for as much as possible. Unfortunately that equals less than half of my family’s care because they don’t have the appropriate resources. So it’s my opinion US World report should really take back their best hospital in ND award. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 11 hours ago, Kab said: Reading this board people complain when a business closes now they are complaining because a business is building new every hospital has its share of problems but be without one and see what happens to your city Who is complaining about altru building new? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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