geaux_sioux Posted June 4, 2015 Author Share Posted June 4, 2015 I do too but at least it gives you a third party source to get all the points you can. I won't disagree but I believe there was a lot of chest thumping going on about how Massey's preseason strength of schedule came out. If you're going to claim that as accurate, then no reason to not follow the same logic for the score prediction. I don't think I was apart of that thumping. I don't put any weight to any pre season polls since they aren't accurate. Mid season is when all the polls and rankings are valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 I don't think I was apart of that thumping. I don't put any weight to any pre season polls since they aren't accurate. Mid season is when all the polls and rankings are valid. You weren't, it wasn't on this board nor did it involve UND, didn't mean to make it look like I was directly my comments at you. I was referring to NDSU folks who will claim the preseason SOS was accurate but then not give a 35 point spread because they are preseason numbers. I agree with you somewhat on polls and rankings, but I wouldn't necessarily call them accurate even at midseason. Voters aren't always that informed and computer numbers can be skewed, but they are more or less a shot in the dark at the beginning of the year and slowly get closer to accurate as the season goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkster Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Nothing out yet. Doubtful you'll see anything ahead of time either. However, Massey's ratings shows the "Most Likely" score at 38-3. No clue what his preseason stuff is based on, particularly for FCS. I'd show him that and take the 35 points all the way to the bank. FU fans are very vocal on how important computer rankings (Sagarin, Massey, etc) are when they are favorable to them, no reason they should trust them to help set a line. http://www.masseyratings.com/game.php?s0=279541&t0=North+Dakota&h=-1&s1=279541&t1=North+Dakota+State Wow, they only give us 1 chance out of 100 to win? I have the game circled as one of our loses, but I don't think it will be as bad as Massey predicts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Bison O will move the ball pretty well on everyone probably. Unless something major has changed in UND's offense, they will not move the ball well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Bison O will move the ball pretty well on everyone probably. Unless something major has changed in UND's offense, they will not move the ball well. Thanks for that, Nostradamus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Random question- My brother who is a NDSU fan wants to propose a bet with me on the upcoming game. Has anyone seen any predicted spread of this game? (or is it even out yet) ThanksTalked to a buddy of mine who is an ex Bison player. He was pretty confident in giving me 45 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Talked to a buddy of mine who is an ex Bison player. He was pretty confident in giving me 45 points. Take that for whatever he will go to. Call Gate City if you have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Talked to a buddy of mine who is an ex Bison player. He was pretty confident in giving me 45 points. My brother was talking big, even to the extent of calling UND d2. I then offered to agree to a 35 point spread, since he was so confident, and he would not take it. Figures lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 the ndac hasn't had to throw that much in the last few years bc of crockett...he's gone and i doubt his replacement is as good as him so maybe they will have to throw and if they do bubba and company are gonna blitz...and although wentz is fast he also a big target for our lb's to hit and hopefully hit hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 the ndac hasn't had to throw that much in the last few years bc of crockett...he's gone and i doubt his replacement is as good as him so maybe they will have to throw and if they do bubba and company are gonna blitz...and although wentz is fast he also a big target for our lb's to hit and hopefully hit hard They will still pound the rock. Theyll open up the passing game a bit as a luxury not a necessity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux94 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 My early prediction for the game is 31-13 NDSU. Hopefully after the first two games our offense will show something and give me some confidence that it will be closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 the ndac hasn't had to throw that much in the last few years bc of crockett...he's gone and i doubt his replacement is as good as him so maybe they will have to throw and if they do bubba and company are gonna blitz...and although wentz is fast he also a big target for our lb's to hit and hopefully hit hard Agree a lot with this. I think Wentz had a lot of time in the pocket last year to go through his reads and likely will again this year with their very good O-Line. UND will have to blitz and force him to make quick decisions. Seemed like he got happy feet when there was pressure (which wasn't often) and he has