2023 Non-UND FCS thread

[fightingsioux4life]

1 hour ago, shep said:

Just another reason not to shop Fargo. It's becoming a mini-Minneapolis. Hate the traffic.

Careful, you'll expand their ego even more than it already is. 

I like to shop locally anyway.

[SiouxFan100]

There are a ton of UND fans living in the Fargo/West Fargo metro including me.

[Nodak78]

47 minutes ago, bison73 said:

How does adding 1/4 of a cent get you to 14%?  What am I missing?

Did you miss the 3% lodging tax.  City and the county would increase.

[bison73]

37 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:

Did you miss the 3% lodging tax.  City and the county would increase.

Didnt miss it at all. But its a separate item. BTW I ve been to cities with a bigger hotel tax than Fargo. Why conflate the two?

[The Sicatoka]

OK ... no conflation:

They're adding a 0.25% sales tax to all transactions so that becomes 8%.

They're raising the lodging tax from 3% to 6%. 

[The Sicatoka]

8 hours ago, bison73 said:

BTW I ve been to cities with a bigger hotel tax than Fargo. 

So have I and I noted it.
Events I control won't be in those places and I point it out to others who site events. 

I stayed in Baxter/Brainerd earlier this month: 10.89% net tax on the room (state, county, city, lodging).

Fargo's mayor is also looking to raise property taxes this cycle. That combo is not going to sit well with tax paying voters.   

[The Sicatoka]

Don't we hear from @Bison Dan that Fargodome operates at a profit?
Where are those dollars for improvements? Why tax increases? 

About seating: They should salvage the red/blue seats and sell them to VCSU to redo Lokken Stadium.  

[Mama Sue]

1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:

OK ... no conflation:

They're adding a 0.25% sales tax to all transactions so that becomes 8%.

They're raising the lodging tax from 3% to 6%. 

Does this include all the great shopping in West Fargo? 

[The Sicatoka]

4 minutes ago, Mama Sue said:

Does this include all the great shopping in West Fargo? 

Fargo city sales tax. 

On 13th Ave the WF/Fargo line is Spitfire*.

 

*A little shout to Spitfire because last I knew it's owned by a UND graduate. 

[fightingsioux4life]

11 hours ago, SiouxFan100 said:

There are a ton of UND fans living in the Fargo/West Fargo metro including me.

I think the target of these posts is the Imperial Cass County attitude of some people who live there. Not you.

[The Sicatoka]

A past UND AD told me about 1/3 of UND MIH season ticket holders live in Cass County. 

I-29 on a Saturday night confirms.  

[UND08]

1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said:

Don't we hear from @Bison Dan that Fargodome operates at a profit?
Where are those dollars for improvements? Why tax increases? 

About seating: They should salvage the red/blue seats and sell them to VCSU to redo Lokken Stadium.  

They don't need it...their seats are way nicer at Lokken!

 

 

 

[AJS]

As an anti-NDSU Fargo resident who never goes to the Dome you would think this would be an automatic no vote. I’ll be voting yes. The phrase lipstick on a pig would be appropriate. The way I look at it, vote yes, you won’t hear about anything in relation to big updates / new building for 30 years.

[Bison Dan]

2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

Don't we hear from @Bison Dan that Fargodome operates at a profit?
Where are those dollars for improvements? Why tax increases? 

About seating: They should salvage the red/blue seats and sell them to VCSU to redo Lokken Stadium.  

Really - the dome has always been profitable except the Covid years.  The Alerus has never been if you take the subsidy hotel and restaurant away.   Did you even read the article?  They're putting 30M of the dome money into it.  By the way Fargo's tax will be 7.75 if it passes.  Just wait for the sales tax for the Alerus goes away in 29, who's going to pay for the improvements?  That tax will never go away.

[The Sicatoka]

5 minutes ago, Bison Dan said:

The Alerus has never been if you take the subsidy hotel and restaurant away.   They're putting 30M of the dome money into it.  

Subsidy? Like a lodging tax going from 3 to 6%? 

And that $30M should've been put to use doing facilities improvements already. The lavatory facilities at Fargodome are a joke*. 

 

*I am so struggling to not make a Bud Light NDSU sponsorship, no one would notice Dylan in the men's room because women have to already because it's so bad, joke here. 

[Siouxperfan7]

The debate on Bozoville is pretty hilarious!  This response literally made me LOL!!! 

[Bison Dan]

15 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Subsidy? Like a lodging tax going from 3 to 6%? 

And that $30M should've been put to use doing facilities improvements already. The lavatory facilities at Fargodome are a joke*. 

 

*I am so struggling to not make a Bud Light NDSU sponsorship, no one would notice Dylan in the men's room because women have to already because it's so bad, joke here. 

The dome has never had a lodging tax for it, if this passes it will have one for payment of the bonds not for the operating losses like the Alerus has.  You are really struggling to be negative and why would you care anyway.  We'll see what the Alerus needs after 30 years and what the city will do after 29 to support and do upgrades for it.  Another tax?

[Kab]

13 hours ago, bison73 said:

How does adding 1/4 of a cent get you to 14%?  What am I missing?

6% lodging and 8% sales tax would be 14%

would be 10.75 now 

[The Sicatoka]

44 minutes ago, Bison Dan said:

You are really struggling to be negative ... 

Then allow me to be positive:

- I'm positive the mayor of Fargo is looking to raise property and utility taxes outside of this proposal (already raised the utility franchise fee)
- I'm positive this requires 60% supermajority to pass
- I'm positive in this (inflationary) economic climate this will have trouble at the polls

 

[AJS]

If InForum's poll is any indication, this won't even come close to passing. 

[fightingsioux4life]

Just now, AJS said:

If InForum's poll is any indication, this won't even come close to passing. 

Is it a scientific poll? Or one of those "anyone who reads the story online can vote" polls?

[AJS]

6 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said:

Is it a scientific poll? Or one of those "anyone who reads the story online can vote" polls?

The one I bolded. 

[fightingsioux4life]

4 minutes ago, AJS said:

The one I bolded. 

Then it's not worth the bath tissue it's printed on. Someone needs to do a scientific poll.

[Mama Sue]

15 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

screw fargo and their old dome

One thing we agree on…..

[SiouxFan100]

Go Jimmies paint bucket