UND1983 Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 39 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said: God, you're an idiot. To sum it up - hillbilly Takeaduke1 guy thinks hispanics, whites and native americans are racist against blacks. Blacks are racist against nobody. 1
Frozen4sioux Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 49 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: From the link above about 1 hour ago. Based on their findings, the researchers from the University of Pennsylvania wrote that they "cannot recommend the routine use of hydroxychloroquine" among health care workers to prevent Covid-19. Yes, I wish I was shocked you can't understand this. Read for understanding. The studybwas purposely done to look at the effectiveness of Hydrochloroquine as a Prevent measure. Which was never suggested, it was and is used as a treatment option. You cited a study that was equivalent to the National Institute of rRedundant Rediculousness findings that water is in fact wet. Then you attempted to equate a relevance of said study to attempt to slander thebadorangeman and reinforce your sheepled hatred. Again its an absolute nothingburger. Other than the public University who used public tax funding to deliberately propriate a misleading headline. Which was the intent all along.
Redneksioux Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said: To show as an example to the millions of mislead Americans that it was a safe option that would not kill you as the libral screaming fear factory played it out to just to oppose Orangemanbad This isn't hard to understand. It has been proven to be an unsafe option and not even an effective option used as a profylactic. And why was he taking it to prevent becoming infected while telling the country Covid is nothing more than a minor cough? 1
TheFlop Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, BIGSIOUX said: Most studies are blinded, so the researchers dont know who is getting what specific treatment. Only when there is negative outcomes do they intervene early in a trial. Let's hope that is truly the way it always works but also let's not pretend that it doesn't hurt to know someone even in the holy medical community. After all, a deathbed alcoholic Mickey Mantle got a liver transplant at the snap of a finger over how many other people that were waiting in line?
TheFlop Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Redneksioux said: It has been proven to be an unsafe option and not even an effective option used as a profylactic. And why was he taking it to prevent becoming infected while telling the country Covid is nothing more than a minor cough? Probably because you and your bunker bunch would have wanted to quarantine him indefinitely until there was a 100% effective vaccine.
BIGSIOUX Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, TheFlop said: Let's hope that is truly the way it always works but also let's not pretend that it doesn't hurt to know someone even in the holy medical community. After all, a deathbed alcoholic Mickey Mantle got a liver transplant at the snap of a finger over how many other people that were waiting in line? Liver transplants are not the same thing as research done to determine treatment effectiveness of medications. apples and tomatoes
Redneksioux Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, TheFlop said: Probably because you and your bunker bunch would have wanted to quarantine him indefinitely until there was a 100% effective vaccine. I'm fine with him being left in the wide open like you flop.
TheFlop Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Redneksioux said: I'm fine with him being left in the wide open like you flop. Sure you are........what's with the sudden change in stance on your part? So now you believe that those that are vulnerable or worried can choose to take appropriate actions up to and including staying in their cellar, while those that aren't vulnerable or worried can live life normally? It's been a long summer but I'm happy to see that you have finally made progress.
TheFlop Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, BIGSIOUX said: Liver transplants are not the same thing as research done to determine treatment effectiveness of medications. apples and tomatoes They both involve humans making decisions..... which opens up the process to potential bias....which is where the real problem can potentially be. Apples to apples. So a researcher has never helped a study along or presented it in a slightly misleading manner to ensure that he/she received continued funding?
BIGSIOUX Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 Just now, TheFlop said: They both involve humans making decisions..... which opens up the process to potential bias....which is where the real problem can potentially be. Apples to apples. So a researcher has never helped a study along or presented it in a slightly misleading manner to ensure that he/she received continued funding? Google, Peer reviewed study. Take off tinfoil hat.
The Sicatoka Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, TheFlop said: Insider trading? Insider trading is exactly what most of us common folks don't have. The correct comparison would be that if you saw your mechanic dumping out all of his penzoil oil for an unknown reason.....that one possible explanation is that he knows something that you don't and maybe there is something wrong with Penzoil oil. Your mechanic, plumber, or hair dresser probably isn't wealthy like Buffet (et al) and doesn't have access to insider info. The only high profiler I've seen go to jail for using "knowledge only accessible to the wealthy" was Martha Stewart*. *No not the one that played for CC.
