Transfer Portal 2024-25

[AJS]

Let's talk LB. The fact is you'll need 1/2 the amount as last year. Clearly, you cannot have 6 LB's as part of the incoming class. That band-aid needs to be ripped off now. Tough situation for the players, but it's just numbers. Ideally, wouldn't mind 1 or 2 others from the returning roster enter. Outside of the LB position, I hope nobody else enters. 

[Player21]

51 minutes ago, AJS said:

Let's talk LB. The fact is you'll need 1/2 the amount as last year. Clearly, you cannot have 6 LB's as part of the incoming class. That band-aid needs to be ripped off now. Tough situation for the players, but it's just numbers. Ideally, wouldn't mind 1 or 2 others from the returning roster enter. Outside of the LB position, I hope nobody else enters. 

I would expect a number of the LB's to leave, but also look for some of the 6'3"-6'4" LB's to get a look at potentially filling an EDGE role.  All depends on the skill set/body type and how they fit into those ILB and EDGE positions.  But yes, I'd expect some current LB's to leave and for us to recruit a few less LB's each year.

[jdub27]

51 minutes ago, AJS said:

Let's talk LB. The fact is you'll need 1/2 the amount as last year. Clearly, you cannot have 6 LB's as part of the incoming class. That band-aid needs to be ripped off now. Tough situation for the players, but it's just numbers. Ideally, wouldn't mind 1 or 2 others from the returning roster enter. Outside of the LB position, I hope nobody else enters. 

Given the 4-2-5 scheme, it is possible some of those players may have the ability to switch to safety, edge or even a heavy nickel. But you are right, 6 dedicated LB's is a big number.

[gundy1124]

26 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

Given the 4-2-5 scheme, it is possible some of those players may have the ability to switch to safety, edge or even a heavy nickel. But you are right, 6 dedicated LB's is a big number.

Nickel needs to be a stud, could come in as a smaller LB type.  But ya, going from a 4 LB defense to 2 LB D and a Nickel probably will cause a roster kerfuffle.

[The Sicatoka]

To my eye UND LBs have looked like other teams' safeties ... but way slower. 

[FSSD]

My question is what is the body type of the "2" LB in this system.  I assume that they would fit the mold of ILB versus the OLB.  Otherwise you would have teams loading up the power run game again.  Does anyone know?

[Player21]

1 minute ago, FSSD said:

My question is what is the body type of the "2" LB in this system.  I assume that they would fit the mold of ILB versus the OLB.  Otherwise you would have teams loading up the power run game again.  Does anyone know?

Very similar body type/skill set to that of the ILB’s we are used to seeing in the 3-4. Maybe a little more athletic to get to runs that bounce outside the EDGE when they spill pullers, but you’ll still need guys that can fill on inside runs.

[UND08]

28 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

To my eye UND LBs have looked like other teams' safeties ... but way slower. 

And that right there is why our defense has performed like it has...

"It's not the X's and O's...it's the Jimmy's and the Joe's..."

[fightingsioux4life]

4 minutes ago, UND08 said:

And that right there is why our defense has performed like it has...

"It's not the X's and O's...it's the Jimmy's and the Joe's..."

Actually, I think it's both. The 3-4 was put in to stop an offense that most teams don't run anymore. It was time to change it up.

[UND08]

Just now, fightingsioux4life said:

Actually, I think it's both. The 3-4 was put in to stop an offense that most teams don't run anymore. It was time to change it up.

How many times were we actually in a base 3-4 defense with most teams in the spread before the coaching change?

Whether we were in a nickel 3-3-5 or 3-4, or some other exotic alignment...we failed to get enough size, speed and technique on the field, and it's been woefully apparent for awhile now!  IMO changing to a 4-2-5 alone will not fix that issue...but it will buy Coach Schmidt some time in the court of public opinion based on fan reaction I see...

