ND1 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Hearing we have landed a Big 10 opponent for 2020 or 2021. Can't confirm whom, but it's not the gophers. Details are to be released soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Just spitballing but it looks like Iowa has a 2021 opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, jdub27 said: Just spitballing but it looks like Iowa has a 2021 opening. Though with the AD and AAD there, I'm not sold that is the one. The AAD of which you refer is AD at K-State now, isn't he? Michigan and Michigan State have openings, but not Wisconsin (thinking "hockey schools"). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 14 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: The AAD of which you refer is AD at K-State now, isn't he? Michigan and Michigan State have openings, but not Wisconsin (thinking "hockey schools"). Oops. Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Mentioning hockey schools, Penn State has openings. Penn State. Hockey. ... Wow. Whodathunkit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 We want Ohio State. Lol!! Actually I would love to play Nebraska. SDSU played them pretty tough a few years back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie82 Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 34 minutes ago, darell1976 said: We want Ohio State. Lol!! Actually I would love to play Nebraska. SDSU played them pretty tough a few years back. I saw a game at Nebraska - it should be near the top of every college football fan's list. I hope the Hawks play there someday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 Rutgers! *I think I threw up a little bit saying that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted October 17, 2017 Share Posted October 17, 2017 20 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said: Rutgers! *I think I threw up a little bit saying that Why not? We would have a solid chance of beating them. And an FBS win is an FBS win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 14 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said: Why not? We would have a solid chance of beating them. And an FBS win is an FBS win. Not if it's Wyoming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 15 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said: Why not? We would have a solid chance of beating them. And an FBS win is an FBS win. Agree completely. We need to schedule games with the mindset that we will go there and win. Enough of this "let's play there because it's scenic" crap. That was the argument for folks who think the Big Sky Conference is better than the MVFC and Summit for UND - despicable if you ask me. UND football - including the followers - needs to adopt the mindset of winners. Want a blueprint? Look 70 miles south; hate to say it but it's the damn truth. Right now very few expect UND football to consistently win. This season hasn't help that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post iramurphy Posted October 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2017 53 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Agree completely. We need to schedule games with the mindset that we will go there and win. Enough of this "let's play there because it's scenic" crap. That was the argument for folks who think the Big Sky Conference is better than the MVFC and Summit for UND - despicable if you ask me. UND football - including the followers - needs to adopt the mindset of winners. Want a blueprint? Look 70 miles south; hate to say it but it's the damn truth. Right now very few expect UND football to consistently win. This season hasn't help that. The MVFC issue is settled so there is no reason to kick that dead horse. I agree we need to have the mindset that we win. I believe most of our fans understand that. I wouldn't look 70 miles south. They have a very different community and support system. They are a community of almost 200,000 people. They receive tremendous financial support from local and regional businesses who often times are not Alumni. Three of their most generous contributors are UND grads. (Mercil, Barry, Ingstad). UND's support strength is our alumni. We have a number of area businesses who are also very generous supporters but their aren't enough of them. We need to be evaluating every possibility for our programs including level of play and conference affiliation on a regular basis. Hopefully Kennedy has that in mind. He does have an affinity for what the AC is doing. I believe we need to pay attention but that wouldn't be my blueprint. We need to do it better. We need to consider the cost and options of moving up in FB. That wouldn't be possible right now and maybe not in the future but if we aren't positioning ourselves for that possibility we will be left flogging the dolphin like we were when UNI, Montana, Montana State moved up , then later the Su's. We need a vision and long term strategy that includes better support and sustainable support from out Alumni association. There is no reason we don't have the Phase 2 part of the Sports facility going. It will also take a commitment from our present donors to maintain and hopefully increase our present support. We need to put the name and logo crap to rest. That ship has not only sailed it has sunk. One of the reasons it won't ever come back is that no one in their right mind wants to deal with tribal governments. They can completely change over night. Happens with our own government elections. We also need to stop the crap about hockey vs other sports. There are many fans of neighboring schools in other sports who are loyal UND hockey fans and we need them. We also need to make sure the transition of the Engelstad arena to UND goes smoothly and we remain sensitive to the Engelstad family and are respectful of their opinions and input. Lots of work to do but lots of opportunities for success. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moser53 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 3 hours ago, iramurphy said: The MVFC issue is settled so there is no reason to kick that dead horse. I agree we need to have the mindset that we win. I believe most of our fans understand that. I wouldn't look 70 miles south. They have a very different community and support system. They are a community of almost 200,000 people. They receive tremendous financial support from local and regional businesses who often times are not Alumni. Three of their most generous contributors are UND grads. (Mercil, Barry, Ingstad). UND's support strength is our alumni. We have a number of area businesses who are also very generous supporters but their aren't enough of them. We need to be evaluating every possibility for our programs including level of play and conference affiliation on a regular basis. Hopefully Kennedy has that in mind. He does have an affinity for what the AC is doing. I believe we need to pay attention but that wouldn't be my blueprint. We need to do it better. We need to consider the cost and options of moving up in FB. That wouldn't be possible right now and maybe not in the future but if we aren't positioning ourselves for that possibility we will be left flogging the dolphin like we were when UNI, Montana, Montana State moved up , then later the Su's. We need a vision and long term strategy that includes better support and sustainable support from out Alumni association. There is no reason we don't have the Phase 2 part of the Sports facility going. It will also take a commitment from our present donors to maintain and hopefully increase our present support. We need to put the name and logo crap to rest. That ship has not only sailed it has sunk. One of the reasons it won't ever come back is that no one in their right mind wants to deal with tribal governments. They can completely change over night. Happens with our own government elections. We also need to stop the crap about hockey vs other sports. There are many fans of neighboring schools in other sports who are loyal UND hockey fans and we need them. We also need to make sure the transition of the Engelstad arena to UND goes smoothly and we remain sensitive to the Engelstad family and are respectful of their opinions and input. Lots of work to do but lots of opportunities for success. 1. Don't you have to look 70 miles to the south to try and protect your interests? But if we're honest with ourselves the decisions been made and there is only room in ND for 1 D1 team and it's not in GF. 2. The process with the removal of the Sioux nickname was seriously flaud. And there are people still trying to as they see it righting a wwrong. Talked to one not long ago. Natives are like anybody else you can deal with them. The problem is in politics in Bismarck or Fort Yates the leaders don't listen to the people's will. I'm assuming Fort Yates votes to OK the use of the nickname. 3.Engelstad arena to the state? Smells bad to me your giving it to Fargo and other anti UND and GF haters. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moser53 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 They'll take all the profit out of the Engelstad send the $ who knows where. Not keep up on the maintenance. Kelley leaves town and we find out 500 million deferred maintenance. They will not keep up the building like these guys so do. In most cases cities want tax payers to pay for the maintenance of buildings in there community. The way the state has treated buildings at UND I think I'd take my chances keeping it in the hands of the private sector. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 20 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said: Why not? We would have a solid chance of beating them. And an FBS win is an FBS win. I do agree, don't get me wrong. My barf comment was more in the tune of "why is Rutgers in the Big 10 they don't belong it's only for $$$" rant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 25 minutes ago, moser53 said: They'll take all the profit out of the Engelstad send the $ who knows where. Not keep up on the maintenance. Kelley leaves town and we find out 500 million deferred maintenance. They will not keep up the building like these guys so do. In most cases cities want tax payers to pay for the maintenance of buildings in there community. The way the state has treated buildings at UND I think I'd take my chances keeping it in the hands of the private sector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, moser53 said: 1. Don't you have to look 70 miles to the south to try and protect your interests? But if we're honest with ourselves the decisions been made and there is only room in ND for 1 D1 team and it's not in GF. 2. The process with the removal of the Sioux nickname was seriously flaud. And there are people still trying to as they see it righting a wwrong. Talked to one not long ago. Natives are like anybody else you can deal with them. The problem is in politics in Bismarck or Fort Yates the leaders don't listen to the people's will. I'm assuming Fort Yates votes to OK the use of the nickname. 