The Sicatoka Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, BIGSIOUX said: Liver transplants are not the same thing as research done to determine treatment effectiveness of medications. apples and tomatoes Um ... both are red fruit. 1 1
Redneksioux Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, TheFlop said: Sure you are........what's with the sudden change in stance on your part? So now you believe that those that are vulnerable or worried can choose to take appropriate actions up to and including staying in their cellar, while those that aren't vulnerable or worried can live life normally? It's been a long summer but I'm happy to see that you have finally made progress. If Covid is truly nothing to be concerned about, why is he so worried about catching it himself?
NDSU grad Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: It has been proven to be an unsafe option and not even an effective option used as a profylactic. And why was he taking it to prevent becoming infected while telling the country Covid is nothing more than a minor cough? About 5.7 million people were prescribed hydroxy chloroquine in 2017. Weird there would be so many prescriptions for a drug ‘proven’ to be unsafe. 1
The Sicatoka Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 Nobody responded to the deaths numbers I put up earlier today from ND DOH. Summary: Five of every eight deaths with Covid in ND were people age 80+ (154 of 247). Average American age of death 78.54 years (source in prior post also).
The Sicatoka Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: If Covid is truly nothing to be concerned about, why is he so worried about catching it himself? Is he, or is his medical team?
TheFlop Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, BIGSIOUX said: Google, Peer reviewed study. Take off tinfoil hat. Ok I did.....and found many articles on how peer reviews are a flawed system that leave plenty of opportunity for bias and/or fraud just like I said. Here is a Nobel Prize winner saying as much. https://retractionwatch.com/2014/03/03/nobel-prize-winner-calls-peer-review-very-distorted-completely-corrupt-and-simply-a-regression-to-the-mean/ https://www.sciencemag.org/careers/2019/05/early-career-researchers-commonly-ghostwrite-peer-reviews-s-problem https://www.statnews.com/2017/04/28/phony-peer-review/ Take off your blinders.
TheFlop Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Nobody responded to the deaths numbers I put up earlier today from ND DOH. Summary: Five of every eight deaths with Covid in ND were people age 80+ (154 of 247). Average American age of death 78.54 years (source in prior post also). And only 6% of ICU beds are currently being used to house sick Covid patients. ICU where the sickest of the sick go.........and only 6% capacity is being used by Covid patients.
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 Mn Senator Amy Klobuchar said goodbye to T after he said he was never coming back to her home state if he failed to Win the election.
UND1983 Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: Mn Senator Amy Klobuchar said goodbye to T after he said he was never coming back to her home state if he failed to Win the election. Of course he is never coming back if he doesn't win the election, why would he?
Oxbow6 Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 35 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Of course he is never coming back if he doesn't win the election, why would he? To roast marshmallows and make Smores from burning buildings following the George Floyd trial??? 2
petey23 Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 1 hour ago, BIGSIOUX said: That is not how medicine works. Unlike most other professions, the medical community shares treatment information if it can be profitable for them, once vetted by the scientific process, for the good of all humans, not just the wealthy ones. FYP
Hayduke1 Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 Well, cultists. Does this also make you proud, boys? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/internal-document-shows-trump-officials-were-told-make-comments-sympathetic-n1241581 Federal law enforcement officials were directed to make public comments sympathetic to Kyle Rittenhouse, the teenager charged with fatally shooting two protesters in Kenosha, Wisconsin, according to internal Department of Homeland Security talking points obtained by NBC News. In preparing Homeland Security officials for questions about Rittenhouse from the media, the document suggests that they note that he "took his rifle to the scene of the rioting to help defend small business owners." 1
BIGSIOUX Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, petey23 said: FYP yep, you got us.... just trying to earn a buck
TheFlop Posted October 1, 2020 Posted October 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hayduke1 said: Well, cultists. Does this also make you proud, boys? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/internal-document-shows-trump-officials-were-told-make-comments-sympathetic-n1241581 Federal law enforcement officials were directed to make public comments sympathetic to Kyle Rittenhouse, the teenager charged with fatally shooting two protesters in Kenosha, Wisconsin, according to internal Department of Homeland Security talking points obtained by NBC News. In preparing Homeland Security officials for questions about Rittenhouse from the media, the document suggests that they note that he "took his rifle to the scene of the rioting to help defend small business owners." Huh.....kind of like officials being directed to make it sound like everything BLM does is peaceful?
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