.357 Posted Friday at 04:14 AM Posted Friday at 04:14 AM Just now, NoDak Hockey Nation said: Keep on being naive lol Name-calling doesn't prove your argument. You have not disproven the fact that NIL money is exclusively from private donors..nor do you or anyone on this board have the faintest idea the real reason why Boisvert left. Quote
siouxfan512 Posted Friday at 04:24 AM Posted Friday at 04:24 AM 1 hour ago, brianvf said: The position was just posted on Monday and doesn't close until next Monday. Fair enough. Its a quite time now that the Frozen Four is over ... I'm impatient and curious. Still curious if there are some other names or who it will be. Quote
brianvf Posted Friday at 04:42 AM Posted Friday at 04:42 AM 16 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said: Fair enough. Its a quite time now that the Frozen Four is over ... I'm impatient and curious. Still curious if there are some other names or who it will be. You and me both! Still over 5 months before next season starts, and I'm anxious to see how this roster shapes up... 1 Quote
NoDak Hockey Nation Posted Friday at 07:11 AM Posted Friday at 07:11 AM 2 hours ago, .357 said: Name-calling doesn't prove your argument. You have not disproven the fact that NIL money is exclusively from private donors..nor do you or anyone on this board have the faintest idea the real reason why Boisvert left. I realize that private dollars feed the collectives. It’s the same donors that fed the athletic programs for the last 20 years. Quote
burd Posted Friday at 12:04 PM Posted Friday at 12:04 PM 4 hours ago, NoDak Hockey Nation said: I realize that private dollars feed the collectives. It’s the same donors that fed the athletic programs for the last 20 years. With most charitable (501C3) organizations, testamentary gifts are a significant part of the donation pool. Don't know how that works with athletic programs in public universities. Quote
90siouxfan Posted Friday at 12:29 PM Posted Friday at 12:29 PM A lot of jibber jabber about NIL being non institution funds.... Does the institution have a significant, probably discreet role in where those funds go? Or can I cash out my 401k and surprise Jax with McKenna? Too be faaaaair, my 401k would likely only get a week, ya'll need to step up here. Quote
HockeyHawk Posted Friday at 12:32 PM Posted Friday at 12:32 PM 5 hours ago, NoDak Hockey Nation said: I realize that private dollars feed the collectives. It’s the same donors that fed the athletic programs for the last 20 years. Do we have any idea how UND’s NIL deals compare to rival hockey programs? Quote
gfhockey Posted Friday at 12:43 PM Posted Friday at 12:43 PM 11 minutes ago, HockeyHawk said: Do we have any idea how UND’s NIL deals compare to rival hockey programs? Quite a bit lower Quote
AJS Posted Friday at 12:58 PM Posted Friday at 12:58 PM Has the 1883 x Jackson set up any type of meet and greet type of fundraiser? The real difference makers, you're going to have to seek out. I am so disappointed, not in the 1883 guys, but in the coaching staff. Up to this point, a complete lack of effort. The NDSU coaching staff is active in their collective. You need to have meet ups. Fundraisers. Nobody is going to the website and donate 250k or more. I do get tired of reading how UND has no $ to compete. Complete lack of effort. Need Jackson to step up. *Clearly, it's still early in the Jackson era, but you'd think this would be a top priority* Note: The 1883 collective sent out a note a few days ago asking for help on the Women's side (especially W-Bball). This was the first time they sent out a note like that. Never been a mass communication on their end either that they need more $ to compete in the hockey world. 2 Quote
HockeyHawk Posted Friday at 01:02 PM Posted Friday at 01:02 PM 17 minutes ago, gfhockey said: Quite a bit lower Is this due to a case of people needing to step up and help more with NIL, or is it more that grand forks is a smaller community and doesn’t have as many donors as colleges in bigger cities? Quote
NoDak Hockey Nation Posted Friday at 01:17 PM Posted Friday at 01:17 PM 44 minutes ago, HockeyHawk said: Do we have any idea how UND’s NIL deals compare to rival hockey programs? Michigan is forking over 6 figures to some players. We’re giving our 1st round pick DMan Deek’s pizza… Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted Friday at 01:19 PM Posted Friday at 01:19 PM 15 minutes ago, AJS said: Has the 1883 x Jackson set up any type of meet and greet type of fundraiser? The real difference makers, you're going to have to seek out. I am so disappointed, not in the 1883 guys, but in the coaching staff. Up to this point, a complete lack of effort. The NDSU coaching staff is active in their collective. You need to have meet ups. Fundraisers. Nobody is going to the website and donate 250k or more. I do get tired of reading how UND has no $ to compete. Complete lack of effort. Need Jackson to step up. *Clearly, it's still early in the Jackson era, but you'd think this would be a top priority* Note: The 1883 collective sent out a note a few days ago asking for help on the Women's side (especially W-Bball). This was the first time they sent out a note like that. Never been a mass communication on their end either that they need more $ to compete in the hockey world. -First he needs to finish filling out his staff. -Then he has to plug all the holes in the roster. -Then he has to make sure our verbal commits don't leave us. I agree with you 100% on more effort and energy being needed with NIL from everyone. But Jax hasn't been on the job for even one month yet. Rome wasn't built in a day and neither will the 1883 Collective. