Bison06 Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: jfk your assuming so so so much........ What imaginary criteria are you using to justify that they wouldn’t? The final FBS rankings would agree with me.
Bison06 Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: I’m aware. That’s where I think the P5 incest theory would apply. They were ranked fairly high, but safely outside of the P5 circle jerk. There’s bound to be a break through from time to time though. Don’t disagree, but 4/7 years is pretty often. Especially given they’ve proven with Cincy this year they even in a four team tournament they let in a G5
SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Bison06 said: What imaginary criteria are you using to justify that they wouldn’t? The final FBS rankings would agree with me. this conversation is the reason why people hate bizon fans so much.... "If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas"
SIOUXFAN97 Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Bison06 said: Don’t disagree, but 4/7 years is pretty often. Especially given they’ve proven with Cincy this year they even in a four team tournament they let in a G5 if your invited to a swanky dinner party and you shart yourself a second time (notre dame) they aint inviting you back....in cincy's case one shart is enough.
Bison06 Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: this conversation is the reason why people hate bizon fans so much.... "If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas" I guess the final FBS rankings don’t carry as much weight as SIOUXFAN97 in your world. Carry on. 1
geaux_sioux Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Don’t disagree, but 4/7 years is pretty often. Especially given they’ve proven with Cincy this year they even in a four team tournament they let in a G5 Not to change gears from this enthralling discussion… but I have a question. In my opinion this was NDSUs second worst title team in the FCS era. Thinking about their roster next year I don’t see a great RB stable and I don’t see proven dynamic wrs. Add to that, we know the qbs aren’t good. I’m wondering what you see for the team next year. I think they need some unknown guys to really step up. Kinda have to assume they will given recent history. 1
Hawkster Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: this conversation is the reason why people hate bizon fans so much.... "If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas" I agree!!! I know it's the off season so there's not much to discuss but the Bison fans can go crow about their success somewhere else. 1
UND08 Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, geaux_sioux said: Not to change gears from this enthralling discussion… but I have a question. In my opinion this was NDSUs second worst title team in the FCS era. Thinking about their roster next year I don’t see a great RB stable and I don’t see proven dynamic wrs. Add to that, we know the qbs aren’t good. I’m wondering what you see for the team next year. I think they need some unknown guys to really step up. Kinda have to assume they will given recent history. Not an NDSU guy at all...but look in the trenches and that'll tell you how things will go for them. I have no reason to believe that they'll be any worse...but I'm pretty uninformed!
Bison06 Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Not to change gears from this enthralling discussion… but I have a question. In my opinion this was NDSUs second worst title team in the FCS era. Thinking about their roster next year I don’t see a great RB stable and I don’t see proven dynamic wrs. Add to that, we know the qbs aren’t good. I’m wondering what you see for the team next year. I think they need some unknown guys to really step up. Kinda have to assume they will given recent history. Right now I wouldn’t be very helpful in that discussion. Been busy with life and haven’t been as plugged in as usual to the young guys coming through the pipeline.
geaux_sioux Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Right now I wouldn’t be very helpful in that discussion. Been busy with life and haven’t been as plugged in as usual to the young guys coming through the pipeline. Wow, what a loser. Having a life? Psh. Bison fans look down their chins at you. 2
Bison06 Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 1 minute ago, geaux_sioux said: Wow, what a loser. Having a life? Psh. Bison fans look down their chins at you. Lol
Hayduke1 Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 5 hours ago, Bison06 said: How they competed is not part of this discussion in the slightest. However if you watched the game, I thought Cincinnati competed incredibly well. Did you watch the game or just look at the score? And... FBS playoffs will expand. Too much money on the table not to expand.
bison73 Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 9 hours ago, Sioux>Bison said: A G5 NDSU is going to be able to keep those recruits that they lost to Minnesota and Wisconsin compared to the FCS NDSU? More scholarships will give you more depth but having more of them isn’t going to automatically going to help you recruit elite P5 talent. Agree. That will come in time.
jdub27 Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 49 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said: And... FBS playoffs will expand. Too much money on the table not to expand. When? That was the message a few weeks ago and now everyone finds out there is nothing even close to an agreement? And when it does, multiple G 5 teams still aren't going to get in.
Hammersmith Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 17 minutes ago, jdub27 said: When? That was the message a few weeks ago and now everyone finds out there is nothing even close to an agreement? And when it does, multiple G 5 teams still aren't going to get in. When the current contract expires. All the talk recently was about modifying the current contract before it expires. Which was always ridiculous because modifying a current contract requires unanimous agreement of all parties. No way that was going to happen. But creating a new contract is about balance of power and it looks like the power brokers want a playoff expansion. They'll just have to wait until after 2025.
