franchise Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 On 3/17/2018 at 9:31 PM, NoiseInsideMyHead said: All sports are suffering. It is a changing cultural dynamic, and cannot be traced to a singular cause, let alone a single franchise, venue, or event. Some convenient places to direct your ire: Phones - Nobody pays attention to anything, anywhere. Especially 18-22 year olds. Enhanced viewing options - HDTV was the ultimate game changer, right along with expanded cable offerings, subscription only services, home-to-mobile viewing, unlimited data plans for mobile devices., etc. Cost - This is a no-brainer. Between ticket, parking, and concessions, attending live sporting events is expensive. Competitive balance - Parity reigns supreme in many sports right now. Traditional powerhouses are struggling, some for the first time in a generation or more. The future is not very bright. As college students fade away from interest in their own school's sports, those behaviors are likely to carry into adulthood and will have some effect on attendance at major pro events, many of which are already seeing diminished demand for tickets. This. So annoying Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 2 hours ago, runaroundsioux said: Nice broad generalization there. Quote
01grad Posted March 19, 2018 Author Posted March 19, 2018 There is the mental aspect of the game when opponents line up and if you don't have the same look and feel it might take some time to get that back again with intimidation that we have built up over the years with a little birdie on the front of our jerseys. Once people are seeing that we are beatable that can go a long way so we need to rebuild that again. 1 2 Quote
UND1983 Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, 01grad said: There is the mental aspect of the game when opponents line up and if you don't have the same look and feel it might take some time to get that back again with intimidation that we have built up over the years with a little birdie on the front of our jerseys. Once people are seeing that we are beatable that can go a long way so we need to rebuild that again. lol. 3 Quote
brianvf Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, 01grad said: There is the mental aspect of the game when opponents line up and if you don't have the same look and feel it might take some time to get that back again with intimidation that we have built up over the years with a little birdie on the front of our jerseys. Once people are seeing that we are beatable that can go a long way so we need to rebuild that again. 1 Quote
UNDBIZ Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 10 minutes ago, 01grad said: There is the mental aspect of the game when opponents line up and if you don't have the same look and feel it might take some time to get that back again with intimidation that we have built up over the years with a little birdie on the front of our jerseys. Once people are seeing that we are beatable that can go a long way so we need to rebuild that again. Do you even watch UND hockey? We haven't had a logo on the front of our jerseys since 2012. 3 Quote
FGHTNSX Hawkey14 Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 20 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: Nice broad generalization there. Generalization? That handy infographic only mentions two people! Quote
darell1976 Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 3 hours ago, 01grad said: There is the mental aspect of the game when opponents line up and if you don't have the same look and feel it might take some time to get that back again with intimidation that we have built up over the years with a little birdie on the front of our jerseys. Once people are seeing that we are beatable that can go a long way so we need to rebuild that again. So people should have been outraged that UND got rid of the geometric logo on the jerseys from 2001-2012 since every year they had the Brien Sioux logo they never won a national title. I swear your hatred for that little birdie on the shoulder of the jersey is beyond laughable it’s pretty sad. 1 Quote
Frozen4sioux Posted March 19, 2018 Posted March 19, 2018 Sad is those that have multiple usernames on here endlessly trying to convince the supermajority that the new logo is even marginally palatable. Sad is the pathetic state of the country and the NCAA that led to the policy being created. Sad is the weak leadership that let this play on for 15 years instead of decisive action. Sad is the political theater that was used to promote individuals instead of solutions. Sad is the ultrashhitty process of committes that spearheaded the processes of selection. Sad is the result of all those years being a throw away effort by a NY firm in the pathetic and UNIVERSALLY ridiculed creation of that stupid little bird. And its SAD that you keep spouting off belittling the 90% that view the above as true while pretending to hold onto this illogical belief that if you just keep saying it.... it has to be true. Massive issues right now in society becaise smaller groups of people demand their lightly held opinions be heard and upheld, while the opposing opinions are deemed hateful and need to be banned. This is the problem holding back the future acceptance of a new direction, but blind ignorance is standing in front of the light and empowering the chaos. If you disagree fine... we can argue about it over a beer at the Ralph in ten years, come find me.... I'll be one of the 8'000 people still wearing a Figgting Sioux Legecy logo. But you be you, you like the birdie..... I'm happy for you, go buy your little bird shirt and be proud...buy 2 or 3 or hell buy 20 they're 80% of at scheels!... cause the damn things don't even sell..... .... and that is sad. 4 5 Quote
