bison73 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: Like you??? Brian retired, (and your blabbing and trolling about get rid of somebody), he probably even stayed longer (he's 67) than someone normally would have to help with a better transition for the new AD. You keep believing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 12 minutes ago, bison73 said: You keep believing that. How many more years do you think he should of stayed on as AD? With the nickname changed, conference moves agreed to, certain sports cut, newer buildings, the timing is perfect. UND will move forward. Next man up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 9 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: Faison's track record shows he's a good administrator. If he has a weakness it's that he's not great at kissing hands and shaking babies; he's not the gladhander the %gobc and others 'need'. However, in today's world, being a schmoozer is a key job function of the AD. Should have kept Tom Bunning on then. He was great at kissing hands and shaking babies. Student and fan favorite, plus he liked to drink! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 30 minutes ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: How many more years do you think he should of stayed on as AD? With the nickname changed, conference moves agreed to, certain sports cut, newer buildings, the timing is perfect. UND will move forward. Next man up. The consulting firm of Murney & Associates met individually with UND head coaches in September in a conference room at Hyslop Sports Center to get feedback. UND declined to release the findings of those reviews, saying they were all conducted orally. Kennedy said that was the routine procedure. When asked whether Faison approached Kennedy about retiring before or after the consultants conducted their reviews, Kennedy said: “They were in tandem.” Kennedy also rejected the term “reviews” and said it was “skill development.” When asked why pay for skill development of someone who is retiring, Kennedy said: “There are other players on the team he wants to make sure are set up for the transition that will continue to rely on those skills.” This is a forced retirement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moser53 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 37 minutes ago, Cratter said: Should have kept Tom Bunning on then. He was great at kissing hands and shaking babies. Student and fan favorite, plus he liked to drink! Youngstown'sRumor or a story I remember hearing about Tom Bunning is he wouldn't stop calling SU G. Taylor about playing football and other sports games. Joe Chapman and Gene Taylort both very angry at UND for stopping this historic football series. Angry of course is the wrong word.Happy-glad is much more like it. Craig Bohl not sure what he thought about playing UND every year but my hunch is he wasn't loosing any sleep or calling Dale Lennon about playing the game. Things changed in 1999 just look at all the termoil that has been on this campus since that date. If I got any of this wrong correct me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 7 hours ago, bison73 said: The consulting firm of Murney & Associates met individually with UND head coaches in September in a conference room at Hyslop Sports Center to get feedback. UND declined to release the findings of those reviews, saying they were all conducted orally. Kennedy said that was the routine procedure. When asked whether Faison approached Kennedy about retiring before or after the consultants conducted their reviews, Kennedy said: “They were in tandem.” Kennedy also rejected the term “reviews” and said it was “skill development.” When asked why pay for skill development of someone who is retiring, Kennedy said: “There are other players on the team he wants to make sure are set up for the transition that will continue to rely on those skills.” This is a forced retirement. Correct. Of course it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprig Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 11 hours ago, bison73 said: The consulting firm of Murney & Associates met individually with UND head coaches in September in a conference room at Hyslop Sports Center to get feedback. UND declined to release the findings of those reviews, saying they were all conducted orally. Kennedy said that was the routine procedure. When asked whether Faison approached Kennedy about retiring before or after the consultants conducted their reviews, Kennedy said: “They were in tandem.” Kennedy also rejected the term “reviews” and said it was “skill development.” When asked why pay for skill development of someone who is retiring, Kennedy said: “There are other players on the team he wants to make sure are set up for the transition that will continue to rely on those skills.” This is a forced retirement. Why is this important to you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 59 minutes ago, sprig said: Why is this important to you? Because he has friends that didn't get paid for work they supposedly did for UND (even though no one else has ever heard a peep about it) or something like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Agree with this or not, I think Tom Miller makes a solid case that this retirement was not voluntary: http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/4345174-tom-miller-not-buying-it Quote So, at Tuesday's press conference, Kennedy was asked where the consulting firm and Faison's retirement announcement fit in the timeline. Did Faison tell Kennedy he wanted to retire before or after the consulting firm's work? "Those were largely in tandem," Kennedy said. That answer is perfect. It completely fits the trend of ambiguous, indirect answers that encourage all of us to read between the lines. Things that make you go hmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDColorado Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 minute ago, fightingsioux4life said: Agree with this or not, I think Tom Miller makes a solid case that this retirement was not voluntary: http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/4345174-tom-miller-not-buying-it Things that make you go hmm. I read it and it did make me think as well. Then again, Faison is also 67 so how much longer was he going to work full time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jdub27 Posted October 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2017 10 minutes ago, UNDColorado said: I read it and it did make me think as well. Then again, Faison is also 67 so how much longer was he going to work full time? At this point, I'm not really sure what the difference is. He wasn't going to be around much longer, if the President was the one who thought it was a the right time for a new AD, then so be it and he did it in the proper way. If Faison felt he was ready to retire, being 67, dealing with some family health issues and able to see his grandkids more, good for him. Either way, he has left a pretty clean slate for someone new to step in: Conference and nickname issues are cleared up, budget should be in good shape, coaches contracts are fairly settled. I'd rather focus on making sure the next hire is the right person for the job. