Who would UND hire?

[F'n Hawks]

2 minutes ago, sioux24/7 said:

So who would UND hire? 

- Eric Schmidt - 1st year as DC at San Diego State. Currently they’re 3-8, giving up 29.45ppg and 422.9 yards per game. Not great, but 1st year as DC there. 

- Danny Freund - 1st year as Co-OC at SDSU but not the primary play caller. Offense is averaging 36.58ppg. No clue how credit he’s due, if any. He’s my guy but understand the skepticism. 

- Isaac Fruechte - 1st year as OC here. Think he’s done a decent to good job. Offense is averaging 30.83ppg. People aren’t a fan of his QB choice. I think he will be a successful coach going forward but not sure it’s the right time to be the head coach. 

- Tony Annese - Ferris State head coach, #1 team in D2. 132-21 record but he’s 63 years old. Maybe his son Steve? Not sure how much influence he has had in their success.

- Tyler Roehl - if you can’t beat them, hire them? I know he’s now at Iowa State but many years in the NDSU program and knows how to win. Many voiced their opinion for him to take over after Entz left. Many also wanted him canned. I’d say this one’s unlikely. 

- Luke Schleussner - 2nd year as OC at Idaho, was our OC last year of Muss. Known as a great recruiter. Idaho is averaging 28.08ppg this year and 32.31 last year. 

- Josh Davis - 1st year as OC at USD, was previously at SDSU as the pass game coordinator. Averaging 37ppg. 

- Travis Johansen - 6th season as USD’s DC. Holding teams to 14.94ppg. Was previously the head coach at Grand View (NAIA) where he had a record of 61-11. 

- Jesse Bobbit - 2nd season as SDSU’s DC. Held teams to 12.42ppg this year and 9.27ppg last year. An SDSU alum with previous coaching stop at Washington State as a grad assistant and then quality control coach. 

I am sure there are many others but I’m more interested in talking about who rather than talking about Bubba right now. We will see if this is even necessary this year but this thread and the need for a new head coach is not going to die just because the athletic department says Bubba isn’t leaving. 

Please just have it actually be a true national search. Not just give it to Fruechte or offer to Freund without evaluating all possible options

[shep]

33 minutes ago, F'n Hawks said:

Please just have it actually be a true national search. Not just give it to Fruechte or offer to Freund without evaluating all possible options

I agree but if Danny got it, there would be the boo birds who will say the fix was in. Same for Fruechte

[F'n Hawks]

7 minutes ago, shep said:

I agree but if Danny got it, there would be the boo birds who will say the fix was in. Same for Fruechte

Agreed. I’m of the opinion that it shouldn’t be either. I would maybe consider Schluessner, but would like someone without UND ties

[Oxbow6]

1 hour ago, F'n Hawks said:

Please just have it actually be a true national search. Not just give it to Fruechte or offer to Freund without evaluating all possible options

If Fruechte had any say in how the QB situation was handled this season that should automatically eliminate him

[UND1983]

Why would we even consider an in-house option?  Open it up and the best will rise to the top

[Wilbur]

My vote is a guy with no UND ties.  Lets get away from the good ole boy network. 

[FSSD]

17 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

Why would we even consider an in-house option?  Open it up and the best will rise to the top

Well, the last time we opened it up.  The cream is currently the HC at Alabama.  I think the problem is who is making the decisions not the talent pool.  We should be putting together our list of decision makers.  Who have you got?  I have no clue. 

[90siouxfan]

Great question, everybody's wet dream happens tomorrow morning at 8am, Bubba is ousted...   Does Chaves become the sole determining opinion on the replacement?

[The Sicatoka]

Bubba is a week older than John Harbaugh. He’d be second oldest in NFL behind Andy Reid. 

[90siouxfan]

1 minute ago, The Sicatoka said:

Bubba is a week older than John Harbaugh. He’d be second oldest in NFL behind Andy Reid. 

Are you saying we turn Andy Reid away?  Bold move Cotton.

[The Sicatoka]

1 minute ago, 90siouxfan said:

Are you saying we turn Andy Reid away?  Bold move Cotton.

Youth movement: Harbaugh 

[geaux_sioux]

1 hour ago, FSSD said:

Well, the last time we opened it up.  The cream is currently the HC at Alabama.  I think the problem is who is making the decisions not the talent pool.  We should be putting together our list of decision makers.  Who have you got?  I have no clue. 

Hopefully Hak doesn’t get a voice this time. What would he know about winning the big one anyway?

[F'n Hawks]

So realistically speaking: Bubba will have his end of the year conference tomorrow. He will start by recapping the previous game and either announce staff changes or get asked about them. And then we move on forward with him for next year? I hope I’m wrong but I just done see them buying him out at this point.

