siouxforce19 Posted June 20, 2016 Posted June 20, 2016 On 6/20/2016 at 10:14 PM, siouxkid12 said: Toews gives as much love to UND as Parise does. Whatever happened to David (I've only heard rumors) were David's issues and his issues alone. UND doesn't hand out roster spots to players, they are earned and David wasn't as good as he thought he was. Expand I think some people feel that Toews should have brought the Cup to UND, therefore is not as "loyal." I'm not one of those people. You just didnt hear much out of Toews because he wasn't active on social media until recently. Not gonna touch the issue with his bro, though. I also heard the rumors. Quote
burd Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 On 6/20/2016 at 9:13 PM, Fetch said: My take on Toews was he was really young & Dumb about most everything but Hockey when he was here Expand Not at all what I heard. A young, but very mature and focused man. That's precisely why he was captain of an NHL team at such a young age. Quote
Fetch Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 The pic of him shooting beers made him look normal for a 19 or 20 yr old Quote
Blackheart Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 On 6/20/2016 at 11:21 PM, siouxforce19 said: I think some people feel that Toews should have brought the Cup to UND, therefore is not as "loyal." I'm not one of those people. You just didnt hear much out of Toews because he wasn't active on social media until recently. Not gonna touch the issue with his bro, though. I also heard the rumors. Expand Whether he's miffed at UND or not; 3 Cups won but no trips to Grand Forks...just sayin'. Quote
siouxkid12 Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 On 6/21/2016 at 3:19 AM, Blackheart said: Whether he's miffed at UND or not; 3 Cups won but no trips to Grand Forks...just sayin'. Expand Just because a UND alum wins the cup, does not mean they have to bring it back to GF. Not every player who has won it has brought it back. 4 Quote
burd Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 On 6/21/2016 at 3:19 AM, Blackheart said: Whether he's miffed at UND or not; 3 Cups won but no trips to Grand Forks...just sayin'. Expand I liked what I saw of what Toews did with the cup the last time had it. He's a class act. He's also been very complimentary of the time he spent at UND and how his game grew there. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 It's not like he brought the cup to Fargo or Minneapolis. Quote
Blackheart Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 On 6/21/2016 at 5:02 AM, siouxkid12 said: Just because a UND alum wins the cup, does not mean they have to bring it back to GF. Not every player who has won it has brought it back. Expand True...but its sweet when they do. Quote
Siouxperfan7 Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 Well, when Luke wins the Cup with the Blawkhawks, he will bring it back to GF!! Quote
siouxfan512 Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 On 6/21/2016 at 2:10 PM, Siouxperfan7 said: Well, when Luke wins the Cup with the Blawkhawks, he will bring it back to GF!! Expand I think Schmaltz would too. Quote
siouxfan512 Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 On 6/20/2016 at 10:14 PM, siouxkid12 said: Toews gives as much love to UND as Parise does. Whatever happened to David (I've only heard rumors) were David's issues and his issues alone. UND doesn't hand out roster spots to players, they are earned and David wasn't as good as he thought he was. Expand No clue, and I certainly am not going to criticize how UND handles its hockey player from a playing time or roster perspective. I was just speculating in response to some other comments. David certainly had opportunities to play and didn't exactly do a ton with it. To be fair, there may have been some lofty expectations (particularly from fans) purely because of his last name and the success his brother had. Nevertheless, I don't care who you are, how high of draft pick you are, or what you have done in the past, you spot on the roster needs to be based on your effort, motivation, and current production (not necessarily measured by points either). 3 Quote
siouxkid12 Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 On 6/21/2016 at 1:07 PM, Blackheart said: True...but its sweet when they do. Expand It sure is nice when they do bring it back to GF but we as fans need to realize that these guys only played at UND for a short time. It's one thing if they bring it to Vegas and just walk around with it but if they choose to bring it back to their hometown and show it off to the local children's hospital/ youth sports teams, I won't criticize them for that. 2 Quote
siouxkid12 Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 On 6/21/2016 at 2:10 PM, Siouxperfan7 said: Well, when Luke wins the Cup with the Blawkhawks, he will bring it back to GF!! Expand 1. He needs to make the roster. 2. The Blackhawks need to win it. 3. Of course he would, he is from GF. Quote
tho0505 Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 Who cares if they don't bring the cup back to UND. It doesn't mean that they aren't loyal or faithful to UND anymore. Toews played 2 years of his hockey life here, very little compared to the rest of his life. 4 Quote
