UND1981 Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 3 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said: Anything less than what NDSU football has accomplished will not garner any respect from Bison fans. UND could win an FCS NAtional Championship and the response of Bison fans would be "Win 3 (or maybe 4) more and get back to me!! Yes it's true, respect must be earned. but it will never be given by many Bison fans because of their pride. If Bison keep winning these championships, will they will move up to FBS (or NCAA require them to move up) before we are good enough to beat them? Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 2 minutes ago, UND1981 said: If Bison keep winning these championships, will they will move up to FBS (or NCAA require them to move up) before we are good enough to beat them? If they do move up, they won't be an annual fixture in the FBS College Football Playoff, no matter what their delusional fan base thinks. They'll be in a low-level conference (think Sun Belt, MAAC) and their reward for winning the conference would be a lower-level bowl game in December on a weekday on ESPN that very few people care about. If they are smart, they'll stick with FCS. Quote
Siouxperfan7 Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 5 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: If they do move up, they won't be an annual fixture in the FBS College Football Playoff, no matter what their delusional fan base thinks. They'll be in a low-level conference (think Sun Belt, MAAC) and their reward for winning the conference would be a lower-level bowl game in December on a weekday on ESPN that very few people care about. If they are smart, they'll stick with FCS. #butgameday #butESPNloveus #butBig12invite 2 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 1 minute ago, Siouxperfan7 said: #butgameday #butESPNloveus #butBig12invite The Big 12 is a shell of its former self anyway. But I seriously doubt they would accept a school from North Dakota. Quote
dlsiouxfan Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 14 minutes ago, UND1981 said: If Bison keep winning these championships, will they will move up to FBS (or NCAA require them to move up) before we are good enough to beat them? Let's be honest, NDSU cannot even consider FBS because of their blatant disregard for Title IX compliance. A move to FBS would draw even more scrutiny towards an area that they are seriously hoping no one will ever take a serious look at. 1 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 18 hours ago, North Dakota said: You can't seriously believe we would have beat Richmond. They would have shreded our pass defense just as NDSU did in week 3. Let's be honest here we were no where close to being a top 10 team even at the end of the season. And NDSU would have dominated us just like Richmond. Our team just isn't at that level yet. Hopefully we take another step forward next year but let's not make it out to be something it wasn't this year. Too much pessimism within our own fanbase. UND ended the season on a three game win streak. I would have liked to see them keep playing and not get shafted by one of the most subjective processes in the NCAA. 2 Quote
UND1981 Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 If the Bison keep this championship streak alive, anyone fair to guess what the NCAA does (if anything) if the streak reaches 6 or 7 in the next 1-2 years? Quote
Matt Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 4 minutes ago, UND1981 said: If the Bison keep this championship streak alive, anyone fair to guess what the NCAA does (if anything) if the streak reaches 6 or 7 in the next 1-2 years? Is there any evidence the NCAA would do anything? Looking at past dynasties I don't see the NCAA moving to dismantle it. Usually those things (see scholarship reduction) come from the membership. Quote
Shawn-O Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 16 minutes ago, UND1981 said: If the Bison keep this championship streak alive, anyone fair to guess what the NCAA does (if anything) if the streak reaches 6 or 7 in the next 1-2 years? Well they didn't do anything about UCLA basketball in the 60's and 70's. They aren't doing anything about Mount Union winning it 12 times in 23 seasons. What should they be even considering? Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 12 minutes ago, Shawn-O said: Well they didn't do anything about UCLA basketball in the 60's and 70's. They aren't doing anything about Mount Union winning it 12 times in 23 seasons. What should they be even considering? The law of averages will do its work in time. Quote
North Dakota Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 44 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Too much pessimism within our own fanbase. UND ended the season on a three game win streak. I would have liked to see them keep playing and not get shafted by one of the most subjective processes in the NCAA. Not pessimism. Realism. Did you see what they did to Montana, UNI and Richmond? And you somehow think we would have fared better?? Get real. Quote
North Dakota Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 I think Jacksonville State has a real shot at knocking them off. Will need to capitalize on their opportunities and not make mistakes but they have a team that can do it. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 2 minutes ago, North Dakota said: Not pessimism. Realism. Did you see what they did to Montana, UNI and Richmond? And you somehow think we would have fared better?? Get real. In a couple of years, we'll have ourselves a championship contending team in Grand Forks. And I am not talking about just Big Sky championships either. Quote
North Dakota Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 Just now, fightingsioux4life said: In a couple of years, we'll have ourselves a championship contending team in Grand Forks. And I am not talking about just Big Sky championships either. I think so too! 1 Quote
