HAWKS VS red cows (GAME ONE)

[scpa0305]

4 hours ago, cberkas said:

When I hear Johnson is bad defensively.

Exabit A: the whole defense is bad defensively. 

Just an unfortunate situation all around. Moore sitting last night too…just not overly sure iwhat’s going on.

But again, these guys are trying to win games. The balance between winnings now and pissing off younger players. If we were better the mental mistakes of young players wouldn’t be that big of a deal.

[jk]

1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said:

There's always a silver lining to a playoff loss....ammirite?

Hopefully BB rolls out the same chosen few. Seems to have worked so far for 36 games. Why not pound in the final nail tonight?

Nobody's happy about losing, but yes, I would continue to roll Ness, Albrecht and Kunz out for their shifts.

[Sweethockey]

8 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:

Just an unfortunate situation all around. Moore sitting last night too…just not overly sure iwhat’s going on.

But again, these guys are trying to win games. The balance between winnings now and pissing off younger players. If we were better the mental mistakes of young players wouldn’t be that big of a deal.

 

8 minutes ago, scpa0305 said:

Just an unfortunate situation all around. Moore sitting last night too…just not overly sure iwhat’s going on.

But again, these guys are trying to win games. The balance between winnings now and pissing off younger players. If we were better the mental mistakes of young players wouldn’t be that big of a deal.

By this point in the season you know who’s playing on which line. By now what chemistry there is has been identified and cultivated. This team reminds me of the Iowa Wild playing. Some talented young guys who have never played with each other trying to showcase themselves. What will the lines be tonight for the last time? Some changes from last night? Guaranteed.

[Username Taken]

7 hours ago, DAR said:

What is wrong with Gavin Hain?  A 5th year senior and he does nothing out there.  Bad move to bring him and Senden back.  Just being honest.

He’s a guy not playing his role because others failed to develop. Ideally senden and hain are playing shutdown roles in the bottom 6 like they have their entire careers here. I think the coaching staff had guys like Constantini and Schmaltz playing top-6 roles and contributing much more on the score sheet. Nobody improved from last year to this year outside of a couple guys (Jandric, Gaber). 

[Oxbow6]

5 minutes ago, Username Taken said:

He’s a guy not playing his role because others failed to develop. Ideally senden and hain are playing shutdown roles in the bottom 6 like they have their entire careers here. I think the coaching staff had guys like Constantini and Schmaltz playing top-6 roles and contributing much more on the score sheet. Nobody improved from last year to this year outside of a couple guys (Jandric, Gaber). 

Tough to develop when you are constantly in and out of the lineup and/or buried in the bottom 6. The amount of minutes some have received in 36 games with marginal positive impact on games is just mind numbing.

[Blackheart]

47 minutes ago, Wilbur said:

Then we got this used car salesman @MafiaMan trying to buy all your Frozen Faceoff tickets.  Quite the final chapter to this book. 

I believe he’s willing to trade NODAK gear for tickets.

[jk]

For all the questions about the lineup at forward and defense, I'm pretty sure if you could sit down with a coach and ask them, they would have very specific reasons for each one, and when you heard them, they would make sense.  But they can't say those things publicly, because they can't be throwing players under the bus.

Along the same lines, they probably have pretty strong ideas on why things went sideways this season.  I'd love to know them, but, again, there's not much they can say without tearing guys down in public.

[SIOUXELEVENS]

No just keep throwing sticks at center ice to pick lines, working so far. Maybe try Johnson at goalie , yea that will do it. 

[Wilbur]

13 minutes ago, SIOUXELEVENS said:

No just keep throwing sticks at center ice to pick lines, working so far. Maybe try Johnson at goalie , yea that will do it. 

Perfect time to put him in.  Then after he gives up 7 we can talk about how great he played. 

[siouxweet]

One more game and then let's turn the page to what could be an interesting off season with player movement. 

[SIOUXELEVENS]

That will give Berry more opportunity to us the portal  then !

[AJS]

34 minutes ago, SIOUXELEVENS said:

That will give Berry more opportunity to us the portal  then !

Couple more weeks also to talk mediocre Seniors into using their 5th years and killing the development for younger players. Cannot wait to see 13 & 28 on the top line next year playing 20 minutes a night.

[AJS]

1 hour ago, jk said:

For all the questions about the lineup at forward and defense, I'm pretty sure if you could sit down with a coach and ask them, they would have very specific reasons for each one, and when you heard them, they would make sense.  But they can't say those things publicly, because they can't be throwing players under the bus.

Along the same lines, they probably have pretty strong ideas on why things went sideways this season.  I'd love to know them, but, again, there's not much they can say without tearing guys down in public.

How’s it working out for them? Honest question, you don’t think the Coaches own any blame for this year? Can Coaches make bad judgement calls? Are all Coaches good at their jobs? 

[Oxbow6]

1 hour ago, jk said:

For all the questions about the lineup at forward and defense, I'm pretty sure if you could sit down with a coach and ask them, they would have very specific reasons for each one, and when you heard them, they would make sense.  But they can't say those things publicly, because they can't be throwing players under the bus.

Along the same lines, they probably have pretty strong ideas on why things went sideways this season.  I'd love to know them, but, again, there's not much they can say without tearing guys down in public.

Instead of throwing players under the bus then tell us what the chosen few were doing so well to keep them in the lineup all season.  I'd like to hear the explanation on four forwards specifically.

