Matt Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 If I agree with something based upon the information I have it doesn't make me think one side is good and the other bad. Bully! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 There's always a need to paint one side as the good guy in this stuff, and one party as the bad guy. When a program is in transition like this, I don't think there is necessarily a good or bad guy. Some parts just don't fit the new machine and it is time for both to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGame Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Bully! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperman8 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I know Dev was injured but don't know how long he would be out. It might have factored in if he said he was leaving at end of season and couldn't play now anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 There's always a need to paint one side as the good guy in this stuff, and one party as the bad guy. When a program is in transition like this, I don't think there is necessarily a good or bad guy. Some parts just don't fit the new machine and it is time for both to move on. We can safely say there was a good and a bad. The WR position group meetings are 'much more enjoyable' and 'have some positivity and energy'. -anonymous source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risky Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I wonder if Young knew that Ferguson was going to be gone from the program when he hung it up. Young might have a golden opportunity in front of him and didn't know, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I've heard that this is an isolated thing, the vast majority of players love this new staff and love playing for Bubba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 All of this is certainly not an ideal situation but adversity is a part of any competitive game and I hope they line up Saturday and play with passion. I am interested to see how the team responds Saturday. If they come out and play well than I will be happy because this team has gone through more than enough setbacks this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 A Muss is more like a goulash or jambalaya (a little of this, a little of that, little structure, and everything doing it's own thing and tossed in a pot together) and a Bubba is more steak and potatoes. If I ordered and expected a "Muss" and got a "Bubba" I'd probably not be happy with it. But if I ordered a "Bubba" and got it ... mmmm, steak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoHawks! Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Hopefully Ferguson and Young will find their way, both in their future football careers, (if that is an option or desire) and life in general. Good luck to them both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I wonder what Dev is going to do now. His tweet indicates that he's happy not being a student athlete but who knows how long that will last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 We can safely say there was a good and a bad. The WR position group meetings are 'much more enjoyable' and 'have some positivity and energy'. -anonymous source That might be true in this case, but there have been far too many player defections to pawn it off on them being bad guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigGame Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 That might be true in this case, but there have been far too many player defections to pawn it off on them being bad guys. People quit for a lot of different reasons. Most are likely valid reasons but you do have situations like at least a player or two from last season that probably should have been removed from the team before they left anyway. The guy I am thinking of doesn't seem to be doing all that well this season either. The grass is always greener! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 People quit for a lot of different reasons. Most are likely valid reasons but you do have situations like at least a player or two from last season that probably should have been removed from the team before they left anyway. The guy I am thinking of doesn't seem to be doing all that well this season either. The grass is always greener! Yeah, there is a certain receiver at Mankato that has yet to catch a pass this year.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Yeah, there is a certain receiver at Mankato that has yet to catch a pass this year.... You have to actually pass classes to play once you transfer. The classes before you transferred and the classes after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Anyone else notice that our problems have been mostly with WR quitting/transferring/being released? Golladay is the exception since he transferred up a level and left here on good terms. The old adage, the further away from the ball... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDfan2013 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 OK so now can we all move on? Let's support the many, many players who have chosen to be with the team and play for UND. The returning players have dealt with many challenges over the past year...firing of their coaches, players leaving, the long drawn out hiring process, the unknowns of their new coaching staff until after returning from Christmas break, learning new playbooks, some changing positions, spring and fall ball, and now multiple injuries during the season. This has been a lot of disruption. Player changes happen when new coaches come in, bottom line. I am now hoping that the players will "show" all the fans (and doubters) that they are here to play competitive football. Will they win their last three game, I sure hope so but all season I have just wanted to see improvement, effort and competitive football. You cannot rebuild a program overnight. The player deflections and injuries have hurt the teams consistency this season but it is a building process and I have been pleased with the other players that have stepped up. Go UND!. I will continue to be rooting them on every game! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forksandspoons Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 This whole addition by subtraction thing is really getting annoying. I'm tired or seeing these talented kids leave this program. I know most weren't Bubbas recruits but when I saw that Dev was leaving the team already that really made me mad. Yeah I know he originally committed to Mussmans staff but he then recommitted to Bubbas. If it has to do with injury that's one thing but judging by his tweets he doesn't seem too disappointed with giving up football. I saw he retweeted Millers tweet saying that the EWU loss was the biggest in like 60 years or something. I just don't understand why the kids that were previously here don't like playing for Bubba. Is it too hard? I don't know but that's the end of my spiel. I don't think UND has lost a Bubba recruit yet, has it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forksandspoons Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Next man up. It hurt worse when we lost Golladay, we all lived, so will the team. Understatement. Golladay will play in the NFL one day IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Understatement. Golladay will play in the NFL one day IMO. He's special. He gets faster as he adds weight, he's got a lot of frame left. I expect him to be the man for NIU next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Just win. Bubba gets a pass this year for obvious rebuilding reasons, but next year I expect a winning season due to a relatively easier conference schedule. This patience bullsh*t is getting old. The only thing I read on blogs and in newspapers regarding UND football is "it will take time" this and "patience" that. Any successful college football program expects to win immediately; it's the name of the game. UND expected to win in DII, but now in DI FCS, UND is a bottom-half less-than-average football program and that should appall true UND supporters. The Montana's and NDSU's of the world aren't allowed three consecutive losing seasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I don't think UND has lost a Bubba recruit yet, has it? There's some jucos that didn't stick it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Hopefully deer hunting doesn't affect attendance that much. Let's not get a repeat of the UNC game last year where the sounds of crickets can be heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 It's a poor excuse There aren't that many tags issued this year! Especially where majority of Und aupporters hunt in 2c and 2b Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 It's a poor excuse There aren't that many tags issued this year! Especially where majority of Und aupporters hunt in 2c and 2b I'm out in 4E...locked and loaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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