UND1983 Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 More like it centers around what Craig Thompson wants. He holds all the cards, so I was told 1
Sioux>Bison Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 7 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: Not to change gears from this enthralling discussion… but I have a question. In my opinion this was NDSUs second worst title team in the FCS era. Thinking about their roster next year I don’t see a great RB stable and I don’t see proven dynamic wrs. Add to that, we know the qbs aren’t good. I’m wondering what you see for the team next year. I think they need some unknown guys to really step up. Kinda have to assume they will given recent history. And even with the Bison having a down year they still only lost one game and won the title. Talk about a down year!!!! The Bison were a completely different team in the first and second half of the season. They actually got back to Bison form just in time for the playoffs. Wasn’t any doubt from me what was going to happen this post season. It’s like Minot High stomping all of the little class A division schools. Not a contest.
Sioux>Bison Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 7 hours ago, UND08 said: Not an NDSU guy at all...but look in the trenches and that'll tell you how things will go for them. I have no reason to believe that they'll be any worse...but I'm pretty uninformed! Can they play that style of football every week in the FBS and be successful? Honest question I don’t know of any past FBS teams that play like the Bison…..
jdub27 Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 11 hours ago, Hammersmith said: When the current contract expires. All the talk recently was about modifying the current contract before it expires. Which was always ridiculous because modifying a current contract requires unanimous agreement of all parties. No way that was going to happen. But creating a new contract is about balance of power and it looks like the power brokers want a playoff expansion. They'll just have to wait until after 2025. And what about that guarantees a G5 team a spot at the table? The P5 can point to Cincy this year and say "if they are worthy, they can get it on their own merit". I'm not saying it is out of the realm of possibilities, just pointing out there is zero guarantees. The P5 isn't going to share any more than they have to. And you might want to mention to some media in Fargo how "ridiculous" it was. They hammered home pretty hard that a deal was going to be made, reality be damned. Many a rants were based on that line of thinking.
UND08 Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 10 hours ago, Sioux>Bison said: Can they play that style of football every week in the FBS and be successful? Honest question I don’t know of any past FBS teams that play like the Bison….. That wasn't the question I answered...it was "how will they be next year?" As to your question...As far as FBS goes...I have a feeling that so long as they maintain their speed/strength advantage over an opponent...they'll be fine. To me they look a lot like Michigan (albeit Michigan is a higher level team). Michigan was pretty dang good this year...until they ran into Georgia! If the talent level is equal or better...NDSU will win most of their games (given 22 more scholarships). Pretty generic answer...I know. But football boils down to talent and athleticism. NDSU generally has more of it than the opponents they line up against due to superior recruiting and player development.
Kab Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 49 minutes ago, jdub27 said: And what about that guarantees a G5 team a spot at the table? The P5 can point to Cincy this year and say "if they are worthy, they can get it on their own merit". I'm not saying it is out of the realm of possibilities, just pointing out there is zero guarantees. The P5 isn't going to share any more than they have to. And you might want to mention to some media in Fargo how "ridiculous" it was. They hammered home pretty hard that a deal was going to be made, reality be damned. Many a rants were based on that line of thinking. I see Cincy is preseason about 11 or 12 for next year. They still have to play the games. I don’t see too many g5 teams making a 12 team playoff. the bison love Corso, ask him what he thinks of g5 teams, they won’t like the answer
Shawn-O Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Kab said: I see Cincy is preseason about 11 or 12 for next year. They still have to play the games. I don’t see too many g5 teams making a 12 team playoff. the bison love Corso, ask him what he thinks of g5 teams, they won’t like the answer Several 12-team proposals have an auto-bid going to the top ranked G5, which is an idea that I like.
geaux_sioux Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, Shawn-O said: Several 12-team proposals have an auto-bid going to the top ranked G5, which is an idea that I like. Some years that team would be ranked around 18th. I won’t hold my breath on G5 getting thrown a bone like that. So would the top team from each P5 get an autobid in this scenario?
Kab Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, Shawn-O said: Several 12-team proposals have an auto-bid going to the top ranked G5, which is an idea that I like. Until there is RPI for football sections are at the discretion of a committee, unless auto bids like basketball
Shawn-O Posted January 19, 2022 Posted January 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Some years that team would be ranked around 18th. I won’t hold my breath on G5 getting thrown a bone like that. So would the top team from each P5 get an autobid in this scenario? In a 12-team format there's no question all P5 champions would receive autobids.
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