nodak651 Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 On 3/14/2019 at 2:02 PM, MafiaMan said: Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't North Dakota also have a chance at beating 130 RPI Omaha in this tournament? If NDSU is "lucky" to have had the opportunity to play such a poor team, what's your excuse for the Fighting Hawks blowing the exact same opportunity? Surely you can do better than "Crandall left." Never said there was an excuse. We suck, just like pretty much everyone in our conference. They are lucky that our conference sucks. Quote
MafiaMan Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 1 hour ago, nodak651 said: Never said there was an excuse. We suck, just like pretty much everyone in our conference. They are lucky that our conference sucks. Not sure about everyone else, but I would have loved to tune in next Thursday to watch a sucky UND team play in the opening round of the tournament. Quote
nodak651 Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: Not sure about everyone else, but I would have loved to tune in next Thursday to watch a sucky UND team play in the opening round of the tournament. Agreed. Quote
SiouxVolley Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 22 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: Not sure about everyone else, but I would have loved to tune in next Thursday to watch a sucky UND team play in the opening round of the tournament. You’d miss the game, because UND would play on Tuesday or Wednesday when the extra 16 seeds play. Quote
Hawkster Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: Not sure about everyone else, but I would have loved to tune in next Thursday to watch a sucky UND team play in the opening round of the tournament. I think even the sucky NDSU team will be in the play in game. No Thursday for them either Quote
MafiaMan Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said: You’d miss the game, because UND would play on Tuesday or Wednesday when the extra 16 seeds play. I don't count those as part of the tournament and I was projecting UND to win that Tuesday or Wednesday game anyways. 1 Quote
SiouxVolley Posted March 15, 2019 Posted March 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Hawkster said: I think even the sucky NDSU team will be in the play in game. No Thursday for them either I think NDSU will be favored in any playoff game and gain $1.7 for the Summit. Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted March 16, 2019 Author Posted March 16, 2019 19 hours ago, Texas rancher said: Don’t get me wrong, I’m sure Pickens makes plenty of decisions down there, but they are viewed as positive decisions helping the university! Not the same perception the Engelstad family shadow falls on und! One only needs to look at this message board to see that. The posters here are mostly appreciative of The Gift, it's the jealous You and your Troll buddies who are not. Please move on, you add nothing here. Quote
nd1sufan Posted March 16, 2019 Posted March 16, 2019 5 hours ago, SiouxVolley said: I think NDSU will be favored in any playoff game and gain $1.7 for the Summit. Does anybody know? Does the conference got the whole 1.7mil or is it split half conference half school? I know the first year year NDSU made it the conference got it all, but I thought that was just for the first year they were eligible. Quote
jdub27 Posted March 16, 2019 Posted March 16, 2019 12 hours ago, nd1sufan said: Does anybody know? Does the conference got the whole 1.7mil or is it split half conference half school? I know the first year year NDSU made it the conference got it all, but I thought that was just for the first year they were eligible. All tournament credits are split equally between the schools. Quote
Shawn-O Posted March 16, 2019 Posted March 16, 2019 18 hours ago, MafiaMan said: Not sure about everyone else, but I would have loved to tune in next Thursday to watch a sucky UND team play in the opening round of the tournament. Lots of room on the Gopher basketball bandwagon, hop on! Quote
SiouxVolley Posted March 16, 2019 Posted March 16, 2019 14 hours ago, nd1sufan said: Does anybody know? Does the conference got the whole 1.7mil or is it split half conference half school? I know the first year year NDSU made it the conference got it all, but I thought that was just for the first year they were eligible. It’s split over five years as an annuity, so the immediate increase in payout won’t happen til next year. Of course, the other four years are also split, so it appears the Summit is getting near the $1.7 for this year, but that is the last five years payment. NDSU’s win over Oklahoma also gave the Summit an additional credit, but that’s almost expired. The payments go up each year of this current contract. Some conferences reward schools for winning. The Atlantic 10 gives