3.Engelstad arena to the state? Smells bad to me your giving it to Fargo and other anti UND and GF haters. If you really think UND is going back to Division II and into the arms of the NSIC, then you guys are way more arrogant and self-absorbed than I thought you were. Here are some facts for you: 1) Fargo is not Minneapolis. 2) UND is not going away. Now go on back to Bisonville and keep dreaming about the Big 12 and/or Big 10. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: If you really think UND is going back to Division II and into the arms of the NSIC, then you guys are way more arrogant and self-absorbed than I thought you were. Here are some facts for you: 1) Fargo is not Minneapolis. 2) UND is not going away. Now go on back to Bisonville and keep dreaming about the Big 12 and/or Big 10. I don't think he's a bison fan. Just a crazy person. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 13 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: I don't think he's a bison fan. Just a crazy person. There is a difference? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 10 minutes ago, homer said: There is a difference? If we made a Venn diagram, I believe the "bison fan" circle would be entirely within the "crazy person" circle, but the "crazy person" circle would be larger than the "bison fan" circle, as not all crazy people are bison fans. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moser53 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 39 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: I don't think he's a bison fan. Just a crazy person. Finally your on to something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iramurphy Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 8 hours ago, moser53 said: 1. Don't you have to look 70 miles to the south to try and protect your interests? But if we're honest with ourselves the decisions been made and there is only room in ND for 1 D1 team and it's not in GF. 2. The process with the removal of the Sioux nickname was seriously flaud. And there are people still trying to as they see it righting a wwrong. Talked to one not long ago. Natives are like anybody else you can deal with them. The problem is in politics in Bismarck or Fort Yates the leaders don't listen to the people's will. I'm assuming Fort Yates votes to OK the use of the nickname. 3.Engelstad arena to the state? Smells bad to me your giving it to Fargo and other anti UND and GF haters. What goes on at the AC doesn't threaten what's in the best interest of the University but we must not ignore the success and failures of our friends to the south. Your one school comment is something only an ignorant moron would say. UND isn't going to waste anymore time on the old name and logo. Who cares if some take more time to move on. We cheer for success of the team and athletes not a nickname or logo. Nothing UND can do about it and there are a whole host of people who can be the scapegoats but it no longer matters. I believe the contract for the Engelstad arena gives ownership and control to UND with all profits going to support UND athletics . For some reason I thought it was 20 yrs after it opened but I would have to look it up. Doesn't involve Fargo. UND is a state institution and I understand the role of the legislature and SBOHE. Unfortunately the state could mess with UND funding by redirecting other funds if the arena is providing a large financial bonus to UND but the arena wouldn't be directly run by the legislature, Fargo folks nor UND haters. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 6 hours ago, iramurphy said: What goes on at the AC doesn't threaten what's in the best interest of the University but we must not ignore the success and failures of our friends to the south. Your one school comment is something only an ignorant moron would say. UND isn't going to waste anymore time on the old name and logo. Who cares if some take more time to move on. We cheer for success of the team and athletes not a nickname or logo. Nothing UND can do about it and there are a whole host of people who can be the scapegoats but it no longer matters. I believe the contract for the Engelstad arena gives ownership and control to UND with all profits going to support UND athletics . For some reason I thought it was 20 yrs after it opened but I would have to look it up. Doesn't involve Fargo. UND is a state institution and I understand the role of the legislature and SBOHE. Unfortunately the state could mess with UND funding by redirecting other funds if the arena is providing a large financial bonus to UND but the arena wouldn't be directly run by the legislature, Fargo folks nor UND haters. REA --> UND after 30 years, which started just after start of this century. UND owns land, REA the improvement thereon. Thanks Ralph Engelstad and family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 14 hours ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: REA --> UND after 30 years, which started just after start of this century. UND owns land, REA the improvement thereon. Thanks Ralph Engelstad and family. UND gains control of the REA in 2030. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoiseInsideMyHead Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 2 hours ago, darell1976 said: UND gains control of the REA in 2030. Smart money is on the current REA leadership being the successful bidder to run/manage the arena even after ownership reverts to UND. UND is not going to go it alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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