SiouxVolley Posted January 11, 2018 Author Share Posted January 11, 2018 This article says WMU and GVSU are in an enrollment war, with GVSU winning even without DI athletics. http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2017/12/a_tale_of_two_schools_comparin.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Sounds like chaves wants to take Und to next level and has hockey experience to appease the hockey only folks. Ewu club has record donations and record members too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 And they have to compete with many more schools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 I would be stunned if the guy from EWU didn't get the job. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 5 hours ago, gundy1124 said: I am not understanding the man crush on Chaves. I listened to about half, seems good with a slight bit of heard it before. Me thinks a personal connection with Mike is clouding the picture for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Leader in the clubhouse.........Chevy Chase then....WMU guy ....Mike ....Job Jumper Hopefully the committee will narrow it down to just 2 finalists................but then at a later date decide to go to 3 finalists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 11 hours ago, gundy1124 said: I am not understanding the man crush on Chaves. I listened to about half, seems good with a slight bit of heard it before. Man crush is a bit much, I think. His "having done this before and currently doing this" is certainly a plus. I think Chaves' values and individual thinking is well demonstrated and impressive in that video I posted. Most importantly, though, is that he is the only standing athletic director of the finalists and he has done very well at that position. Furthermore, he's familiar and apparently good at running a department at the FCS level. He's a two-time national athletic director of the year honors recipient. The other candidates just don't compare. I think Mannausau could keep UND at the status quo, but what has he done that suggests he could elevate football and basketball? I don't think he could meet lofty expectations (nor set high expectations beyond hockey only) and Chaves could do that purely through experience. Chaves also has the outside connections that "a UND guy" wouldn't consider or consult towards. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Bill Chávez is a Two-time nat'l AD award winner. UND needs to make this happen. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 They don’t just hand out those national awards....this man may be just what UND needs. I was most impressed with how he said, and did not say, about some B.B. mess. He cleaned it up and moved on from what I gather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Although I think Chaves has to be the guy, Faison won a national AD of the year award too. Just saying. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 1 hour ago, UNDBIZ said: Although I think Chaves has to be the guy, Faison won a national AD of the year award too. Just saying. Q: What's better than a national AD of the year award? A: two 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodak78 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 So is the committee meeting this morning or did the storm shut it down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jdub27 Posted January 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2018 After listening to/meeting the candidates, here's my cliff notes: Porter - Fairly well rounded, though mainly within one school. Definitely did his homework and knew what to say to play to some of the crowd. Came off as ambitious but tough to tell if his track record backs up everything he said. Seemed a little rehearsed on a few things but was very informed.Mannausau - Played to his strengths: ties to UND. Focused much of his conversation around that. Had good ideas about how to handle the rest of the stuff, though unproven in that. Slightly concerned about the skill sets of those he said he would lean on to help with his experience shortfalls.Elliott - Wide variety of experience with some proven results in quite a few of them. An outside the box thinker that would bring some good ideas to the table. Didn't seem quite as prepared on some specifics, some of which is to be expected, but could hamper some of her ideas.Chaves - Was able to talk about what he has done instead of hypotheticals but in a way that gives him future flexibility to adapt to UND's needs. Very well-rounded, very personable. Thought he overplayed his affinity for hockey a bit, but likely done because EWU doesn't sponsor it, leaving a little gap in his resume that he wanted to clear up. Verdict: Chaves with a bullet. Not even sure it is that close, which says more about him than it does the other candidates, who were all very good. Second: everyone else with the order determined on what skill set you value. All were quality candidates, all had their strengths and all had their weaknesses. The only way I don't see it being Chaves is if one of the other candidates is able to convince Kennedy that their area of expertise is so important that the deficiencies they have can easily be overcome/overlooked. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmksioux Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 17 minutes ago, Nodak78 said: So is the committee meeting this morning or did the storm shut it down? So according to this article: http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/4386220-eastern-washingtons-bill-chaves-last-finalist-interview-unds-athletic-director-post the committee is meeting Friday. Not sure if it's due to the blizzard or if that was the plan all along. Quote The UND AD search committee will now meet Friday morning to discuss the finalists in an effort to provide recommendations to President Mark Kennedy, who will ultimately make a decision . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Would chaves want to much $$$? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, dmksioux said: So according to this article: http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/4386220-eastern-washingtons-bill-chaves-last-finalist-interview-unds-athletic-director-post the committee is meeting Friday. Not sure if it's due to the blizzard or if that was the plan all along. . Again.......SIXTEEN committee members to make a recommendation. I can't even image the s**t show that is going to be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 8 hours ago, Shawn-O said: Me thinks a personal connection with Mike is clouding the picture for you. How long have you known Chaves? Buds that go way back.......or just going off a resume and 1 interview? Right, thought so. Should I apologize cause I said some good things about a person I have know since '93? I don't think that makes things cloudy, actually makes things perfectly clear on who 1 person is while not having that luxury with the others. There is a known commodity verses some resumes and interviews and some awards that are really based on the coaching success at your school. I could see Chaves, Mannausau, or Porter in the position and I think it's a 3 man race. Their successes or failures will be known in the coming years. We just look at this differently based on our backgrounds. I don't need my judgment questioned by you - that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 I think we can all agree chaves is the most qualified Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 25 minutes ago, gundy1124 said: There is a known commodity verses some resumes and interviews... I completely agree. UND should go with the man that UND has first-hand knowledge of being a successful AD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-1 Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 How does UND have "first hand" knowledge of any of the candidates being a successful AD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 50 minutes ago, gundy1124 said: How long have you known Chaves? Buds that go way back.......or just going off a resume and 1 interview? Right, thought so. Should I apologize cause I said some good things about a person I have know since '93? I don't think that makes things cloudy, actually makes things perfectly clear on who 1 person is while not having that luxury with the others. There is a known commodity verses some resumes and interviews and some awards that are really based on the coaching success at your school. I could see Chaves, Mannausau, or Porter in the position and I think it's a 3 man race. Their successes or failures will be known in the coming years. We just look at this differently based on our backgrounds. I don't need my judgment questioned by you - that's for sure. No apology sought or necessary. This kind of loyalty and thoughtfulness is why the football alumni are my favorite posters here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 51 minutes ago, gundy1124 said: How long have you known Chaves? Buds that go way back.......or just going off a resume and 1 interview? Right, thought so. Should I apologize cause I said some good things about a person I have know since '93? I don't think that makes things cloudy, actually makes things perfectly clear on who 1 person is while not having that luxury with the others. There is a known commodity verses some resumes and interviews and some awards that are really based on the coaching success at your school. I could see Chaves, Mannausau, or Porter in the position and I think it's a 3 man race. Their successes or failures will be known in the coming years. We just look at this differently based on our backgrounds. I don't need my judgment questioned by you - that's for sure. I trust Mike 100%. Can’t say the same for the others. Is that worth more than experience as an AD? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 I started a poll kennedy has no edpierence in the ad department. He needs an experienced guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 If it’s Chaves maybe elevate Mike to Deputy AD? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Shawn-O said: If it’s Chaves maybe elevate Mike to Deputy AD? This could be a good move. He is relatively young so get him the necessary experience because IMO I think he could be a great AD one day. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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