bison73 Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, geaux_sioux said: A 12 team FBS tournament would be a joke. How many teams per year have a legit shot? Maximum 3-5 I would say. Rarely more than 3. The only way this happens is if the politicians get involved---again. Its the only reason we moved on from the original formats.
Kab Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 Izzy wants this for himself to make him look important reporting on fbs games
homer Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 The fact that Dom bases his whole argument on “if” FU was in the Mountain West and “if” they went 12-1 and “if” they won the conference title game and “if” the playoffs was at 12 teams “than” they would have been considered for a playoff spot is comical. The amount of FU fans eating that up and using it as a “valid” argument on why they need to move up is even more funny. literally any FCS team could make that argument cause it’s all hypothetical. also Dom, the commissioner of the Mountain West will leave the table when the P5 commissioners tell him/her the meeting is done. Not when he/she gets their demands met. 3
Bison06 Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, homer said: The fact that Dom bases his whole argument on “if” FU was in the Mountain West and “if” they went 12-1 and “if” they won the conference title game and “if” the playoffs was at 12 teams “than” they would have been considered for a playoff spot is comical. The amount of FU fans eating that up and using it as a “valid” argument on why they need to move up is even more funny. literally any FCS team could make that argument cause it’s all hypothetical. also Dom, the commissioner of the Mountain West will leave the table when the P5 commissioners tell him/her the meeting is done. Not when he/she gets their demands met. So which is it? Should NDSU stop being a Varsity team beating up on JV teams or imagine and speculate on a successful future with a hypothetical move to FBS.
homer Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 24 minutes ago, Bison06 said: So which is it? Should NDSU stop being a Varsity team beating up on JV teams or imagine and speculate on a successful future with a hypothetical move to FBS. I don’t give a !@#$ what you do. Trying to validate it to the common fan with 5 “ifs” in a scenario is funny don’t you agree. None of what he layed out in his scenario could have happened this year but in FUs fans minds they are now tied to Georgia and would have been in the FBS playoffs 2
Bison06 Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, homer said: I don’t give a !@#$ what you do. Trying to validate it to the common fan with 5 “ifs” in a scenario is funny don’t you agree. None of what he layed out in his scenario could have happened this year but in FUs fans minds they are now tied to Georgia and would have been in the FBS playoffs You don’t give a !@#$ what we do, yet here you are criticizing what writers and fans are doing. For someone who doesn’t give a !@#$ what we do, you’re talking a hell of a lot about it.
SiouxBoys Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Bison06 said: You don’t give a !@#$ what we do, yet here you are criticizing what writers and fans are doing. For someone who doesn’t give a !@#$ what we do, you’re talking a hell of a lot about it. It's completely possible to not give a !@#$ what you do, while also pointing out how stupid your what ifs and hypotheticals are. 1
petey23 Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 51 minutes ago, Bison06 said: So which is it? Should NDSU stop being a Varsity team beating up on JV teams or imagine and speculate on a successful future with a hypothetical move to FBS. Entirely up to NDSU. Move up for a chance to play for 1st and bowl games or stay in FCS and keep playing for 131st. 1
Bison06 Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said: It's completely possible to not give a !@#$ what you do, while also pointing out how stupid your what ifs and hypotheticals are. Actually I’m not sure it is.
SiouxBoys Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Bison06 said: Actually I’m not sure it is. What Dom Izzo said is stupid and his butthurt rant about "UND Rubes" calling him out was hilarious. I also don't give a !@#$ what NDSU does. There, I proved it.
homer Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, Bison06 said: You don’t give a !@#$ what we do, yet here you are criticizing what writers and fans are doing. For someone who doesn’t give a !@#$ what we do, you’re talking a hell of a lot about it. Lol. One post is a lot is it?? The fact you are even arguing a pretty deep “what if” scenario is equally as funny. If FU was in the MOuntain West and if they would have gone 12-1 in the regular season and and if they would have won their conference championship game if the FBS had a 12 team playoff than I suppose FU fans and Don are right, they would have been considered for the playoffs. Reality is none of that happened and every FCS team could make the same argument. Instead of throwing a pity party of “ifs” move up.
shep Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Bison06 said: I’ve never been behind the idea that the only purpose of a tournament is to declare a champion. I find just as much interest in matchups along the way. Take March Madness as an example. Of course, crowning a champion is ultimately the purpose, but look at the teams that claim multiple sweet 16 finishes, Elite 8 finishes, Final Four appearances. The romanticism that comes from a small school lining up against a big school, regardless of outcome. I think college football has always missed this point. They’ve only ever cared about one thing, who’s the best. They miss half the equation with this line of thinking IMO. I want a 12 team playoff for the reasons you suggest. If ONE underdog wins in the first round it's the sports news biggest story for the whole week and the beauty of it is, it's very possible. But I disagree that the only thing the NCAA cares about is "who's the best." The NCAA cares ONLY about money and a 12 team playoff makes more money than a 4 team. 1
homer Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Actually I’m not sure it is. It is.