 

Chaves is extended through June 2026. They let him go after spring of 2025 and hire new AD. New AD is able to hire new football coach after Bubba wins 4 games next year.

[SiouxFan100]

I just don’t see UND making a head coaching change. We are stuck. 2025 looks like a disaster.

[UND-FB-FAN]

13 hours ago, F'n Hawks said:

So realistically speaking: Bubba will have his end of the year conference tomorrow. He will start by recapping the previous game and either announce staff changes or get asked about them. And then we move on forward with him for next year? I hope I’m wrong but I just done see them buying him out at this point.

 

Chaves is extended through June 2026. They let him go after spring of 2025 and hire new AD. New AD is able to hire new football coach after Bubba wins 4 games next year.

 

13 hours ago, SiouxFan100 said:

I just don’t see UND making a head coaching change. We are stuck. 2025 looks like a disaster.

If Bubba is retained for 2025, then 2025 will certainly be projected as a lame duck disaster year. Of course, when he possibly goes 7-4 and loses in the first round of the playoffs, then we’re stuck in ongoing mediocrity as he won’t be fired and half of the “supporters” will want him to have another pointless shot in 2026 (all the while NDSU, SDSU, and even USD will be further ahead).
 

If he doesn’t have a winning season in 2025, which is most probable, then he’ll obviously be fired at that point, but that’s one more season digging the figurative hole we’re in deeper. 

[F'n Hawks]

2 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

 

If Bubba is retained for 2025, then 2025 will certainly be projected as a lame duck disaster year. Of course, when he possibly goes 7-4 and loses in the first round of the playoffs, then we’re stuck in going mediocrity as he won’t be fired and half of “supporters” will want him to have a shot for 2026 (all the while NDSU, SDSU, and even USD will be further ahead). If he doesn’t have a winning season in 2025, then he’ll obviously be fired at that point, but that’s more season digging the figurative hole we’re in deeper. 

It’s finally to the point IMO where a 7-4 season with a first round playoff game doesn’t save him. If he’s back you are exactly right, it will be a lame duck disaster of a year. It’s going to be such an obvious waste of time because we know what he is capable of.

[AJS]

I refuse to believe both the AD and President will quit on the FB program, which is what they’d do if Bubba is retained. 

[shep]

UND has more students than any of the ND/SD schools.

UND is #3 in financial support for football.

No one can reasonably feel good about where UND FB is at

[Dustin]

3 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

If Fruechte had any say in how the QB situation was handled this season that should automatically eliminate him

To be fair, he had no say in their recruitment, so he was just playing the cards dealt. Maybe none of them fit his vision for a QB. Not saying Freuchte should be the next HC, just that I am going to hold judgement until he gets his guy in the system. 

[Oxbow6]

1 minute ago, Dustin said:

To be fair, he had no say in their recruitment, so he was just playing the cards dealt. Maybe none of them fit his vision for a QB. Not saying Freuchte should be the next HC, just that I am going to hold judgement until he gets his guy in the system. 

That guy won't be Jerry and it isn't Simon.

[Hawkster]

1 hour ago, SiouxFan100 said:

I just don’t see UND making a head coaching change. We are stuck. 2025 looks like a disaster.

Next year I'm seeing 7-5 with loses to K State, Montana, NDSU, SDSU, and USD.   We have Youngstown and Indiana State at home so Bubba will pull out close wins there.   Going 7-5 with a possible playoff bid and loss on the road will be all the justification Chaves needs.

[fightingsioux4life]

1 minute ago, Hawkster said:

Next year I'm seeing 7-5 with loses to K State, Montana, NDSU, SDSU, and USD.   We have Youngstown and Indiana State at home so Bubba will pull out close wins there.   Going 7-5 with a possible playoff bid and loss on the road will be all the justification Chaves needs.

One more contract extension for Bubba and I am done as a season ticket holder.

[AJS]

2 minutes ago, Hawkster said:

Next year I'm seeing 7-5 with loses to K State, Montana, NDSU, SDSU, and USD.   We have Youngstown and Indiana State at home so Bubba will pull out close wins there.   Going 7-5 with a possible playoff bid and loss on the road will be all the justification Chaves needs.

Yeah, if Bubba is still the coach they will not win 7 games. It’s going to be a disaster.

[fightingsioux4life]

andrew.armacost@und.edu

[F'n Hawks]

17 minutes ago, Hawkster said:

Next year I'm seeing 7-5 with loses to K State, Montana, NDSU, SDSU, and USD.   We have Youngstown and Indiana State at home so Bubba will pull out close wins there.   Going 7-5 with a possible playoff bid and loss on the road will be all the justification Chaves needs.

7 wins assumes wins on the road against UNI and Southern Illinois. Not sure if I see that happening. Sure they both may be awful next year, but so were Youngstown State and Indiana State this year.