bison73 Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 1:36 AM, bang said: Oh boy, I didn't think this would turn into a teenage girls self esteem building class. Bison 73, you need to make three positive comments about Rob Port's physical features before you post here again. Sorry, but Port with his writings and investigative work has opened himself up for ridicule. It's part of his job. If he's going to ruin people's careers with his opinions and fact findings. Being called fat should be least of his worries. Expand I could of called him drunk and fat? My angst with him has more to do withe fact hes a puppet for his political handlers agenda and then acts like hes doing everyone a public service and is a champion for social justice. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 2:46 AM, bang said: He may blame Port and call him fat. Expand He may, but it wouldn't be all that professional; let's hope if he does it he's smart enough to not do it in public or in a discoverable text or email. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 2:57 AM, bison73 said: I could of called him drunk and fat? My angst with him has more to do withe fact hes a puppet for his political handlers agenda and then acts like hes doing everyone a public service and is a champion for social justice. Expand When Port runs on innuendo I have a problem. In this case the proof was written by Bresciani himself and he had to know it was discoverable based on past FOIA requests from FCC and Port. Quote
bison73 Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 3:07 AM, The Sicatoka said: When Port runs on innuendo I have a problem. In this case the proof was written by Bresciani himself and he had to know it was discoverable based on past FOIA requests from FCC and Port. Expand My post was more about the body of his work. This time around he was more like the blind pig finding an acorn. DB shot himself in the foot this time around. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 3:37 AM, bison73 said: My post was more about the body of his work. This time around he was more like the blind pig finding an acorn. DB shot himself in the foot this time around. Expand No, he shot himself in the face and tried to act like nothing happened. Tis but a scratch! Quote
jdub27 Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 2:57 AM, bison73 said: IMy angst with him has more to do withe fact hes a puppet for his political handlers agenda and then acts like hes doing everyone a public service and is a champion for social justice. Expand This is clearly the new talking point out of Fargo. It's all a witch hunt never mind the strange coincidence how there is always something to be found. There is a lot that goes on behind the scenes, they aren't exactly shooting in the dark to find these things like some seem to think. A lot easier to blame the messenger than admit the are problems in your own house. Knowing all of this, especially when you've already put a target on your back, and then handling the situation like it was is quite mind-boggling. 2 Quote
bison73 Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 4:01 AM, jdub27 said: This is clearly the new talking point out of Fargo. It's all a witch hunt yet it's strange coincidence how there is always something to be found. There is a lot that goes on behind the scenes, this isn't exactly finding the needle in the haystack like some seem to think. A lot easier to blame the messenger than admit the are problems in your own house. Expand The messenger was the politicos and portly was the hatchet man. If you think portly is a new talking point you havent been paying attention. LOL Not to mention there were other forces at work. But as I said before---DB did this one himself. After he told the SBOHE what was going on he should have just told the public the same or shut up and ride it out. Because when the information came out it showed NDSU really wasnt the bad guy in this whole thing. They just stepped in it badly with their terrible explanation-presser. Then it went down hill from there. Whats bad is there was a simple fix and they just kept making it worse. 1 Quote
Herd Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 Brescani and Larson put a poor media policy in place, saw the error and corrected it within 48-72 hours. I don't really see why anything else should matter. Brescsni and Larson fixed the policy. i really don't care about the witch-hunt from the fat bastard. If you do, I'm happy for you. What he knew, what he thought . . . Who cares, the policy was correctly fixed. 3 Quote
bison73 Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 4:46 AM, Herd said: Brescani and Larson put a poor media policy in place, saw the error and corrected it within 48-72 hours. I don't really see why anything else should matter. Brescsni and Larson fixed the policy. i really don't care about the witch-hunt from the fat bastard. If you do, I'm happy for you. What he knew, what he thought . . . Who cares, the policy was correctly fixed. Expand I agree but there are those that want their pound of flesh. Quote
homer Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 4:46 AM, Herd said: Brescani and Larson put a poor media policy in place, saw the error and corrected it within 48-72 hours. I don't really see why anything else should matter. Brescsni and Larson fixed the policy. i really don't care about the witch-hunt from the fat bastard. If you do, I'm happy for you. What he knew, what he thought . . . Who cares, the policy was correctly fixed. Expand According to Brescanni Larsen put a poor media deal in place and Brescanni fixed it in 48-72 hours. Did I miss something? 4 Quote
UND1983 Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 4:46 AM, Herd said: Brescani and Larson put a poor media policy in place, saw the error and corrected it within 48-72 hours. I don't really see why anything else should matter. Brescsni and Larson fixed the policy. i really don't care about the witch-hunt from the fat bastard. If you do, I'm happy for you. What he knew, what he thought . . . Who cares, the policy was correctly fixed. Expand Are you serious, that's all you took from the article? Nothing about DB lying to everyone on purpose...see that part? DB basically called you and every NDSU fan "beneath him" and not worthy of a response. Starting to think those sheep out on 19th are symbolic. 1 Quote