F'n Hawks Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 33 minutes ago, homer said: I don’t give a !@#$ what you do. Trying to validate it to the common fan with 5 “ifs” in a scenario is funny don’t you agree. None of what he layed out in his scenario could have happened this year but in FUs fans minds they are now tied to Georgia and would have been in the FBS playoffs The fact that he tried to explain his tweet with 5 “if” statements is very laughable. I kind of get his point but it’s a stupid argument and it deserved the backlash it got. 1
Bison06 Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, homer said: It is. Maybe I’m different than you, but things I don’t give a !@#$ about don’t get posted about. They actually don’t even enter my mind. The act of posting shows you have an opinion about it, which by definition is giving a !@#$.
Bison06 Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, homer said: Lol. One post is a lot is it?? The fact you are even arguing a pretty deep “what if” scenario is equally as funny. If FU was in the MOuntain West and if they would have gone 12-1 in the regular season and and if they would have won their conference championship game if the FBS had a 12 team playoff than I suppose FU fans and Don are right, they would have been considered for the playoffs. Reality is none of that happened and every FCS team could make the same argument. Instead of throwing a pity party of “ifs” move up. I’m not arguing the hypothetical scenario. Only defending the idea of speculating about FBS football for ndsu as a general statement. What else are you going to write about if you’re Dom Izzo? As annoying as it is to outsiders, ndsu winning 9/11 I’m sure makes it hard to find something interesting to write about if your him or think about if you’re a fan.
SiouxBoys Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Bison06 said: Maybe I’m different than you, but things I don’t give a !@#$ about don’t get posted about. They actually don’t even enter my mind. The act of posting shows you have an opinion about it, which by definition is giving a !@#$. Weird way of admitting that you are much more simple-minded than most people.
Bison06 Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, SiouxBoys said: Weird way of admitting that you are much more simple-minded than most people. I’ll take simple, the world is full of fools complicating things.
SiouxBoys Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 Just now, Bison06 said: I’ll take simple, the world is full of fools complicating things. Dom Izzo being one of them.
Bison06 Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 Just now, SiouxBoys said: Dom Izzo being one of them. You may be right, but per my post above, what would you write about if you’re in his position? Gotta be tough. Hypothetical FBS scenarios clearly is something driving readership. Here we are discussing it right? Looks like Dom did his job well to me.
USTBench Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 3 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: A 12 team FBS tournament would be a joke. How many teams per year have a legit shot? Maximum 3-5 I would say. Rarely more than 3. You can say that about a lot of levels of college football. Mount Union was impossible to beat until UW-Whitewater and UMHB came along. There has been decent runs in DII with North Alabama, NWMSU and GVSU. FCS...well, there's that. And FBS has Bama as the perennial team to beat, but every few years someone figures it out. I don't think it would be a joke and 12 teams would make the playoff way more meaningful and inclusive. Who doesn't love an underdog? loved seeing Cincinnati get a chance, and honestly, they didn't fair any worse than other P5 schools or Notre Dame in years past. That said, Izzo calling UND fans "rubes" is pretty rich. They've never played a full FBS schedule. They'd fair okay in the Mountain West, but let's not get ahead of ourselves here. 1
SiouxBoys Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 Just now, Bison06 said: You may be right, but per my post above, what would you write about if you’re in his position? Gotta be tough. Hypothetical FBS scenarios clearly is something driving readership. Here we are discussing it right? Looks like Dom did his job well to me. So Dom's job is to post outlandish things and get people talking about it? So, he's literally no better than a tabloid writer?
Bison06 Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 Just now, SiouxBoys said: So Dom's job is to post outlandish things and get people talking about it? So, he's literally no better than a tabloid writer? Welcome to journalism in 2022. Clicks and views, nothing more.
homer Posted January 12, 2022 Posted January 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, Bison06 said: I’ll take simple, the world is full of fools complicating things. Is defending a “what if” scenario really simple minded? Simple minded would be one if. “if” we want to be considered for that playoff, than we need to move up.
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