homer Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 18 minutes ago, North Dakota said: Not pessimism. Realism. Did you see what they did to Montana, UNI and Richmond? And you somehow think we would have fared better?? Get real. Did it surprise when two of those teams had defenses who couldn't stop the run and offenses that relied heavily on making checks at the line of scrimmage? Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 43 minutes ago, North Dakota said: Not pessimism. Realism. Did you see what they did to Montana, UNI and Richmond? And you somehow think we would have fared better?? Get real. There's a fine line between those two. As just a disclaimer, UND athletics is benefited very little by those who watch from afar and say they "told you so". Fanatics, a.k.a. fans, do not promote realism, but rather push the department and the teams to exceed expectations. UND football would have very little support right now if they "stuck to the script" and shot for only external expectations (see "realistic" preseason polls). 2 Quote
UND1981 Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said: In a couple of years, we'll have ourselves a championship contending team in Grand Forks. And I am not talking about just Big Sky championships either. OK, Bison potentially win #5 and #6 before we knock them off to end the streak. Quote
Shawn-O Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 8 minutes ago, UND1981 said: OK, Bison potentially win #5 and #6 before we knock them off to end the streak. Sounds like a plan. Let's take a page out of Roebuck's book and rattle off about 4 or 5 of our own. 1 Quote
tjamz Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 On 12/20/2015 at 10:39 PM, gsiouxo said: This is the reason I would love to see the Bison lose….the ARROGANT fan/fans like this piece of work (nd1sufan)…..home and home with Weber but not UND….hope Jacksonville can pull their arrogant noses out of the air so they don't drown if it rains!!!! For the record, I've been in favor of never playing UND again unless it's in the playoffs. I really don't think it is good for either school as it brings out the worst in most fans. As for why we did with Weber, we had an opening in our schedule last season and this season. Weber was one of a few schools that we could do a home and home with in those years that had the right dates open. I'm fairly certain that IF those dates were open at both UND & NDSU we may have seen a home and home scenario play out there as well. The stars didn't align so it didn't happen. The only way I want to renew this "rivalry" is if you join our conference. 7 Quote
tjamz Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 On 12/20/2015 at 11:09 PM, darell1976 said: Don't forget the h/h they just signed with Eastern Washington. Oh wait we aren't at their (NDSU's) level to quote president Dean B. But Weber and EWU are? Both teams had 6-5 records. I think we have reached that level Dean, just say it "we (NDSU) are scared to play UND in Grand Forks)." It's okay we understood when "we will play anyone anywhere" meant we will play anyone, anywhere except Grand Forks. Now that I said that, the floodgates will open and the BV trolls will come rushing in, because when going to Frisco the first stop on the trip is no other than siouxsports.com That should tell you what NDSU thinks about UND. And what does it say about UND that they accepted this offer? THAT is the real question. 1 Quote
UND1983 Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 5 minutes ago, tjamz said: For the record, I've been in favor of never playing UND again unless it's in the playoffs. I really don't think it is good for either school as it brings out the worst in most fans. As for why we did with Weber, we had an opening in our schedule last season and this season. Weber was one of a few schools that we could do a home and home with in those years that had the right dates open. I'm fairly certain that IF those dates were open at both UND & NDSU we may have seen a home and home scenario play out there as well. The stars didn't align so it didn't happen. The only way I want to renew this "rivalry" is if you join our conference. There were 0 reported incidents and by all accounts everybody had a great time at the UND and NDSU game. So much for that theory. I remember all the gear mongering coming out of your camp before the game. 2 Quote
geaux_sioux Posted December 21, 2015 Author Posted December 21, 2015 2 minutes ago, UND1983 said: There were 0 reported incidents and by all accounts everybody had a great time at the UND and NDSU game. So much for that theory. I remember all the gear mongering coming out of your camp before the game. Yea, I only encountered one guy who was being an ass and he's just an ass. Had nothing to do with UND vs NDSU. Quote
FSSD Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 10 hours ago, Bison06 said: UND Football 2015. The only team in the FCS to have injuries at key positions. Won't even address the dirty play issue, it's been beaten to death. All teams have injuries, my only problem is how the injury occurred and there was no need for it!!! - that is all.. Quote
Bison06 Posted December 21, 2015 Posted December 21, 2015 1 minute ago, FSSD said: All teams have injuries, my only problem is how the injury occurred and there was no need for it!!! - that is all.. So if that same injury had occurred during a play you consider to be not a cheap shot it would've affected UND's season less? Quote
FSSD Posted December 22, 2015 Posted December 22, 2015 2 minutes ago, Bison06 said: So if that same injury had occurred during a play you consider to be not a cheap shot it would've affected UND's season less? No, it would have same impact. How it occurred - dirty/needless play on the part of a NDSU player. Injury should have never happen. Quote
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