franchise Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, Wilbur said: How does Tychonick's suit beat Hain's suit? Come on.....time for a review. Dead on on Peski. Late bloomer with a chance to make a lot of money playing hockey. Peski has come so far since his freshman year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franchise Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 8 hours ago, Blackheart said: Anybody have video of UND's overturned goal on Friday? 20200228_214826.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, franchise said: 20200228_214826.mp4 Precedence was set for the series with that call. No way that same crew could wave off that goal but allow the WMU goal last night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsmack Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Anyone have a link to the video of Western’s waived off goal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsh Hall Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Both no goals were the wrong call, but I can’t believe they took away WMU’s goal last night. I was upset the UND goal was disallowed. I would have been absolutely furious if the WMU no-goal had happened to UND. I was surprised that Andy M. kept it together as well as he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Walsh Hall said: Both no goals were the wrong call, but I can’t believe they took away WMU’s goal last night. I was upset the UND goal was disallowed. I would have been absolutely furious if the WMU no-goal had happened to UND. I was surprised that Andy M. kept it together as well as he did. Not disagreeing with your first statement....but the no goal last night was the better call of the 2. Adams did nothing but have half a blade in the blue when the goalie lunged at him. The goalie made a play on the puck. Last night the WMU player had zero chance of not coming into contact with Scheel regardless if there was contact by Guch. No way at his pace would he have avoided contact on his own. Scheel's inability to play the puck was completely limited. Much more so than the play Friday night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 9 hours ago, MDtoGF said: Recap and look ahead, simple with some things to think about for this team in terms of deployment and faceoffs among other things. https://seamoresports.com/2020/03/01/penrosehow-und-earned-2-1-win-over-western-michigan-and-whats-next/ Gooch made contact, but did not directly force the WMU into Scheel. The onus is on the attacking player to avoid the tendy, and rightly so. Otherwise you’d see a ton of guys suddenly weak on their skates in that situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dden3 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 I’ve seen that no goal call last night in many other situations. The call on Friday night not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsh Hall Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 In the overhead angle you can see that the WMU player was not even going to enter the crease. He would have been a good 2 ft outside the crease. Scheel was obviously 100% interfered with and had no chance, but the WMU was pushing into him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaMikeFoxtrot Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 28 minutes ago, Godsmack said: Anyone have a link to the video of Western’s waived off goal? Not the account I expected to post it, but they are mad they don't have a slim chance at the Penrose I suppose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 14 minutes ago, Walsh Hall said: In the overhead angle you can see that the WMU player was not even going to enter the crease. He would have been a good 2 ft outside the crease. Scheel was obviously 100% interfered with and had no chance, but the WMU was pushing into him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiSioux Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 11 hours ago, Cratter said: Lots of ya musta missed it based on the silence around here.... There was a great Jersey Pop tonight by the freshman phenom! Lol I just noticed that watching the replay this morning. Oh Pinto... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsh Hall Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Draw a line on the movement of the WMU player at 30 seconds in that video from the circle to contact with the goalie. He’s moving in a straight line which would be outside the crease. He’s checked by Gooch and his momentum changed by almost 90 degrees. I’m not complaining, but it’s concerning that the season could end on one of these BS calls which seem to happen frequently. Thankfully the Friday call didn’t end up mattering. The Saturday call may keep western out of the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThompHockey Posted March 1, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 1, 2020 28 minutes ago, Walsh Hall said: Draw a line on the movement of the WMU player at 30 seconds in that video from the circle to contact with the goalie. He’s moving in a straight line which would be outside the crease. He’s checked by Gooch and his momentum changed by almost 90 degrees. I’m not complaining, but it’s concerning that the season could end on one of these BS calls which seem to happen frequently. Thankfully the Friday call didn’t end up mattering. The Saturday call may keep western out of the playoffs. Thats not what i see. I see a player who skated to the front of the net barely gets pushed and changes his momentum to run into the goalie. He was looking for contact to do exactly what he did.... easy call 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burd Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, ThompHockey said: Thats not what i see. I see a player who skated to the front of the net barely gets pushed and changes his momentum to run into the goalie. He was looking for contact to do exactly what he did.... easy call As fans, we usually don't see very reliably. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Both nights "no goals" were crap calls. That should be universally understood. Cant help you otherwise. But at least the refs called it consistently bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThompHockey Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, Cratter said: Both nights "no goals" were crap calls. That should be universally understood. Cant help you otherwise. But at least the refs called it consistently Saturday nights was the right call. Ya can't skate into a goalie.... even if your pushed a little, you put yourself in that position to run into the goalie. Easy call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, ThompHockey said: Saturday nights was the right call. Ya can't skate into a goalie.... even if your pushed a little, you put yourself in that position to run into the goalie. Easy call The majority of the people dont see it that way. Take off the green glasses bro. That goal would have stood had Friday's goal stood. The refs knew it was a good goal but they said "well let's keep screwing up and even up our no goals call." Heck even the UND coaches basically said that's what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThompHockey Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 No the refs didn't say to each other "hey we took one away last night might as well take one away tonight". Lol And anyone who knows the actual rules.. like in the rule book knows that was the right call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Walsh Hall said: Both no goals were the wrong call, but I can’t believe they took away WMU’s goal last night. I was upset the UND goal was disallowed. I would have been absolutely furious if the WMU no-goal had happened to UND. I was surprised that Andy M. kept it together as well as he did. Honestly, I think Friday night's was horrendous and I still have no idea how that's not a goal. Last night's was a bit closer, but still should not have been a goal. Player was already going to be going directly into Scheel without Guchi touching him. There's no way he was avoiding contact. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThompHockey Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 minute ago, stoneySIOUX said: Honestly, I think Friday night's was horrendous and I still have no idea how that's not a goal. Last night's was a bit closer, but still should not have been a goal. Player was already going to be going directly into Scheel without Guchi touching him. There's no way he was avoiding contact. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneySIOUX Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Walsh Hall said: In the overhead angle you can see that the WMU player was not even going to enter the crease. He would have been a good 2 ft outside the crease. Scheel was obviously 100% interfered with and had no chance, but the WMU was pushing into him. Two feet wide? I'm sorry, man but I don't get where you're seeing that. Regardless, had he gone two feet wide, there's no interference and Scheel is in position to make the save. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, stoneySIOUX said: Player was already going to be going directly into Scheel without Guchi touching him. There's no way he was avoiding contact. That's the thing. You cant "predict" what a player might or have might not have done had he not been pushed. That is not part of the rules where anything is stated. He could have easily avoided contact had he not been pushed. But but he was pushed so he couldn't have avoided contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Godsmack Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 I asked our Air Force cadet whom we sponsor, who plays for the AF club team and has no dog in the fight whatsoever, his opinion on it and here’s what he said... ”The western guy goes down to one knee before getting to the net, so I’d say he made no attempt to avoid the goalie.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzerman19 Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Godsmack said: I asked our Air Force cadet whom we sponsor, who plays for the AF club team and has no dog in the fight whatsoever, his opinion on it and here’s what he said... ”The western guy goes down to one knee before getting to the net, so I’d say he made no attempt to avoid the goalie.” That’s an accurate view. As I said, the attacking player has to make an effort to avoid the contact. It’s not “oh I was bumped and now I can fly into the goalie” 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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