Popular Post UND-1 Posted March 19, 2018 Popular Post Posted March 19, 2018 27 minutes ago, Frozen4sioux said: Sad is those that have multiple usernames on here endlessly trying to convince the supermajority that the new logo is even marginally palatable. Sad is the pathetic state of the country and the NCAA that led to the policy being created. Sad is the weak leadership that let this play on for 15 years instead of decisive action. Sad is the political theater that was used to promote individuals instead of solutions. Sad is the ultrashhitty process of committes that spearheaded the processes of selection. Sad is the result of all those years being a throw away effort by a NY firm in the pathetic and UNIVERSALLY ridiculed creation of that stupid little bird. And its SAD that you keep spouting off belittling the 90% that view the above as true while pretending to hold onto this illogical belief that if you just keep saying it.... it has to be true. Massive issues right now in society becaise smaller groups of people demand their lightly held opinions be heard and upheld, while the opposing opinions are deemed hateful and need to be banned. This is the problem holding back the future acceptance of a new direction, but blind ignorance is standing in front of the light and empowering the chaos. If you disagree fine... we can argue about it over a beer at the Ralph in ten years, come find me.... I'll be one of the 8'000 people still wearing a Figgting Sioux Legecy logo. But you be you, you like the birdie..... I'm happy for you, go buy your little bird shirt and be proud...buy 2 or 3 or hell buy 20 they're 80% of at scheels!... cause the damn things don't even sell..... .... and that is sad. Dramatic. Sorry your hockey team lost it's native american nickname. Who's really the snowflake? 3 4 2 Quote
Popular Post Goon Posted March 19, 2018 Popular Post Posted March 19, 2018 6 hours ago, 01grad said: There is the mental aspect of the game when opponents line up and if you don't have the same look and feel it might take some time to get that back again with intimidation that we have built up over the years with a little birdie on the front of our jerseys. Once people are seeing that we are beatable that can go a long way so we need to rebuild that again. Did you watch the post game press conference on Friday afternoon? Coach Motzko talked about playing North Dakota and what they bring to the rink. He complimented UND. He basically said, The games can’t get any more intense. And they have to bring it every time they play UND. It’s not what’s on the front of the jersey but what’s in the players heart and mind set. It’s playing North Dakota and being in a war every game. That still exists today. It hasn’t changed. There are going to down seasons. That’s sports. Coach Berry talks about the culture and no one player is above that. Doesn’t matter if your a first round draft choice or a fourth liner. If the fourth liner is playing better they’re going to play. Yes, this year was down but to suggest UND’s brand is ruined because the university dared to put a Hawk on the shoulders is short sighted. Five conference titles and an NCAA Title have been won under the Fighting Hawks nickname. It isn’t going anywhere. While the Nickname is gone, the same culture remains. Kick Ass and go hard. Bring it every game. Hey, I love the Fighting Sioux nickname but it’s gone, forever. It’s not coming back. After botching the nickname transition the university is moving forward to develop a brand. 1 6 Quote
darell1976 Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Frozen4sioux said: Sad is those that have multiple usernames on here endlessly trying to convince the supermajority that the new logo is even marginally palatable. Sad is the pathetic state of the country and the NCAA that led to the policy being created. Sad is the weak leadership that let this play on for 15 years instead of decisive action. Sad is the political theater that was used to promote individuals instead of solutions. Sad is the ultrashhitty process of committes that spearheaded the processes of selection. Sad is the result of all those years being a throw away effort by a NY firm in the pathetic and UNIVERSALLY ridiculed creation of that stupid little bird. And its SAD that you keep spouting off belittling the 90% that view the above as true while pretending to hold onto this illogical belief that if you just keep saying it.... it has to be true. Massive issues right now in society becaise smaller groups of people demand their lightly held opinions be heard and upheld, while the opposing opinions are deemed hateful and need to be banned. This is the problem holding back the future acceptance of a new direction, but blind ignorance is standing in front of the light and empowering the chaos. If you disagree fine... we can argue about it over a beer at the Ralph in ten years, come find me.... I'll be one of the 8'000 people still wearing a Figgting Sioux Legecy logo. But you be you, you like the birdie..... I'm happy for you, go buy your little bird shirt and be proud...buy 2 or 3 or hell buy 20 they're 80% of at scheels!... cause the damn things don't even sell..... .... and that is sad. Are you done so you can hug your Sioux pillow and curse the little birdie for making the hockey team soft. 2 1 2 Quote
