New Hospital Facility in GF

[northernraider]

29 minutes ago, SiouxFan100 said:

Would it be a good thing for Grand Forks if Sanford bought the hospital? Would health care improve, get worse or stay the same?

Maybe Mayo? Already have the records agreement and Mayo could use another satellite location as Rochester is being more difficult to get into as a patient. Plus the UND Med School affiliation would be a nice perk. 

[Oxbow6]

18 hours ago, yzerman19 said:

Better to scale back than live with a bad decision...kinda like getting married.  

healthcare is not a booming industry.  Customers don’t want to have to pay for it...

Does the ideology that we all have just 12 years to live trump the ideology of "Medicare For All" in the decision to scale back?

[Oxbow6]

Anyone that works in the trenches in actually providing the care in today's industry knows it's a less than perfect system........all insurance payers want to continually reimbursement less for services provided, patients continually want less personal accountability for their own well being and healthcare administrators are happy to continually add more non-revenue producing layers of the onion at ridiculous salary costs.

[yzerman19]

29 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

Doesn't the ideology that we all have just 12 years to live trump the ideology of "Medicare For All" in the decision to scale back?

Ha!  I hadn’t thought about that irony before...but I’ve never bought into 12 years from annihilation either.

[yzerman19]

Be careful what you wish for.  Altru could easily sell...once you do that though you lose local autonomy.  Decisions would not be focused on grand forks interests.  Which in theory senior management would be considering and the board would be reinforcing.  

[geaux_sioux]

9 hours ago, yzerman19 said:

Be careful what you wish for.  Altru could easily sell...once you do that though you lose local autonomy.  Decisions would not be focused on grand forks interests.  Which in theory senior management would be considering and the board would be reinforcing.  

Let’s stop acting like Altru is a good hospital.

[walshhall]

My experiences having family members get services at Altru has been only positive. 

[tnt]

32 minutes ago, walshhall said:

My experiences having family members get services at Altru has been only positive. 

It's just like the debate that people have on restaurants, people have good and bad experiences everywhere.  I have heard plenty of good and bad things about Altru, and likewise I have heard plenty of good and bad things about Sanford.  

[The Sicatoka]

I guess I'd rather have a 5 story facility at 95% full than a 7 story at 65% full. I'm thinking the economics works out better. 

Being the first member of the Mayo Clinic Care Network, I wish they'd get the Mayo name more prominent around the facilities. 

[The Sicatoka]

15 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:

Let’s stop acting like Altru is a good hospital.

Ah, US News and World Report on line one for you. 

https://www.altru.org/about-us/who-we-are/2019/us-news--world-report-names-altru-hospital-best-in-red-river-val/ 

Best in Red River Valley; Number One in ND. 

[geaux_sioux]

1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:

Ah, US News and World Report on line one for you. 

https://www.altru.org/about-us/who-we-are/2019/us-news--world-report-names-altru-hospital-best-in-red-river-val/ 

Best in Red River Valley; Number One in ND. 

I value the opinions of individual providers more than organizations. 

[Redneksioux]

5 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

Ah, US News and World Report on line one for you. 

https://www.altru.org/about-us/who-we-are/2019/us-news--world-report-names-altru-hospital-best-in-red-river-val/ 

Best in Red River Valley; Number One in ND. 

US news and world report obviously didn’t come eat at altru.

 

seriously best hospital in North Dakota? They don’t offer half of what Sanford can.

[Frozen4sioux]

3 hours ago, Redneksioux said:

US news and world report obviously didn’t come eat at altru.

...or ever been admitted to altru, or been seen at altru, or worked for altru, or visited altru, or been chronically misdiagnosed by altru, or had a relative go in for a routine procedure and never come out of altru 

I'd rather be taken to the doctor from "Million ways to die in the west" than altru.

Better chance with an ear nail and bluejay pecking out the wound .....IMO.

[Siouxperkick]

Sanford >>> Civil War medical practices >>> Altru 

[Oxbow6]

1 hour ago, Siouxperkick said:

Sanford >>> Civil War medical practices >>> Altru 

[SiouxVolley]

The nursing care at Altru is exceptional.  The doctors staff is missing some good specialists.

But scheduling is so important and Altru missed a surgery window by hours and my father spend many months in Rehab likely because of it.  Surgery is risky everywhere though and too many patients look as it as a panacea.

Personally, couldn’t find any good doctors to treat me in the entire Southeast, until I went to an alternative practice.

[bincitysioux]

I don't really have anything bad to say about either Altru or Sanford, and I or my family have been referred to both about equally over the years.  I live 100 miles away from both and whenever one of us gets "sent on", our primary doctor basically asks what city we prefer, Grand Forks or Fargo.

I have been very pleased with the care that Altru provided to my children over the years.

tnt had a good analogy with the restaurant comparison.    

[Redneksioux]

It’s still laughable that altru could be chosen to be the best hospital in the state when they offer a fraction of the services available at Sanford. 

[Old Fella]

On 12/16/2019 at 9:05 PM, Redneksioux said:

US news and world report obviously didn’t come eat at altru.

 

seriously best hospital in North Dakota? They don’t offer half of what Sanford can.

And what they Altru offers is  twice as bad.

[Kab]

Reading this board people complain when a business closes 

now they are complaining because a business is building new

every hospital has its share of problems but be without one and see what happens to your city

 

 

[UNDBIZ]

Altru has been great for my family. 

[The Sicatoka]

Having seen first hand how Sanford treats staff and volunteers I won't walk into a Sanford facility. 

And I hear their staff timing metrics are something else.

[The Sicatoka]

Best part of Altru? Access to Mayo. 

[Redneksioux]

6 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

Best part of Altru? Access to Mayo. 

So you can ask for a transfer!

Seriously though I appreciate that Altru can keep some patients local. But many patients are too complex for Altru, they just don’t have the specialists and thankfully they usually accept the fact that they can’t be something that they aren’t, usually!

And my gripe about their food is 100% real. Anyone that’s spent some time as inpatient knows that altru’s food is horrid. Go check out Sanford and their 3 different cafe options, not so horrible they need to hide them in the basement. For most people that reason alone is enough. 

Personally I’ve had good and bad experiences with altru and will use them for as much as possible. Unfortunately that equals less than half of my family’s care because they don’t have the appropriate resources. So it’s my opinion US World report should really take back their best hospital in ND award.

[Redneksioux]

11 hours ago, Kab said:

Reading this board people complain when a business closes 

now they are complaining because a business is building new

every hospital has its share of problems but be without one and see what happens to your city

 

 

Who is complaining about altru building new?