nodak651 Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 11:25 PM, forksandspoons said: Anyone?! In my opinion, at this level and above, it's ineffective. Expand BUT THE PLAYERS DON"T EXECUTE herrderr... Play calling is great! 1 Quote
Cratter Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 Certainly out recruited by the Coyotes at QB. Quote “They (South Dakota) did the extra things to show they care,” Streveler said of new head coach Bob Nielson, who won the 2008 and 2010 NCAA Division II titles at Minnesota Duluth. Expand Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 11:23 PM, geaux_sioux said: The defections of Grady, Williams, and that guys from Kansas didn't help one bit. Three really good recruits gone from one class. Expand Shhhhh, those are just "excuses"! (sarcasm) Quote
Midwestern Hawk Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 11:25 PM, forksandspoons said: Anyone?! In my opinion, at this level and above, it's ineffective. Expand It can be effective if it is setup properly. Needs to be faked on many plays to be really effective IMO. It is a way UND could spread out the 7-8 in the box in addition to play action. Adeotti with his speed could be very effective in this role. After a couple of big gainers, it changes everything for the defense. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 11:31 PM, Midwestern Hawk said: It can be effective if it is setup properly. Needs to be faked on many plays to be really effective IMO. It is a way UND could spread out the 7-8 in the box in addition to play action. Adeotti with his speed could be very effective in this role. After a couple of big gainers, it changes everything for the defense. Expand No, don't you understand? We have to run it up the middle over and over again! Anything else is too risky! (sarcasm) 1 Quote
forksandspoons Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 11:31 PM, Midwestern Hawk said: It can be effective if it is setup properly. Needs to be faked on many plays to be really effective IMO. It is a way UND could spread out the 7-8 in the box in addition to play action. Adeotti with his speed could be very effective in this role. After a couple of big gainers, it changes everything for the defense. Expand I get that. But if you look around the FCS and FBS, can you think of a single good team that runs it (or fakes it) to the extent UND does? Why does UND feel it works so well when others don't? Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 11:35 PM, mooncountry said: Rebuilding for the last 10ish yrs? Expand Has Bubba been in charge for the last 10-ish years? No? Then take your ignorant comments elsewhere! I am not in the mood for nonsense today. 2 Quote
SlowHand Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 11:25 PM, forksandspoons said: Anyone?! In my opinion, at this level and above, it's ineffective. Expand Oklahoma, Iowa, Oregon, Dallas Cowboys, Minnesota Vikings, Seahawks, most NFL teams, etc........ Quote
Longtime fan Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 What was unds first offensive play? Quote
geaux_sioux Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 11:35 PM, mooncountry said: Rebuilding for the last 10ish yrs? Expand Yea like last year. Total rebuild mode. GTFOH. Quote
forksandspoons Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 11:37 PM, SlowHand said: Oklahoma, Iowa, Oregon, Dallas Cowboys, Minnesota Vikings, Seahawks, most NFL teams, etc........ Expand To the extent UND does? No. A couple times a game, sure. Quote
Bison06 Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 11:25 PM, forksandspoons said: Anyone?! In my opinion, at this level and above, it's ineffective. Expand It was a major staple of NDSU's offense during their run. Ohio state also runs it pretty consistently. 1 Quote
geaux_sioux Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 11:39 PM, Bison06 said: It was a major staple of NDSU's offense during their run. Ohio state also runs it pretty consistently. Expand It's a staple in football in general right now. All levels use it. Quote
SlowHand Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 11:39 PM, forksandspoons said: To the extent UND does? No. A couple times a game, sure. Expand Percy Harvin runs it a LOT for Seattle. Quote
forksandspoons Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 11:39 PM, Bison06 said: It was a major staple of NDSU's offense during their run. Ohio state also runs it pretty consistently. Expand I've watched nearly every NDSU game for more than the last 5-6 years. I realize teams run it, but it seems UND runs it way more often than anyone. Quote
Sioux94 Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 11:38 PM, Longtime fan said: What was unds first offensive play? Expand It was a pass, a roll out to his right. It was incomplete. Quote
Bison06 Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 11:41 PM, forksandspoons said: I've watched nearly every NDSU game for more than the last 5-6 years. I realize teams run it, but it seems UND runs it way more often than anyone. Expand NDSU ran it more than UND does now when Ryan smith was on the team. Quote
Longtime fan Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 11:42 PM, Sioux94 said: It was a pass, a roll out to his right. It was incomplete. Expand Wow!! Santiago injured?? Quote
forksandspoons Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 11:41 PM, SlowHand said: Percy Harvin runs it a LOT for Seattle. Expand Percy Harvin hasn't played for Seattle in a while and had 11 rushing attempts in 2014 when he did Quote
forksandspoons Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 11:43 PM, Bison06 said: NDSU ran it more than UND does now when Ryan smith was on the team. Expand I'll eat my crow on that one. Quote
cberkas Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 11:41 PM, SlowHand said: Percy Harvin runs it a LOT for Seattle. Expand I think he retired. Quote
forksandspoons Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 11:47 PM, forksandspoons said: I'll eat my crow on that one. Expand On 9/16/2017 at 11:43 PM, Bison06 said: NDSU ran it more than UND does now when Ryan smith was on the team. Expand Well, maybe. Smith had 11 carries in 14 games in '13-14. Obviously und players aren't racking up the carries off the sweep, either. Quote
Cratter Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 11:41 PM, forksandspoons said: I've watched nearly every NDSU game for more than the last 5-6 years. I realize teams run it, but it seems UND runs it way more often than anyone. Expand UND didn't run it that much. Fake it a few times, ran it a couple. That's football man. Get use to it. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 11:44 PM, mooncountry said: Chill out. Who'd we beat last year? Last year got everyone's heads alittle too big and while I don't think UND is 38 points worse than USD, I do think this schedule is waaaay more difficult than last years and we have yet to prove the rankings. Expand You make an asinine comment about rebuilding for 10-ish years and you think you won't get push back? Quote
forksandspoons Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 11:52 PM, Cratter said: UND didn't run it that much. Fake it a few times, ran it a couple. That's football man. Get use to it. Expand Let me vent, man. 1 Quote
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