no issue taking off, which he is more than capable of doing. When he does, he has a tendency to try for an extra yard or two and doesn't secure the ball very well instead of sliding or going out of bounds. All that being said, they are pretty nit-picky and he'll be one of the best QB's UND sees this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Three months later, and I stand by my take from March: Random observations, for what they're worth: UND offense v. NDSU defense - NDSU's defense lost both starting safeties, three opening day linebackers, and the best DE in FCS. Their twos become the ones. <-- Are the threes ready to be the twos. - UND will start _______ at QB and _______ at RB. <-- Monster questions without answers today. - Will UND's offensive line be better than how they were playing at the end of 2014. <-- The answer to this is a big factor in how the game will be played. NDSU offense v. UND defense - How many will UND have to keep in the box to withstand the NDSU run game or will NDSU choose to forgo the run and attack a suspect UND secondary. Special Teams - NDSU will have a new primary kicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Three months later, and I stand by my take from March: Still a big question mark on the UND QB and RB situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Still a big question mark on the UND QB and RB situation. I honestly believe that Studsrud will be the guy week 1. Obviously if things don't go well for him, we have a more than capable backup with Bartels and even Molberg. But from what I am hearing, the coaches are pretty high on Studsrud after spring ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I honestly believe that Studsrud will be the guy week 1. Obviously if things don't go well for him, we have a more than capable backup with Bartels and even Molberg. But from what I am hearing, the coaches are pretty high on Studsrud after spring ball. In a way its a shame he burned up his redshirt last year but on the flip side he got gameday experience and got 2 wins including a win against a ranked team. I hope whoever the QB is they stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Hope Oliviera is working his tail off this summer, cuz he will need to play a big role this year. Probably will need to look at getting creative with Smith or Austin Gordon as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBR Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 This may be most readily answered by one of the ndsu people...does anyone have a good idea what the viewing options for the und/ndsu game will be, both television and webcast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBR Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 And while I'm at it, anybody know who does the Wyoming Cowboys football broadcasts? I wonder if there is any chance the the UW/UND game could be viewed outside of Wyoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnboyND7 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 This may be most readily answered by one of the ndsu people...does anyone have a good idea what the viewing options for the und/ndsu game will be, both television and webcast? ND NBC I would presume Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 And while I'm at it, anybody know who does the Wyoming Cowboys football broadcasts? I wonder if there is any chance the the UW/UND game could be viewed outside of Wyoming. Go to wyonation.com. They have all that info. I will be there cheering on UND. The one game where I won't be backing Pistol Pete and the Pokes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 ND NBC I would presume espn3 as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Take that for whatever he will go to. Call Gate City if you have to.Ha. Well I never let their arrogance get in the way of making a little cash. Never got less than 14 points from my Bison friends in any of these games and went 13-2 against their "spread".96 November 16, 1991 Fargo, ND North Dakota State 28 3597 November 14, 1992 Grand Forks, ND North Dakota State 19 2098 October 30, 1993 Grand Forks, ND North Dakota 22 2199 October 29, 1994 Fargo, ND North Dakota 34 13100 November 26, 1994 Grand Forks, ND North Dakota 14 7101 November 4, 1995 Grand Forks, ND North Dakota 21 7102 November 18, 1995 Grand Forks, ND North Dakota State 10 41103 November 9, 1996 Fargo, ND North Dakota 33 19104 October 18, 1997 Grand Forks, ND North Dakota State 10 31105 October 17, 1998 Fargo, ND North Dakota 39 25106 October 2, 1999 Grand Forks, ND North Dakota 13 10107 September 30, 2000 Fargo, ND North Dakota State 13 16108 October 6, 2001 Grand Forks, ND North Dakota 19 7109 October 12, 2002 Fargo, ND North Dakota 12 6110 October 18, 2003 Grand Forks, ND North Dakota 28 21 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FargoBison Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 espn3 as well? I would say NBC ND + ESPN3 is about a lock, probably ESPN Game Plan as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 I would say NBC ND + ESPN3 is about a lock, probably ESPN Game Plan as well. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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