[Irish]

1 hour ago, jk said:

For all the questions about the lineup at forward and defense, I'm pretty sure if you could sit down with a coach and ask them, they would have very specific reasons for each one, and when you heard them, they would make sense.  But they can't say those things publicly, because they can't be throwing players under the bus.

Along the same lines, they probably have pretty strong ideas on why things went sideways this season.  I'd love to know them, but, again, there's not much they can say without tearing guys down in public.

Ok - I'll buy that - but we could hear how they are going to correct this mess - are we going to adapt a faster playing style so we can start getting Blue Chippers again and not have them think UND is where offensive skills go to die?   Are we going to clean up the defensive play?  Are we going to address the lack of player development particularly in this last off-season.  Are we going to address the lack of mental toughness that led us to cough up leads right and left, and are we going to actually recruit goalie talent and develop them or is going to just be portal, portal, portal.  These issues could be addressed without throwing anyone under the bus (except maybe the staff).  Or instead are we going to hear about our "culture" some more - you know the one that gave us this fiasco of a season.  

[AJS]

10 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

Instead of throwing players under the bus then tell us what the chosen few were doing so well to keep them in the lineup all season.  I'd like to hear the explanation on four forwards specifically.

I’ll co-sign every one of @Oxbow6 posts about his feelings on roster mismanagement. I would be interested on his explanation on 5 Forwards. 
 

There hasn’t been a season ever even close to this where I genuinely have no idea what the thought process is. Not just about the Chosen Five, but outside of 9 / 17, I feel every other talented forward hasn’t been optimally developed.

 

Edit: Forward specific post. Clearly same questions on defense as well although they’ve played well down the stretch.

[siouxforce19]

34 minutes ago, AJS said:

I’ll co-sign every one of @Oxbow6 posts about his feelings on roster mismanagement. I would be interested on his explanation on 5 Forwards. 
 

There hasn’t been a season ever even close to this where I genuinely have no idea what the thought process is. Not just about the Chosen Five, but outside of 9 / 17, I feel every other talented forward hasn’t been optimally developed.

 

Edit: Forward specific post. Clearly same questions on defense as well although they’ve played well down the stretch.

9 and 17 were good when they got here so I don’t even know how much they’ve even “developed.” Which considering I don’t think there’s been much, if any development of the other forwards, is really sad. 

[jk]

42 minutes ago, AJS said:

How’s it working out for them? Honest question, you don’t think the Coaches own any blame for this year? Can Coaches make bad judgement calls? Are all Coaches good at their jobs? 

It's either the coaches or it's the players, but the coaches picked the players, so ultimately a poor season is entirely on the coaches.  I pull for all the coaches and all the players, all of whom are giving everything they have and living this adventure 100 times more than the fans in the stands.  

As to whether coaches can make bad judgement calls, as it relates to the lineup, of course they can.  However, we are not in a position to make that judgement, because we don't have all the information they have.  In fact, we probably don't have 10% of the information they do.  We see a player play for 30 minutes in a weekend.  They see them for hours and hours each week.  It would be like a blind person arguing about a painting with someone who can see it (apologies to any offended blind people).  

As to roster construction last summer, we're coming off a period of years where Duluth and Mankato have thrived with older players.  UND was returning most of a conference title team, and adding (or retaining) some older players, men, really, to push around some of the boys on the other teams, seemed sensible.  If they had not done that and this season had gone similarly sideways, I'm certain the complaints would be that they missed the chance to be older and heavier and if only they would have retained the fifth year guys, it would have worked.

I would love to know why they made certain decisions, but rather than think they're just stupid or I know better, I realize that I don't have access to their information.

It's ultimately about results, and this is a big year coming up.  Considering the likely returning roster and the pipeline, I'm very excited about the forwards, and concerned about the defense and goaltending.  I personally prefer a bigger goalie, so I hope they go that way.

[90siouxfan]

Sorry my presence didn't inspire the team to victory.  I will watch a basketball game for penance. I saw green players getting out muscled, thrown around...  is Poolman still with the program?

[MafiaMan]

Brad Berry getting set to put “OLD NODAK” out of its 2022-2023 misery later tonight…

[gfhockey]

Have we never been excited about our pipeline? Look at the rsukts

[MafiaMan]

3 hours ago, Wilbur said:

This series has the feel of Denver from a few years back.  Foreign goalie plays well against a team that isn't that close knit (Ask Nick Jones how he got a concussion) and the season is mercifully put to an end.

Then we got this used car salesman @MafiaMan trying to buy all your Frozen Faceoff tickets.  Quite the final chapter to this book. 

Tell ya what, @Wilbur, I’ll take those regional tickets off your hands for you for free if you toss in a $50 gas allowance and a 3-night hotel stay in Fargo.

[ksl_sioux4ever]

For about 45 seconds on the ice during the third between shifts 19 was on the ice with 9 and 17. They had multiple great chances as 19 won the puck and fed both 9 and 17. I'm surprised coach didn't notice that and roll that a couple more times. Seem to work then. 

[90siouxfan]

1 hour ago, gfhockey said:

Have we never been excited about our pipeline? Look at the rsukts

Not ready for jibberish yet this morning...  but I am less concerned with pipeline and/or freshman class as much as what happens to them after they get here....  something stinks...

[Wilbur]

58 minutes ago, MafiaMan said:

Tell ya what, @Wilbur, I’ll take those regional tickets off your hands for you for free if you toss in a $50 gas allowance and a 3-night hotel stay in Fargo.

My couch is open, do we wear our Nodak jerseys amongst all the gopher fans?