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted Friday at 01:24 PM Posted Friday at 01:24 PM 16 minutes ago, HockeyHawk said: Is this due to a case of people needing to step up and help more with NIL, or is it more that grand forks is a smaller community and doesn’t have as many donors as colleges in bigger cities? Enough of the market size b.s. Reaching out to alumni and former players goes far beyond the city limits of Grand Forks. These are people who love UND and love the program just as much, if not more, than the people here. But you have to reach out to them and court them. Explain how crucial this is to the future health and success of the program and I think they'll respond big time. But it won't happen organically. 3 Quote
siouxforce19 Posted Friday at 01:26 PM Posted Friday at 01:26 PM Half of this fanbase still doesn’t know what NIL is. They probably think it’s the same as donations to the Alumni Foundation. 1883 needs a massive marketing and PR effort to get the word out better because what they are doing now isn’t getting the point across. 1 1 Quote
gfhockey Posted Friday at 01:41 PM Posted Friday at 01:41 PM 23 minutes ago, NoDak Hockey Nation said: Michigan is forking over 6 figures to some players. We’re giving our 1st round pick DMan Deek’s pizza… Free car washes too I’ve heard Quote
gfhockey Posted Friday at 01:41 PM Posted Friday at 01:41 PM 38 minutes ago, HockeyHawk said: Is this due to a case of people needing to step up and help more with NIL, or is it more that grand forks is a smaller community and doesn’t have as many donors as colleges in bigger cities? How many Fortune 500 company’s in grand forks? Other then red pepper none Quote
ChadR Posted Friday at 02:06 PM Posted Friday at 02:06 PM 1 hour ago, HockeyHawk said: Do we have any idea how UND’s NIL deals compare to rival hockey programs? Top 20 in the College Hockey, but nowhere near Top 5 or Top 10. Quote
nascar99 Posted Friday at 02:08 PM Posted Friday at 02:08 PM Just now, ChadR said: Top 20 in the College Hockey, but nowhere near Top 5 or Top 10. Is Kris Engelstad McGarry contributing much if any money to UND Hockey nowadays? Quote
hockeytherapy13 Posted Friday at 02:14 PM Posted Friday at 02:14 PM 48 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: Enough of the market size b.s. Reaching out to alumni and former players goes far beyond the city limits of Grand Forks. These are people who love UND and love the program just as much, if not more, than the people here. But you have to reach out to them and court them. Explain how crucial this is to the future health and success of the program and I think they'll respond big time. But it won't happen organically. Annual enrollment at some Big 10 schools are 4x the size as UND. Which means there's quadruple the amount of possible alumni and donors. That makes a huge difference when compounded over decades worth of alumni. 3 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted Friday at 02:50 PM Posted Friday at 02:50 PM When someone says "BU is giving ..." that's a misnomer and misunderstanding. Scarlet and White Exchange is "giving" in support of BU teams. https://app.inflcr.com/exchange/boston-university 1 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted Friday at 02:53 PM Posted Friday at 02:53 PM Crabby old man alert: I still say NIL is pay for play. When I'm US Senator from North Dakota I'm introducing legislation to tax NIL income at 95%. Quote
Dustin Posted Friday at 03:16 PM Posted Friday at 03:16 PM 1 hour ago, siouxforce19 said: Half of this fanbase still doesn’t know what NIL is. They probably think it’s the same as donations to the Alumni Foundation. 1883 needs a massive marketing and PR effort to get the word out better because what they are doing now isn’t getting the point across. My UND alum aunt & uncle from Fargo visited over last Christmas, and they had heard at their church that a NDSU football player (I think it was the Lance kid) was getting big bucks to play and they were appalled. I had to explain to them that UND was doing the same thing (maybe not big bucks, but bucks anyway), and they wondered how this was legal, so I had to explain the Alston court decision. Not that I am righteous enough to shake a moral first about this, but as much as I don't really love it, I am in favor of what the 1883 Collective is trying to do to make UND relevant in the modern era of college athletics. Quote
.357 Posted Friday at 03:27 PM Posted Friday at 03:27 PM 1 hour ago, ChadR said: Top 20 in the College Hockey, but nowhere near Top 5 or Top 10. I had no idea that there was an official ranking system of college hockey NIL donations & that UND was only around #20. Please post that link when you have a chance, because surely you didn't just make up those numbers. Quote
iramurphy Posted Friday at 03:32 PM Posted Friday at 03:32 PM 2 hours ago, HockeyHawk said: Is this due to a case of people needing to step up and help more with NIL, or is it more that grand forks is a smaller community and doesn’t have as many donors as colleges in bigger cities? Both 1 Quote
siouxfaninseattle Posted Friday at 03:50 PM Posted Friday at 03:50 PM 56 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Crabby old man alert: I still say NIL is pay for play. When I'm US Senator from North Dakota I'm introducing legislation to tax NIL income at 95%. But make it only in states that start with M. 1 Quote
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