siouxfan512 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 16 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: holy crap....wtf they really really need to add THE UND to their conference....... Even bringing back the old WCHA wouldn't fix the issues they have at the U, and it isn't lack of talent. I still don't get how they recruit high end kids to play in front of empty seats like that. There are too many other events in town, and the ticket prices are way overpriced. If they lowered the prices they might actually sell more. Though people definitely don't care as much about Big Ten matchups as they did about the old WCHA rivalries. Growing up as a huge huge gopher fan when I was a kid, and going to the games when it was just packed and rowdy (all the way back to Williams Arena), its pretty sad to see how bad it has gotten. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 minute ago, stoneySIOUX said: Ditto and it's honestly not that close. I'll never understand anyone who says the rivalry is gone. They clearly haven't watched/listened to/felt the crowd energy around these games recently. Just like the whiny NDSU fans that want to pretend we don't have a rivalry anymore. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 10 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: money money and maybe some Thursday 4 pm games, and we would get to play Ohio St instead of Denver. Intriguing ..... Unless you got a full invite, which would never happen, I'm not interested. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 17 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: they really really need to add THE UND to their conference....... They can't afford us. Before you misunderstand, I mean UND would need to make some stern demands, and get them all, before becoming a BTHC affiliate, namely: - full autonomy on home game start times - full rights to television on home games (for Midco contract) - full share of hockey BTN television revenues (as if not affiliate but as full B1G member, but just for hockey TV revenues; no partial shares because "affiliate") - full share of other B1G Hockey generated revenues - guarantee that for first five seasons as affiliate, UND Hockey revenues (inflation adjusted) at par or exceed last non-BTHC season (B1G to make whole if shortfall) - guaranteed scheduling agreements in other sports (MBB, WBB, FB, etc) meaning X games every Y seasons against someone in the B1G, including 20% of X being in Grand Forks Otherwise, let Mariucci and Kohl sit empty and collect dust. PS - The day that happens my office will be 300 Twamley and @PCMwill be my press secretary. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 11 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: money What makes you think the Little 7 would make it worth our while? They would want us for our fan base, arena and tradition. But they would offer us pennies on the dollar for revenue because we aren't a "full member" of their precious conference. That is when we would tell the Little 7 to go pound sand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux rube Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 17 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: holy crap....wtf they really really need to add THE UND to their conference....... F that 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxfan512 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 57 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: They can't afford us. Before you misunderstand, I mean UND would need to make some stern demands, and get them all, before becoming a BTHC affiliate, namely: - full autonomy on home game start times - full rights to television on home games (for Midco contract) - full share of hockey BTN television revenues (as if not affiliate but as full B1G member, but just for hockey TV revenues; no partial shares because "affiliate") - full share of other B1G Hockey generated revenues - guarantee that for first five seasons as affiliate, UND Hockey revenues (inflation adjusted) at par or exceed last non-BTHC season (B1G to make whole if shortfall) - guaranteed scheduling agreements in other sports (MBB, WBB, FB, etc) meaning X games every Y seasons against someone in the B1G, including 20% of X being in Grand Forks Otherwise, let Mariucci and Kohl sit empty and collect dust. PS - The day that happens my office will be 300 Twamley and @PCMwill be my press secretary. Can you just negotiate full membership while you are at it? Then we can beat the gopher, pound the badgers, take their money, and laugh at the Bison playing football at their little FCS level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, siouxfan512 said: Can you just negotiate full membership while you are at it? We don't have the secret handshake. (Nebraska had it, lost it, but stays on anyway.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 As for hockey, that team is still loaded, but they just haven't put it all together yet. They have three defensemen from last year's US WJC team and added a top freshman forward. Oddly enough the biggest weakness has been their returning stud goalie. UND should benefit from having just seen a quick, tight-checking team like Duluth. They'll need to play like they did last Saturday. Given each team's off-season losses and additions, this was supposed to be the year MN turned the tables on UND. We'll see this weekend if that is the case, or if UND's recent diet of NCHC opponents has them prepared to put up a fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboys5xsbs Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said: What makes you think the Little 7 would make it worth our while? They would want us for our fan base, arena and tradition. But they would offer us pennies on the dollar for revenue because we aren't a "full member" of their precious conference. That is when we would tell the Little 7 to go pound sand. The big10 brand name attached to und is a huge thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Siouxperfan7 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 I assume we are wearing the new Nodak jerseys this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, cowboys5xsbs said: The big10 brand name attached to und is a huge thing. Brand names don't pay the bills. Not if we are getting pennies on the dollar for the revenues we are helping to generate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Godsmack Posted November 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2021 Schlossman did a podcast with Ben Holden a number of months ago and this topic came up in a round about way. He said that even though a school such as Ohio State-which arguably has one of the largest athletic budgets and biggest name recognition in the country and could squash a school like a UND, St. Cloud, or Duluth in this regard-doesn’t draw fans at Minnesota and probably wouldn’t at UND the way existing rivals, and much smaller legacy WCHA schools with less name recognition is the years and in some cases, decades that these rivalries have been nurtured and grown. Not sure if I’m sharing any new insight but it was interesting to hear Brad’s take on this. I personally would much rather see a UND/SCSU, UND/DU, or a UND/UMD series than UND vs Penn State, Ohio State, Notre Dame, etc. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxnatty#8 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 22 hours ago, farce poobah said: Two months ago, if you told me UND would be sitting #2 in Pairwise and Minnesota at #20, I'd have asked for a shot of whatever you're drinking. https://www.collegehockeynews.com/ratings/pairwise/ Key this weekend will be keeping our heads. If we play them 5x5 for 60 minutes, and don't take extra penalties or lose a key D or F, I like our chances. Anything less than a sweep will be devistating for our pairwise assuming the gophers stay on their current trajectory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, siouxnatty#8 said: Anything less than a sweep will be devistating for our pairwise assuming the gophers stay on their current trajectory. Devastating might be a bit aggressive, but I do think the Penn State loss does put even more emphasis on this weekend. Given the unknown health situation of this team, I'd be satisfied with a split. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 1 minute ago, AJS said: Devastating might be a bit aggressive, but I do think the Penn State loss does put even more emphasis on this weekend. Given the unknown health situation of this team, I'd be satisfied with a split. Exactly. It is hard to judge who needs this series more. If we would lose three to Big Ten teams it could really damage our pairwise. Minnesota sure could use wins against the NCHC as well. Bottom line for UND is to learn from their losses to Penn State and Duluth, and stay out of the box. I believe Minnesota mustered the split with Penn State by converting on a 5 on 3. UND has to treat this series as critical to their NCAA tourney hopes. I don't want to be talking after Friday night that UND needs to learn another lesson as to staying out of the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 I'll save every regional sportscaster the trouble ... "You can throw out the records when these two meet. They just don't like each other." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvdebbies Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Right now we are in the #devasting portion of the season. Up next, #mustwin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 Just now, iluvdebbies said: Right now we are in the #devasting portion of the season. Up next, #mustwin. When is #NoMarginForError? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 We know that all of the Minnesotans and North Dakotans on Minnesota and UND know the importance of this series, let's hope the UND coaches and leadership can show some clips to express to the rest of the guys what this series means to the season, pairwise importance notwithstanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux rube Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 39 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: When is #NoMarginForError? That will come in January would be my guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted November 22, 2021 Author Share Posted November 22, 2021 30 minutes ago, sioux rube said: That will come in January would be my guess < marks calendar > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsmack Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 2 hours ago, tnt said: Exactly. It is hard to judge who needs this series more. If we would lose three to Big Ten teams it could really damage our pairwise. Minnesota sure could use wins against the NCHC as well. Bottom line for UND is to learn from their losses to Penn State and Duluth, and stay out of the box. I believe Minnesota mustered the split with Penn State by converting on a 5 on 3. UND has to treat this series as critical to their NCAA tourney hopes. I don't want to be talking after Friday night that UND needs to learn another lesson as to staying out of the box. Do you think the Gophers will take a page out of the Friday game against Duluth and try to bait us into taking dumb, ill-advised penalties as a strategy to beat us and minimize playing us five on five? -I can’t speak to the Penn State game as I didn’t watch it but it sounded like we took too many penalties in that game too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas_Sioux Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 6 hours ago, siouxfan512 said: Can you just negotiate full membership while you are at it? Then we can beat the gopher, pound the badgers, take their money, and laugh at the Bison playing football at their little FCS level Play for the golden sugar beet every year in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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