Herd Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 10:49 AM, UND1983 said: Are you serious, that's all you took from the article? Nothing about DB lying to everyone on purpose...see that part? DB basically called you and every NDSU fan "beneath him" and not worthy of a response. Starting to think those sheep out on 19th are symbolic. Expand There may have been parts of the media policy that he didn't fully understand. Who are we to say. He certainly didn't know what the reaction would be, and fixed it appropriately. Using an open records law to look at text messages is a chicken !@#$ action of a idiot with a ill advised Vandetta. The fact that he went to that level is uglier than anything that Brescani might have done. You can thank God they didnt look at your recent Presidents texts over the years, or the other guy they just forced out for all the conduct with giving raises and taking trips. Where Ports texts on that guy? I guess they just pick and choose the school to sttack. Disgusting chicken !@#$ action. 2 Quote
Popular Post UND1983 Posted August 8, 2016 Popular Post Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 11:23 AM, Herd said: There may have been parts of the media policy that he didn't fully understand. Who are we to say. He certainly didn't know what the reaction would be, and fixed it appropriately. Using an open records law to look at text messages is a chicken !@#$ action of a idiot with a ill advised Vandetta. The fact that he went to that level is uglier than anything that Brescani might have done. You can thank God they didnt look at your recent Presidents texts over the years, or the other guy they just forced out for all the conduct with giving raises and taking trips. Where Ports texts on that guy? I guess they just pick and choose the school to sttack. Disgusting chicken !@#$ action. Expand Oh, so its Port's fault that DB lied to everyone? Everything he wrote was 100% backed up by evidence. Something that Tiny Tony demands at his site. Shoot The Messenger. 8 Quote
GeauxSioux Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 4:46 AM, Herd said: Brescani and Larson put a poor media policy in place, saw the error and corrected it within 48-72 hours. I don't really see why anything else should matter. Brescsni and Larson fixed the policy. i really don't care about the witch-hunt from the fat bastard. If you do, I'm happy for you. What he knew, what he thought . . . Who cares, the policy was correctly fixed. Expand Can we get the man's last name right. It is Larsen, not Larson. Those of us who spell our name correctly don't want to be associated in this mess. Quote
homer Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 11:23 AM, Herd said: There may have been parts of the media policy that he didn't fully understand. Who are we to say. He certainly didn't know what the reaction would be, and fixed it appropriately. Using an open records law to look at text messages is a chicken !@#$ action of a idiot with a ill advised Vandetta. The fact that he went to that level is uglier than anything that Brescani might have done. You can thank God they didnt look at your recent Presidents texts over the years, or the other guy they just forced out for all the conduct with giving raises and taking trips. Where Ports texts on that guy? I guess they just pick and choose the school to sttack. Disgusting chicken !@#$ action. Expand And here comes the "bring UND" into the story. Getting pretty predictable in Fargo. This mess is in your leadership only. If he would have been truthful at the start this would have blown over quickly. What else has he been lying about? Quote
Matt Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 1:36 AM, bang said: Oh boy, I didn't think this would turn into a teenage girls self esteem building class. Bison 73, you need to make three positive comments about Rob Port's physical features before you post here again. Sorry, but Port with his writings and investigative work has opened himself up for ridicule. It's part of his job. If he's going to ruin people's careers with his opinions and fact findings. Being called fat should be least of his worries. Expand I'll stick with a reasoned argument every time. Quote
Herd Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/7/2016 at 2:03 PM, homer said: Lying to the press and throwing your AD under the bus for a decision you agreed with aren't good progress towards improving "communication and teamwork". Also laugh at FU fans who feel Port is on a witch hunt. He really didn't even have to work for this story as it pretty much wrote itself. Expand The truth is they thought they were putting right policy actions in place, but they were wrong and corrected it within 3 days. No committees, polls or taxpayer dollars affected. What he knew or didn't know should not be if consequence, unless you are on a witch hunt. Thanks God they don't goto the texts for the leaders in corporate America on a daily basis, when poor initial decision are made and corrected. Pretty stupid situation. Quote
homer Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 12:26 PM, Herd said: The truth is they thought they were putting right policy actions in place, but they were wrong and corrected it within 3 days. No committees, polls or taxpayer dollars affected. What he knew or didn't know should not be if consequence, unless you are on a witch hunt. Thanks God they don't goto the texts for the leaders in corporate America on a daily basis, when poor initial decision are made and corrected. Pretty stupid situation. Expand He got caught not being honest. Whatever the medias reason for looking, they found exactly what everyone knew was going to be there. No one else's fault but NDSUs leadership. Quote
Siouxperman8 Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 12:26 PM, Herd said: The truth is they thought they were putting right policy actions in place, but they were wrong and corrected it within 3 days. No committees, polls or taxpayer dollars affected. What he knew or didn't know should not be if consequence, unless you are on a witch hunt. Thanks God they don't goto the texts for the leaders in corporate America on a daily basis, when poor initial decision are made and corrected. Pretty stupid situation. Expand What was found was a total lack of integrity by Bresciani. The media policy was just the trigger. He was caught lying and throwing a subordinate under the bus to save his own arse. Not the kind of person that most people would want running their school or company. Quote