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UNDBIZ Posted October 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2017 While I believe Faison was encouraged to retire, I find it interesting how the Forum "reporters" are constantly trying to please Bresciani and ndsu while the Herald reporters are constantly looking for new ways to sh*t on UND and its admin. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 minute ago, UNDBIZ said: While I believe Faison was encouraged to retire, I find it interesting how the Forum "reporters" are constantly trying to please Bresciani and ndsu while the Herald reporters are constantly looking for new ways to sh*t on UND and Kennedy FYP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 8 hours ago, bison73 said: The consulting firm of Murney & Associates met individually with UND head coaches in September in a conference room at Hyslop Sports Center to get feedback. UND declined to release the findings of those reviews, saying they were all conducted orally. Kennedy said that was the routine procedure. When asked whether Faison approached Kennedy about retiring before or after the consultants conducted their reviews, Kennedy said: “They were in tandem.” Kennedy also rejected the term “reviews” and said it was “skill development.” When asked why pay for skill development of someone who is retiring, Kennedy said: “There are other players on the team he wants to make sure are set up for the transition that will continue to rely on those skills.” This is a forced retirement. Again, he is 67. Perfect timing. New AD by Jan 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: While I believe Faison was encouraged to retire, I find it interesting how the Forum "reporters" are constantly trying to please Bresciani and ndsu while the Herald reporters are constantly looking for new ways to sh*t on UND and its admin. Not exactly a team effort so far. Two way street that’s had a traffic jam for years. It would be nice if Kennedy, the new AD and the Herald reporters could sit down and get on the same page instead of fighting each other with each move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Not exactly a team effort so far. Two way street that’s had a traffic jam for years. It would be nice if Kennedy, the new AD and the Herald reporters could sit down and get on the same page instead of fighting each other with each move. I think there is some value in having reporters that hold those in power accountable for what they do or don't do. That is in sharp contrast to the Forum's sycophantic slobbering over all things FU. I think there is a happy medium between dirt digging and a$$ kissing. The Heraldo is a little too close to the dirt digging side, but I don't think they are as bad as some people think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 14 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: While I believe Faison was encouraged to retire, I find it interesting how the Forum "reporters" are constantly trying to please Bresciani and ndsu while the Herald reporters are constantly looking for new ways to sh*t on UND and its admin. Glad to see someone else has picked up on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Just now, geaux_sioux said: Not exactly a team effort so far. Two way street that’s had a traffic jam for years. It would be nice if Kennedy, the new AD and the Herald reporters could sit down and get on the same page instead of fighting each other with each move. Sorry, with the press jumping into open records laws so much now a days, not happening. What will happen more is this oral meeting without text, emailing, notes, minutes, videos, and so on. Actually, these oral meetings might be a good thing, some of the stuff is just better said than put in Tom Miller's article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 The real reason Faison retired is he didn't want to have to deal with the fallout of Brian Jones sh.tting the bed this year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UNDBIZ Posted October 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2017 Question. If Kennedy encouraged Faison to retire, but then put on a show for the media to make it seem like it was Faison's choice (allowing Faison to save face and go out gracefully), does that make Kennedy a bad leader? Seems like the right thing to do to me. 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 30 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: While I believe Faison was encouraged to retire, I find it interesting how the Forum "reporters" are constantly trying to please Bresciani and ndsu while the Herald reporters are constantly looking for new ways to sh*t on UND and its admin. Brad and Co. are probably still upset that they got scooped on the cutting of women’s hockey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 32 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: While I believe Faison was encouraged to retire, I find it interesting how the Forum "reporters" are constantly trying to please Bresciani and ndsu while the Herald reporters are constantly looking for new ways to sh*t on UND and its admin. Well, Kennedy's a no-good Republican, so, yea... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I think this is an excellent move for UND with Faison being 67. Get a new dynamic AD in place for the transitioning into the 2 new leagues. Maybe even an AD without front teeth that would know how to get us in the future Premiere Hockey League, just kidding on last sentence, can't have 2 ND's in same conference, NCAA won't allow it!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, cberkas said: Brad and Co. are probably still upset that they got scooped on the cutting of women’s hockey. You wonder why the Herald guys don't have much inside information and are always looking for opens records to get a story. Not saying that is a completely bad thing, but Virg Foss would at least know which guys UND was recruiting and partly because of social media, fans know of recruits or prospective recruits many times before Schlossman does. Maybe it's because of how strict the NCAA is on talking about recruits, but it sure was nice to know what guys UND was interested in, even if they didn't always get them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 14 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: Well, Kennedy's a no-good Republican, so, yea... #MakeUNDgreatagain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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