Alabama ran a 3-4 defense under Nick Saban...technically Georgia is too...but what a 3-4 was 20 years ago isn't the same as it is now.

Any scheme can be successful if you have the right players to run it.

[fightingsioux4life]

1 minute ago, UND08 said:

How many times were we actually in a base 3-4 defense with most teams in the spread before the coaching change?

Whether we were in a nickel 3-3-5 or 3-4, or some other exotic alignment...we failed to get enough size, speed and technique on the field, and it's been woefully apparent for awhile now!  IMO changing to a 4-2-5 alone will not fix that issue...but it will buy Coach Schmidt some time in the court of public opinion based on fan reaction I see...

Alabama ran a 3-4 defense under Nick Saban...technically Georgia is too...but what a 3-4 was 20 years ago isn't the same as it is now.

Any scheme can be successful if you have the right players to run it.

Fair points. I brought up the 3-4 because so many people here have talked about it being obsolete.

[Dustin]

17 minutes ago, UND08 said:

Any scheme can be successful if you have the right players to run it.

Exactly. True of any organizational activity, whether it's sports or a business.

[Siouxperman8]

1883 Collective has posted in the past couple days that these players are back in addition to Sawyer Seidl:

• Deng Deng
• Sam Strandell
• Caleb Olson 

[AJS]

18 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said:

1883 Collective has posted in the past couple days that these players are back in addition to Sawyer Seidl:

• Deng Deng
• Sam Strandell
• Caleb Olson 

• Trace Thaden

Need to see 100% of eligible lineman on the 2-Deep outside of Folland announced. Buxa, Becher, Gorder, Cariveau, Teeter. 
 

Buxa, Becher as returning starters. Thaden imo is presumed starter this upcoming year.

[forksandspoons]

Offer to SDSU DB who appeared to have left the team early in the season to preserve eligibility. Was as Eastern Michigan last year and played quite a bit. 
 

 

[AJS]

From St. Paul. 4 years of eligibility remaining.

[jdub27]

46 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Fair points. I brought up the 3-4 because so many people here have talked about it being obsolete.

It is still used by some of the top teams in the FBS and more than a handful of NFL teams.
What base defense you run doesn't really matter if you don't have the players to run it and/or they aren't fundamentally sound. UND hasn't been able to consistently get the athletes they need to run it.

[Siouxperman8]

6 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

It is still used by some of the top teams in the FBS and more than a handful of NFL teams.
What base defense you run doesn't really matter if you don't have the players to run it and/or they aren't fundamentally sound. UND hasn't been able to consistently get the athletes they need to run it.

We haven't been able to consistently get enough top athletes to run any defensive set at a high level.  The 3-4 is just a convenient boogeyman.  

[Dustin]

6 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said:

We haven't been able to consistently get enough top athletes to run any defensive set at a high level.  The 3-4 is just a convenient boogeyman.  

This is probably the biggest defensive truth post-2007.

[sioux24/7]

20 minutes ago, forksandspoons said:

Offer to SDSU DB who appeared to have left the team early in the season to preserve eligibility. Was as Eastern Michigan last year and played quite a bit. 
 

 

Played JUCO too so may have even more eligibility than he originally thought. 

[geaux_sioux]

52 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

It is still used by some of the top teams in the FBS and more than a handful of NFL teams.
What base defense you run doesn't really matter if you don't have the players to run it and/or they aren't fundamentally sound. UND hasn't been able to consistently get the athletes they need to run it.

BODY. TYPES.

[Sioux94]

We would be salivating if we ever got a transfer like this. Hopefully with the new staff we can get some higher end potential portal transfers. 

 

[geaux_sioux]

1 hour ago, Sioux94 said:

We would be salivating if we ever got a transfer like this. Hopefully with the new staff we can get some higher end potential portal transfers. 

 

Like when we did in 2012?

[gfhockey]

2 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Like when we did in 2012?

Braden was a gem

[SiouxFan100]

Nort impressed until we land quality transfers