Siouxperfan7 Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 On 6/21/2016 at 3:22 PM, tho0505 said: Who cares if they don't bring the cup back to UND. It doesn't mean that they aren't loyal or faithful to UND anymore. Toews played 2 years of his hockey life here, very little compared to the rest of his life. Expand Which brings up another interesting point. We read all the time how former players sign these big contracts. Curious to see how loyal they are in the area of donating back to the University that gave them the opportunity to better their career. Now I am not talking about guys like Nick who get their rookie deal. I'm talking about the Toews or Parise's out there that sign tens of million dollar contacts. Is that something that is public info? Or can a guy like Parise make an anonymous donation to the athletic department (specifically hockey)? Quote
Popular Post tho0505 Posted June 21, 2016 Popular Post Posted June 21, 2016 On 6/21/2016 at 3:34 PM, Siouxperfan7 said: Which brings up another interesting point. We read all the time how former players sign these big contracts. Curious to see how loyal they are in the area of donating back to the University that gave them the opportunity to better their career. Now I am not talking about guys like Nick who get their rookie deal. I'm talking about the Toews or Parise's out there that sign tens of million dollar contacts. Is that something that is public info? Or can a guy like Parise make an anonymous donation to the athletic department (specifically hockey)? Expand Again who cares? They don't owe UND or us anything. Toews / Parise would have been successful ANYWHERE they went. Let's not kid ourselves, UND is doesn't have a monopoly on developing players. Sure, in my opinion, it's the best college hockey route, but let's not act like former players owe UND or us as fans anything except continued verbal support. 7 1 Quote
UNDBIZ Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 On 6/21/2016 at 3:47 PM, tho0505 said: Again who cares? They don't owe UND or us anything. Toews / Parise would have been successful ANYWHERE they went. Let's not kid ourselves, UND is doesn't have a monopoly on developing players. Sure, in my opinion, it's the best college hockey route, but let's not act like former players owe UND or us as fans anything except continued verbal support. Expand Neither does anyone else, technically, but people choose to give back/pay forward in recognition of the services and life impact UND provided. No need to get so upset and defensive, he was just asking a question. To @Siouxperfan7's question, names of donors and donation amounts are not public info, unless the donor chooses to allow the university to publicize it. 2 Quote
siouxkid12 Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 On 6/21/2016 at 3:52 PM, UNDBIZ said: Neither does anyone else, technically, but people choose to give back/pay forward in recognition of the services and life impact UND provided. No need to get so upset and defensive, he was just asking a question. To @Siouxperfan7's question, names of donors and donation amounts are not public info, unless the donor chooses to allow the university to publicize it. Expand I believe Matt Greene has a scholarship in his name... Quote
sprig Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 On 6/21/2016 at 4:52 PM, siouxkid12 said: I believe Matt Greene has a scholarship in his name... Expand He does. Marc Chorney is on the wall at the Ralph as well. One of two 500K to 1M endowments Quote
tho0505 Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 On 6/21/2016 at 3:52 PM, UNDBIZ said: Neither does anyone else, technically, but people choose to give back/pay forward in recognition of the services and life impact UND provided. No need to get so upset and defensive, he was just asking a question. To @Siouxperfan7's question, names of donors and donation amounts are not public info, unless the donor chooses to allow the university to publicize it. Expand I'm not upset or defensive at all. Just stating my thoughts. When players and alumni give back financially or just with moral support, either way, it doesn't matter. My whole point is that fans sometimes act like former players should be thanking the university forever and always for everything good that happens to them. It's just not true, especially with top end talent, we are fortunate that they chose/choose UND for 2-3 years of their development. If they win the cup and decide to spend the day on a mountain top or on a lazy river with family, instead of bringing it to Grand Forks, good for them. Let's not take that as an offensive toward the program, Grand Forks, or their own Sioux legacy. Quote
Cratter Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 I believe some here have said Toews donated money toward the REA locker room renovations. Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 On 6/21/2016 at 3:47 PM, tho0505 said: Again who cares? They don't owe UND or us anything. Toews / Parise would have been successful ANYWHERE they went. Let's not kid ourselves, UND is doesn't have a monopoly on developing players. Sure, in my opinion, it's the best college hockey route, but let's not act like former players owe UND or us as fans anything except continued verbal support. Expand I bet London gets huge donations from their alums, right UNDBIZ? Quote
burd Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 It's a good thing Frenchy's closed. Those post grad donations were tough on my budget. Quote
UNDBIZ Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 On 6/21/2016 at 8:21 PM, stoneySIOUX said: I bet London gets huge donations from their alums, right UNDBIZ? Expand As a for profit business that is heavily subsidized by the NHL, probably not. Quote
stoneySIOUX Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 On 6/21/2016 at 8:40 PM, UNDBIZ said: As a for profit business that is heavily subsidized by the NHL, probably not. Expand Thanks for killing my joke with actual knowledge. 2 Quote
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