big chunks to the school that did the winning as a annuity so winning NCAA tournament games becomes so much of a priority. Most presidents and AD’s want a steady and sure source of income for their athletic programs. The Summit has always been a socialist conference to my knowledge. Show me a link where that wasn’t done. Granted, NDSU received free publicity, got all expenses paid that the NCAA allows (charter, hotels, meals) and likely saw a big increase in merchandise sales, but most conferences share dance revenues evenly. The only was that NDSU could get the full value to itself if it withdraws from the Summit League, thereby destroying the SL autobid. If a conference loses its autobid, the payments revert to the school that earned them. Quote
sprig Posted March 17, 2019 Posted March 17, 2019 Bison get play in vs NC Central to meet 1 seed Duke Quote
darell1976 Posted March 17, 2019 Posted March 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, sprig said: Bison get play in vs NC Central to meet 1 seed Duke They either lose to NC Central or get destroyed by Duke. Quote
Shawn-O Posted March 17, 2019 Posted March 17, 2019 1 minute ago, darell1976 said: They either lose to NC Central or get destroyed by Duke. Just like UND got destroyed by Arizona a few years ago, yes. Quote
UND1983 Posted March 17, 2019 Posted March 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Shawn-O said: Just like UND got destroyed by Arizona a few years ago, yes. Not really, did you watch it? UND had it down to 7 (IIRC) in the 2nd half at one point. That isn't getting destroyed. Quote
Shawn-O Posted March 17, 2019 Posted March 17, 2019 27 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Not really, did you watch it? UND had it down to 7 (IIRC) in the 2nd half at one point. That isn't getting destroyed. I did, and it was a blast to watch. And I would trade places with NDSU in a second. My point being it’s irritating when people are dismissive of NDSU coming out of the Summit. I will by no means be rooting for any success from them, but congratulations to them on getting there. 1 1 Quote
Texas rancher Posted March 17, 2019 Posted March 17, 2019 Remember that time ndsu beat number five seed Oklahoma Darryls? Quote
MDtoGF Posted March 17, 2019 Posted March 17, 2019 Hi anyone reading, the first four is part of the NCAA Tourney 100 percent. Just because most bracket pools do not utilize it does not mean it doesnt count. They all do. For NDSU's seniors W or L, they made the tourney 100 percent, they just had to play 1 extra game before 1v16 is all it means if they win.. if not its still the tourney. 1 Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Texas rancher said: Remember that time ndsu beat number five seed Oklahoma Darryls? Little different animal than that, but I'll safely say if they pull it off its the greatest athletic feat a North Dakota team has pulled off and nothing would top it. It would trump any national title. Besides Oklahoma was grossly overseeded that year 1 Quote
Shawn-O Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, SWSiouxMN said: Little different animal than that, but I'll safely say if they pull it off its the greatest athletic feat a North Dakota team has pulled off and nothing would top it. It would trump any national title. Besides Oklahoma was grossly overseeded that year Really, what’s the downside in being on the national stage with Duke for a couple hours. There isn’t one!!! Quote
northernraider Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 38 minutes ago, Shawn-O said: Really, what’s the downside in being on the national stage with Duke for a couple hours. There isn’t one!!! More people will certainly be watching this game then the FCS National Championship. Quote
nd1sufan Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Shawn-O said: Really, what’s the downside in being on the national stage with Duke for a couple hours. There isn’t one!!! And if they can get by NC Central and play Duke Friday in prime time, they will be on CBS with Jim Nantz, Bill Rafferty and Grant Hill. That is a pretty big deal. And there is a small chance they can keep it interesting for half of a half or so. Everybody they put on the floor can make a three, so if they are on they may be able to stay close for a little while. Quote
darell1976 Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Shawn-O said: Just like UND got destroyed by Arizona a few years ago, yes. I would say just like the Bison getting destroyed like they did against Gonzaga this season. 102-60. Quote
darell1976 Posted March 18, 2019 Posted March 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Texas rancher said: Remember that time ndsu beat number five seed Oklahoma Darryls? That was when we didn’t have a nickname. It’s been that long ago. Quote
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