bison73 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 14 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Not my end game. One person doesn't speak for all. I just wondered how 12-15 reporters all decided to not report it, that's all. To me I dont care. When I first heard about it I didnt care if it was going to be reported on the news or not as I knew it would make it there sooner or later. My firsts thoughts were WTF were you thinking? Are there really 12-15 reporters in Fargo????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperman8 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Bison06 said: The point doesn’t change. Answer this question directly: Is it the job of local media to provide a competitive advantage to the opponent? I will answer the question. It is not the job of local media to provide a competitive advantage to the opponent. It is also not the job to protect the team you cover by holding something back that might help an opponent. I know Kolpack a little bit and Fargo sportswriters are expected to hold back information at times to protect SU football. I believe it is their job to report what they know in a timely manner unless it was told to them off the record. I didn't watch any of the game but doubt it would have had an impact if it had revealed. I just think it is a sad commentary on Fargo reporters in general. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, UND1983 said: This wasn't an injury. It was a NCAA testing failure. "Insider info"....lol What's also funny is that every single reporter chose to not report it. That's either mandated by NDSU or collusion amongst themselves. Funny how we knew about all the FBS suspensions before the semifinals and finals that were for the exact same thing. Just goes to show you that FBS is just bigger news than the FCS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Sioux95 said: So, taking PEDs and playing in a semi final game isn't cheating as long as you pay the penalty when you get caught? If it wasn't cheating, there wouldn't be a penalty. By your reasoning, it isn't cheating if you don't get caught. I think I learned about this in grade school or Sunday school. Two wrongs do not equal a right. The media’s ability to truthfully and factually report has been in question for many years. Sad The whole thing does not pass the smell test to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Bison06 said: You guys are hilarious. I guess the level of outrage around here is completely dependent on whose ox is being gored. Keep your holier than thou attitude for when UND’s player go through their next failed test, we both know it’s just a matter of time for every team. You just can’t seem to grasp the point. Not surprising. If you’re content with another title with another asterisk, that’s fine. The rest of FCS knows what goes on in Fargo even if you are too ignorant to realize it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Siouxphan27 said: You just can’t seem to grasp the point. Not surprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 58 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said: You just can’t seem to grasp the point. Not surprising. If you’re content with another title with another asterisk, that’s fine. The rest of FCS knows what goes on in Fargo even if you are too ignorant to realize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxBoys Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 8 hours ago, Bison06 said: I’m not saying anything, I have zero insider info. Reporting is a choice, which stories you decide to make important is subjective at all levels of reporting. It isn’t as if the media didn’t have a million other stories to run that are arguably just as interesting to their readers. You sincerely think it’s the job of the media to objectively report? It hasn’t been that way in 50+ years if it was ever that way. They didn’t cover something up, they just chose not to run it as a story until after the game. I don’t see the scandal here. "They didn't cover something up, they just chose to cover something up" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 8 hours ago, Siouxphan27 said: You just can’t seem to grasp the point. Not surprising. If you’re content with another title with another asterisk, that’s fine. The rest of FCS knows what goes on in Fargo even if you are too ignorant to realize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fry Bread Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 With this type of discussion I hope we all remember we are talking about a young person that made a mistake. Maybe it matters if it was intentional or not. I don’t know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 You know you are right and he missed a chance of a lifetime.... someone was paid to know if the PED was on the list. This mama bear would be ugly, like never ugly before, if that was one of my boys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Fry Bread said: With this type of discussion I hope we all remember we are talking about a young person that made a mistake. Maybe it matters if it was intentional or not. I don’t know? More accurately, let’s remember his coach made the ‘mistake’ and told him it was safe to take it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choyt3 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Having young kids myself, I’d like to hear what the actual product was that he took. I imagine more than this one player on NDSU’s roster changed their regimen after this random, positive test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fry Bread Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 On 1/5/2019 at 11:56 AM, geaux_sioux said: I’m not mad, just disappointed. Ouch. I’m still feeling the pain a week later. Criticism from a mentor always stings. I vow to never let it happen again. Just kidding, kind of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fry Bread Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 1 hour ago, choyt3 said: Having young kids myself, I’d like to hear what the actual product was that he took. I imagine more than this one player on NDSU’s roster changed their regimen after this random, positive test. That is a worthy concern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxFan100 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Mama Sue said: You know you are right and he missed a chance of a lifetime.... someone was paid to know if the PED was on the list. This mama bear would be ugly, like never ugly before, if that was one of my boys. Don't ever want to get mama ugly and mad!!! Love ya Mama!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 59 minutes ago, SiouxFan100 said: Don't ever want to get mama ugly and mad!!! Love ya Mama!! I make some of my jady friends look like Pollyanna or Mother Theresa.... somebody failed this young man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 18 hours ago, Cratter said: Cheating: act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination. What part don't you understand that NDSU had cheated? NCAA punished him because he cheated. Duh! He previously played while taking performance enhancing drugs. I have hypothesized this for a long time. SU has a victory at any cost approach to football. Coaches providing stimulants......I am sure this was the 1st and only time and just a paperwork mistake, lmfao!! Part of me admires it. If no one else knows and you don't get caught.......fairly easy trade for National Titles. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 8 hours ago, Siouxphan27 said: More accurately, let’s remember his coach made the ‘mistake’ and told him it was safe to take it. That is nothing more than rumor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 3 hours ago, gundy1124 said: I have hypothesized this for a long time. SU has a victory at any cost approach to football. Coaches providing stimulants......I am sure this was the 1st and only time and just a paperwork mistake, lmfao!! Part of me admires it. If no one else knows and you don't get caught.......fairly easy trade for National Titles. Now coaches are providing stimulants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 33 minutes ago, bison73 said: Now coaches are providing stimulants? Don’t ever doubt it.... everyone is selling a non-FDA approved pill/powder/patch for fatigue or low energy or weight loss or lower your blood sugars. I have 5 friends doing it and making darn good money. I KNOW it is in sports.....wonder who was making the $$$ behind that sale to the kid who... not to belabor a point....lost his chance playing for a national title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, Mama Sue said: Don’t ever doubt it.... everyone is selling a non-FDA approved pill/powder/patch for fatigue or low energy or weight loss or lower your blood sugars. I have 5 friends doing it and making darn good money. I KNOW it is in sports.....wonder who was making the $$$ behind that sale to the kid who... not to belabor a point....lost his chance playing for a national title. Not saying its not in sports.I saw it first hand when I was at Iowa back in the 70s. Im questioning the accusation that a coach supplied it. You have 5 friends sell it? You might want to choose better friends considering your past postings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 This is for weight loss... not performance enhancing....I am sure you have friends and relatives selling these ? nutritional vitamin supplements too. And there is a down line of even more people selling so they get their product free. I wondered who got the $$ from the sale.... could be anyone. No accusation just wondering... A Shakespear quote could apply here,”Me thinks she Doty protest too much.” end of story for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 53 minutes ago, Mama Sue said: This is for weight loss... not performance enhancing....I am sure you have friends and relatives selling these ? nutritional vitamin supplements too. And there is a down line of even more people selling so they get their product free. I wondered who got the $$ from the sale.... could be anyone. No accusation just wondering... A Shakespear quote could apply here,”Me thinks she Doty protest too much.” end of story for me As usual your quote isnt appropriate to the situation. And no I dont have any friends or relatives selling that crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowHand Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Everyone here prepared to apologize if it comes out that its prescription adderral? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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