zonadub Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I know it is water under the bridge at this point, but watching what DeBoer is doing at Washington or Vigen is doing at Montana State, you will never convince me that a team has to take a backwards step when there is a coaching change. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, zonadub said: I know it is water under the bridge at this point, but watching what DeBoer is doing at Washington or Vigen is doing at Montana State, you will never convince me that a team has to take a backwards step when there is a coaching change. And I'll bet those student-athletes are building life-long relationships and learning life lessons while also winning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxBoys Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 30 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: So it's no different than high school athletics? That is the attitude holding FB and other programs back. You may be satisfied with 6-5 and 7-4 seasons with an occasional playoff appearance sprinkled in, but I think we are capable of so much more. Can you please point out to me a single time they said they were satisfied with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, SiouxBoys said: Can you please point out to me a single time they said they were satisfied with that? It's the general attitude: We lost, bad game.....but they're just "student-athletes", so we should just move on. You have to read between the lines to see it, but it is there. @UND-FB-FAN is right: We have been conditioned to accept slightly-above .500 football seasons as the best we can hope for. And I honestly think we can do much better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Hans8891 said: As we have all year, I expect we will play well at home, and I hope we have our full compliment of fans tailgating to support them. We will certainly be there. We do, however, need to learn from these very very bad road losses. One, the coaches need to have the team prepared and ready to play on the road. That has clearly not happened. 2, if something isn’t working, adjustments have to be made. I wish all of these could happen too, but we all know we lost several attendees by losing yesterday (major momentum killer coming off the NDSU win) and why would the coaches just figure out the road issues now? It’s been an issue for years. It will continue to be an issue under this leadership structure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 UND is like 23-2 in last 25 at the Alerus. So what does that make Bubba’s career road record. I think Bubba is afraid to win on the road and make another coach look bad in front of their crowd. Like I said, all the work against NDSU means nothing if you don’t follow it up. Well… Not having the team ready is on the coaches, starting at the top. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: I think Bubba is afraid to win on the road and make another coach look bad in front of their crowd. Certainly not a good quality or perspective to have if you’re a head football coach. It really is just baffling (and honestly embarrassing) how different the team is between home and away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: UND is like 23-2 in last 25 at the Alerus. So what does that make Bubba’s career road record. I think Bubba is afraid to win on the road and make another coach look bad in front of their crowd. Like I said, all the work against NDSU means nothing if you don’t follow it up. Well… Not having the team ready is on the coaches, starting at the top. UND's road record under Bubba....18-37 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwestern Hawk Posted October 23, 2023 Author Share Posted October 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, Siouxperfan7 said: UND's road record under Bubba....18-37 So many big game "debacles" over the last decade on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND Football Fan Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Comparison to last 25 home and 25 away games. 23-2 Home last 25 6-19 Away last 25. of those 6 wins only Youngstown 7-4 had a winning record. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, UND Football Fan said: Comparison to last 25 home and 25 away games. 23-2 Home last 25 6-19 Away last 25. of those 6 wins only Youngstown 7-4 had a winning record. That is the problem right there in a nutshell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Well at least one recruit hasn't run away. https://x.com/asher_jenkins/status/1716194095943598103?s=20 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 31 minutes ago, UND Football Fan said: Comparison to last 25 home and 25 away games. 23-2 Home last 25 6-19 Away last 25. of those 6 wins only Youngstown 7-4 had a winning record. Is Bubbas best road win against then #5 Sam Houston who finished 6-5? 0 road wins against teams who made the playoffs? Do I have that straight? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F'n Hawks Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Is Bubbas best road win against then #5 Sam Houston who finished 6-5? 0 road wins against teams who made the playoffs? Do I have that straight? I believe you would be right. Wyoming ended up 2-10 in 2015 so that win isn’t impressive either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND Football Fan Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Is Bubbas best road win against then #5 Sam Houston who finished 6-5? 0 road wins against teams who made the playoffs? Do I have that straight? I only went to last 25 for comparison so I did not include Sam Houston and yes no playoff teams. Most losses were FBS or teams with winning records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux>Bison Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 11 hours ago, iramurphy said: Boosters/fans don’t make decisions (nor should they).They certainly can create pressure on the decision makers if they organize and provide enough of the necessary resources that would create a significant hardship if withheld or create important opportunities if given. Exactly boosters or fans with no $$$$ to influence a decision are going to get a say in the coaching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux>Bison Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Evrokeeps blaming Bubba but it’s the offense that has had a big part in the 3 losses this year. When do we start shifting the blame to Danny? Does he really have no answer to UNI or a bad Boise team? Why won’t he move on from Tommy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 10 hours ago, shep said: Well at least one recruit hasn't run away. https://x.com/asher_jenkins/status/1716194095943598103?s=20 Are you claiming we are losing recruits based on this season, or the previous game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 10 hours ago, shep said: Well at least one recruit hasn't run away. https://x.com/asher_jenkins/status/1716194095943598103?s=20 Why would recruits run away?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Others were claiming that the results on Saturday may cause loss of recruits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 18-37 under Bubba 6-19 last 25 Gino Gasparini used to preach "win at home; split on the road". 23-2 (last 25 home) is "win at home". The other part, not so much. Split the road would be 27-28 (or 12-13 last 25). A just 27-28 road mark (vs 18-37) would be about one more win for each of Bubba's ten seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Give any reason you'd like, but the one that is indefensible is Bubba's teams being so bad on the road. 23-2 Home 6-19 Road Jekyll and Hyde There's 50 games, 5 seasons, roster turnover. What's consistent through the time period. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 11 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: 0 road wins against teams who made the playoffs? Do I have that straight? That needed repeating. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, shep said: Others were claiming that the results on Saturday may cause loss of recruits. Sources? Your thoughts on any recruit that is so shaky they would decommit after one loss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 Currently 15/17 in the national polls at 4-3. An important note, the highest 3 loss team in either poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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