Frozen4sioux Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 Use another username.... get a few more likes. Ill help you out and like it too. Quote
AlphaMikeFoxtrot Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 13 hours ago, runaroundsioux said: Does Mark say "I seen" rather than "I saw" like so many of the locals do in GF? 1 Quote
geaux_sioux Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 5 hours ago, Frozen4sioux said: Sad is those that have multiple usernames on here endlessly trying to convince the supermajority that the new logo is even marginally palatable. Sad is the pathetic state of the country and the NCAA that led to the policy being created. Sad is the weak leadership that let this play on for 15 years instead of decisive action. Sad is the political theater that was used to promote individuals instead of solutions. Sad is the ultrashhitty process of committes that spearheaded the processes of selection. Sad is the result of all those years being a throw away effort by a NY firm in the pathetic and UNIVERSALLY ridiculed creation of that stupid little bird. And its SAD that you keep spouting off belittling the 90% that view the above as true while pretending to hold onto this illogical belief that if you just keep saying it.... it has to be true. Massive issues right now in society becaise smaller groups of people demand their lightly held opinions be heard and upheld, while the opposing opinions are deemed hateful and need to be banned. This is the problem holding back the future acceptance of a new direction, but blind ignorance is standing in front of the light and empowering the chaos. If you disagree fine... we can argue about it over a beer at the Ralph in ten years, come find me.... I'll be one of the 8'000 people still wearing a Figgting Sioux Legecy logo. But you be you, you like the birdie..... I'm happy for you, go buy your little bird shirt and be proud...buy 2 or 3 or hell buy 20 they're 80% of at scheels!... cause the damn things don't even sell..... .... and that is sad. I like my bird shirt and bird hat. Stay in the past if you must. 2 1 Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 4 hours ago, TheWhiteDevil said: Don’t fight you guys... Good luck in your fight on Friday in SF. Quote
burd Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 16 hours ago, 01grad said: There is the mental aspect of the game when opponents line up and if you don't have the same look and feel it might take some time to get that back again with intimidation that we have built up over the years with a little birdie on the front of our jerseys. Once people are seeing that we are beatable that can go a long way so we need to rebuild that again. That's far too stupid to be anything but a troll. Speaking of getting our mojo back: the trolling here has really become weak. They used to intimidate. 1 1 Quote
franchise Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 I understand that they wanted to completely cut ties with the new logo, but it still would have been easier to swallow if they had gone with something transitional like the logo that floated around using the Sioux head feathers Quote
snova4 Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 9 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: I like my bird shirt and bird hat. Stay in the past if you must. And l like the clothes, jerseys, hats, and everything else I've invested thousands of dollars in. You can keep the Burlington Northern/USPS logo. I'll contemplate buying new when there's something that looks decent. 3 1 Quote
geaux_sioux Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, snova4 said: And l like the clothes, jerseys, hats, and everything else I've invested thousands of dollars in. You can keep the Burlington Northern/USPS logo. I'll contemplate buying new when there's something that looks decent. Just make sure to stay right, there are people passing in the left lane. Quote
InHeavenThereIsNoBeer Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 11 hours ago, AlphaMikeFoxtrot said: Does Mark say "I seen" rather than "I saw" like so many of the locals do in GF? Relevance? Quote
snova4 Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Just make sure to stay right, there are people passing in the left lane. Don't worry, l have no problem being passed by, by fans that think they hold some sort of moral high ground over a couple logos on some hats. 2 1 Quote
geaux_sioux Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, snova4 said: Don't worry, l have no problem being passed by, by fans that think they hold some sort of moral high ground over a couple logos on some hats. It’s not a moral high ground at all. I’m far from a pc crusader, I hate that !@#$ with a passion. I’d rather have a healthy athletic department and we couldn’t have that with the Sioux nickname anymore. So I moved on. 3 1 Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 23 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: It’s not a moral high ground at all. I’m far from a pc crusader, I hate that !@#$ with a passion. I’d rather have a healthy athletic department and we couldn’t have that with the Sioux nickname anymore. So I moved on. THIS x 1000!!! #letitgopeople 1 1 Quote
AlphaMikeFoxtrot Posted March 20, 2018 Posted March 20, 2018 41 minutes ago, InHeavenThereIsNoBeer said: Relevance? Education matters. The "makes more money than you" argument is inane. 1 Quote
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