Herd Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 12:29 PM, homer said: He got caught not being honest. Whatever the medias reason for looking, they found exactly what everyone knew was going to be there. No one else's fault but NDSUs leadership. Expand Brescani provided a narrative to explain the poor decision that was made, and to correct it. It's similar to the narrative that you get from CEO's and HR folks in corporate America on a daily basis, except we don't have access to their email and text messages. Should someone get all the detail on Ports driving record and DUI and publish the detail on his actions? As a university system reporter, he should probably be subject to open records on his worst moments. 4 Quote
GeauxSioux Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 12:37 PM, Herd said: Brescani provided a narrative to explain the poor decision that was made, and to correct it. It's similar to the narrative that you get from CEO's and HR folks in corporate America on a daily basis, except we don't have access to their email and text messages. Should someone get all the detail on Ports driving record and DUI and publish the detail or his actions? Expand He came out publically and said he didn't know the facts of the issue, which was a lie that became public from his texts. The AD fell on the sword to cover DB, saying that he erred in not bring these ideas forward. Per the texts they both lied. Quote President Dean Bresciani directed the athletics department to ditch the guidelines it issued Friday, July 29. He wasn’t been informed in advance of the guidelines, the university said. “I was profoundly disappointed when I learned the facts about this issue,” Bresciani said in a news release. “This is not the way NDSU treats local journalists and our many loyal fans who value the breadth of news coverage NDSU enjoys. As the state’s land grant university, our commitment is to access and inclusion in all endeavors.” Athletic Director Matt Larsen also apologized in the release: “I erred in not bringing these ideas forward for the president’s review, and I regret the damage this has caused to the administration, institution and university community.” Expand Quote
UND-1 Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 12:37 PM, Herd said: Brescani provided a narrative to explain the poor decision that was made, and to correct it. It's similar to the narrative that you get from CEO's and HR folks in corporate America on a daily basis, except we don't have access to their email and text messages. Should someone get all the detail on Ports driving record and DUI and publish the detail on his actions? As a university system reporter, he should probably be subject to open records on his worst moments. Expand So you are mad that Port found proof of how it really went down instead of letting DB throw people under the bus and issue a fake apology. Got it. 4 Quote
homer Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 12:37 PM, Herd said: Brescani provided a narrative to explain the poor decision that was made, and to correct it. It's similar to the narrative that you get from CEO's and HR folks in corporate America on a daily basis, except we don't have access to their email and text messages. Should someone get all the detail on Ports driving record and DUI and publish the detail on his actions? As a university system reporter, he should probably be subject to open records on his worst moments. Expand Just because others may be doing it doesn't make it right. And back to your earlier comment about past UND leadership, not many on here liked or trusted the guy your questioning so not many will go to bat for him. Funny thing is though Port has it out for UND as well. You letting the anger of Brescanni getting caught in his lie shape your narrative that Port is some anti-FU guy. Quote
Teeder11 Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 12:56 PM, homer said: Just because others may be doing it doesn't make it right. And back to your earlier comment about past UND leadership, not many on here liked or trusted the guy your questioning so not many will go to bat for him. Funny thing is though Port has it out for UND as well. You letting the anger of Brescanni getting caught in his lie shape your narrative that Port is some anti-FU guy. Expand True. Rob is equally anti-UND as much as he is anti-NDSU. And if anyone sees it differently, they are viewing things through a skewed prism. Basically, he's anti- public higher ed. He's made no bones about it. I get just as miffed when he goes after UND on stuff I feel is just as petty. But the point his we've taken our shots (many times deserved) and we will have our day in the Port "spotlight" again someday. Also, the corporate world analogies from our friends to the south are off the mark, in this case, because the corporate world is, well, private, and largely does not use public money to operate. When you take public money, there should be scrutiny involved --text messages included. If you don't like it. Go find a private sector job! Quote
jdub27 Posted August 8, 2016 Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/8/2016 at 4:37 AM, bison73 said: The messenger was the politicos and portly was the hatchet man. If you think portly is a new talking point you havent been paying attention. LOL Not to mention there were other forces at work. Expand You are correct, blaming others for the issues caused by their leadership has been a calling card of the Fargo faithful for for quite a while now. My mistake. On 8/8/2016 at 4:46 AM, Herd said: Brescani and Larson put a poor media policy in place, saw the error and corrected it within 48-72 hours. I don't really see why anything else should matter. Brescsni and Larson fixed the policy. i really don't care about the witch-hunt from the fat bastard. If you do, I'm happy for you. What he knew, what he thought . . . Who cares, the policy was correctly fixed. Expand JJ and ML put in a bunch of restrictions after the fact to spite FCC. They only corrected it after they underestimated the backlash their pettiness caused. FCC requested all the bids to publish them and NDSU still hasn't released them. Also interesting that JJ would have benefitted from those restrictions he put in place as a host a radio show on the 1660... 1 Quote
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