UND1981 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 2 hours ago, fightingsioux4life said: a spoiled rotten entitled brat If MK even has this in the back of his mind, the meeting with KEM will be a disaster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Oxbow6 Posted May 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 minute ago, UNDBIZ said: Just a matter of time now. Unless it comes out Teddy was actually a transgender cowboy then it's all good. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Siouxphan27 said: Glad you finally agree with me on probably the most important-among many- reasons why this name was a bad choice. All it would take is a few people pointing out Teddy Roosevelt was a white guy with a gun chasing Indians. As we all know, facts don't matter. Heck, facts not mattering is how we became the Roughrider state in the first place. Tear down those statues and change the state nickname 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 20 minutes ago, Teeder11 said: Michigan State seems ok with the Trojans ... MSU is Spartans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, UND1981 said: If MK even has this in the back of his mind, the meeting with KEM will be a disaster. That is just my opinion based on what I know. I am sure Kennedy is better versed in the fine art of diplomacy than I (and most people on here) am. The fact that she ran to the Heraldo and lied about not being offered meeting dates tells you that KEM is not an honest broker. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 2 hours ago, darell1976 said: I would have had a tough time yelling, “Go Riders”. Nope can’t do it, and I am sure a lot of GFC alum would feel that way. I entered the name Jets but maybe being too close to Winnipeg was the reason to axe the name. Why can't people separate the high school and the college? I think BYU has the same thing in their town. I don't think I would have a problem yelling "Go Riders" at a UND sporting event. Now at a high school game involving GFRR and a certain other high school.....that is a little different. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeder11 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 6 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: MSU is Spartans. Argggh... I thought I had a good line of logic going there... Disregard. I think Troy, Mich. threw me off. Thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: Why can't people separate the high school and the college? I think BYU has the same thing in their town. I don't think I would have a problem yelling "Go Riders" at a UND sporting event. Now at a high school game involving GFRR and a certain other high school.....that is a little different. Well for some here, Darell for example, the fact that "Go Hawks" is all monosyllabic vs "Go Riders" makes it easier to roll off one's tongue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 TR said the following words about American Indians in a speech in January 1886 in South Dakota, Quote "I suppose I should be ashamed to say that I take the western view of the Indian. I don't go so far as to think that the only good Indian is the dead Indian, but I believe nine out of every ten are, and I shouldn't like to inquire too closely into the case of the tenth. The most vicious cowboy has more moral principle than the average Indian. Take three hundred low families of New York and New Jersey, support them, for fifty years, in vicious idleness, and you will have some idea of what the Indians are. Reckless, revengeful, fiendishly cruel, they rob and murder, not the 'cowboys who can take care of themselves, but the defenseless, lone settlers of the plains. That would not end well. The only thing to work against that would be the members of Standing Rock that said UND should be the Roughriders. Yup, Ron His Horse Is Thunder said so: Quote His Horse Is Thunder suggested a replacement nickname that would focus on a North Dakota hero, Teddy Roosevelt. "I would ask the UND alumni, the state board of Higher Education, . . . to take a look at changing the logo, and choose an image that all of North Dakota could be proud of," he said "We have the perfect logo: North Dakota Rough Riders. . . . Who could object to that? It is talking about bravery, it is talking about courage. I think everyone could agree on that." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: I think BYU has the same thing in their town. Ames, Iowa: Iowa State Cyclones and the Ames HS Little Cyclones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Where is the outrage that the government of North Dakota is giving money to build a library in the name of Teddy R. with quotes like that! Will that quote be highlighted in his new library and museum in Medora, ND? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 https://www.grandforksherald.com/news/education/4452965-unds-mark-kennedy-meet-las-vegas-kris-engelstad-mcgarry I wonder when we will find out what came out of the meeting today. Who will reveal what was discussed first?!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 26 minutes ago, petey23 said: Tear down those statues and change the state nickname Earlier today in Bismarck: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxphan27 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: TR said the following words about American Indians in a speech in January 1886 in South Dakota, That would not end well. The only thing to work against that would be the members of Standing Rock that said UND should be the Roughriders. Yup, Ron His Horse Is Thunder said so: Come on Sic, if we've learned anything from political correctness, it's that the thoughts of those who 'should' be offended, don't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 27 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: Why can't people separate the high school and the college? I think BYU has the same thing in their town. I don't think I would have a problem yelling "Go Riders" at a UND sporting event. Now at a high school game involving GFRR and a certain other high school.....that is a little different. I suppose we could have renamed GFRR the Little Riders, or just plain River Rats is acceptable too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 22 minutes ago, darell1976 said: I suppose we could have renamed GFRR the Little Riders, or just plain River Rats is acceptable too. Little Riders could be offensive to vertically challenged people and River Rats may be offensive to the Rodent Community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 41 minutes ago, Cratter said: Where is the outrage that the government of North Dakota WAS giving money to build a library in the name of Teddy R. with quotes like that! Will that quote be highlighted in his new library and museum in Medora, ND? Fyp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Fyp As far as I know, the North Dakota Legislature still has pledged to give $12.5 million for the library project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, Cratter said: As far as I know, the North Dakota Legislature still has pledged to give $12.5 million for the library project. Yes, but it looks like it will be cancelled in December. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperman8 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Here is my limited manifesto on the nickname, logo and floor at the Betty. My understanding from those that deal with MK regularly is that he can be difficult to deal with. He needs to figure out how to maintain a relationship with a large donor like KEM. I am not a big fan of the nickname or the logo but they are what we have and I support both. Fighting against them serves no purpose in my mind. I was a huge supporter of the Sioux name and wanted to fight the good fight but it got too harmful for the university to continue with it. It sounds like the agreement with REA is written to say that it exists for the betterment of UND (or something like that). If that is true then the REA should honor the wishes of the men's and women's bb teams, the vb team, the AD and the president in deciding what is at mid-court at the Betty. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Time to put this stupid episode behind him and limp softly into his next position. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jdub27 Posted May 30, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2018 15 hours ago, Frozen4sioux said: Time to put this stupid episode behind him and limp softly into his next position. Incredibly happy that someone who has professional aspirations and is also willing to stand up for UND when needed is running the university. You can have your status quo, they are a big part of what put UND square in line with some of the issues MK is trying to clean up. About time there is some forward thinking going on, even if it can be uncomfortable at times. There will be (and have been) hiccups, but it's unfortunate that some people can't see the big picture. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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darell1976 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 13 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: That’s always good news when both parties and come to an agreement and work stuff out. Of course we don’t know the details yet, but so far so good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blackheart Posted May 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Frozen4sioux said: Time to put this stupid episode behind him and limp softly into his next position. Kennedy is related to Mr. Garrison? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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