fightingsioux4life Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 And UND and the SBOHE isn't a democracy.No, but at least they aren't giving jobs to the highest bidder. Which is what you suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassB Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) Stakeholder paying to pick is preferable to paying a consultant to pick, not ideal, but preferable Edited November 10, 2015 by ClassB I mixed up my paying stakeholder and stakeholder paying originally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Paying a stakeholder to pick is preferable to paying a consultant to pick, not ideal, but preferableThey are both not preferable. They are both unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) No, but at least they aren't giving jobs to the highest bidder. Which is what you suggested.But that how it worked for Engelstad, and no one is bitching about the Brien logo. That's how it works at most of the power programs. Nike's gifts to Oregon have strings attached such as use of an array of bizarre Nike uniforms. Edited November 10, 2015 by SiouxVolley 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 I'm a white, property-owning male. How many votes does that get me? I'm exaggerating to make a point, but that's legitimately what it sounds like on here right now. it depends. How big is your house? Any farmland? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 But that how it worked for Engelstad, and no one is bitching about the Brien logo. That's how it works at most of the power programs. Nike's gifts to Oregon have strings attached such as use of an array of bizarre Nike uniforms.Was Ralph Engelstad ever appointed President of UND? Or the leader of the UND Alumni Association? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obborg Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 ...but our time for being in charge is in the past.Best phrase posted here today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 As far as UND choosing to use the Internet as the only way to vote:According to the PEW Research center 41% of those age 65 or old do not use the internet at all, 53% do not have broadband access at home, and 23% do not use cell phones.Seem like someone inside should have thought about an equitable voting system - and no expecting everyone to have Internet access should not be assumed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obborg Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 As far as UND choosing to choose the Internet as the only way to vote:According to the PEW Research center 41% of those age 65 or old do not use the internet at all, 53% do not have broadband access at home, and 23% do not use cell phones.Seem like someone inside should have thought about an equitable voting system - and no expecting everyone to have Internet access should not be assumed. And that's not the only reason why online voting is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 As far as UND choosing to use the Internet as the only way to vote:According to the PEW Research center 41% of those age 65 or old do not use the internet at all, 53% do not have broadband access at home, and 23% do not use cell phones.Seem like someone inside should have thought about an equitable voting system - and no expecting everyone to have Internet access should not be assumed. those without internet were given other options- I don't recall how it was planned, but accommodations were made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 Never change siouxsports.com... never change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 This won't be popular... I personally think the University is for the students and (at least in hindsight) wouldn't be particularly bothered if only students had been allowed to choose the new nickname; alums and friends could have kept following the teams or moved on as they saw fit, but our time for being in charge is in the past.Of course, that doesn't fit with the economic reality of schools needing to engage friends and alums for tickets and donations, so instead we have a voting pool in which current students are actually greatly outnumbered by other stakeholders. It will be hard to complain if the students really do have a different preference than the rest of the constituents, but are sufficiently more engaged such that they manage to propel it to victory.You might want to tell all the empty seats at sporting events that the University is for students. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) Was Ralph Engelstad ever appointed President of UND? Or the leader of the UND Alumni Association? No.You are conflating arguments again. Engelstad had power and strings with his donation. Are you disagreeing with that?T Boone Pickens has Oklahoma St's President at his beck and call. So does Phil Knight at Oregon. Edited November 10, 2015 by SiouxVolley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 If the students want FH, I'm actually okay with it. I agree that the school is for the students. I'll vote for RR, and let the chips fall where they may. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericpnelson Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 it depends. How big is your house? Any farmland? What about my donkey? That's double, right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 What about my donkey? That's double, right? it depends on how old the donkey is. If it's still learnin', one vote. Old donkeys get two. At least I think that was Class B's general idea. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 those without internet were given other options- I don't recall how it was planned, but accommodations were made.You may be right so I'd love to know who those "other options" were accounted for and were able to meet the timelines given for voting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueSioux2000 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 We youngins was just born at the wrong time, ya see? I've gotta earn my vote! Ain't nobody got time for that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 You may be right so I'd love to know who those "other options" were accounted for and were able to meet the timelines given for voting. yeah I have no idea, I just recall in the first announcement about the first vote they made reference to somehow accommodating people that did not have email Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 We youngins was just born at the wrong time, ya see? I've gotta earn my vote! Ain't nobody got time for thatamen! Ya gotta learn em, son! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 yeah I have no idea, I just recall in the first announcement about the first vote they made reference to somehow accommodating people that did not have emailAs far as I've read the only votes have been online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 As far as UND choosing to use the Internet as the only way to vote:According to the PEW Research center 41% of those age 65 or old do not use the internet at all, 53% do not have broadband access at home, and 23% do not use cell phones.Seem like someone inside should have thought about an equitable voting system - and no expecting everyone to have Internet access should not be assumed. My parents, in their 80s and Champion Club members, don't have a clue about the internet. They have an IPAD and WiFi set up by their grandkids, but don't have a clue how to do anything on the internet, like pay bills. They still run to Hugo's to pay bills as they save on postage. They did not vote as UND effectively disenfranchised them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 You don't need to be the president if you are Geppetto and the president is your personal Pinocchio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 (edited) Volley: Raid your parents' email account (assuming) and vote for them. Edited November 10, 2015 by The Sicatoka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 10, 2015 Share Posted November 10, 2015 We youngins was just born at the wrong time, ya see? I've gotta earn my vote! Ain't nobody got time for thatNow you are sounding like a NDSU grad. Please stop........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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