Standing Rock Protests

[Old Fella]

18 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

Ha-ha........ok. Go ahead and run with that "1".   

.......and to be clear that phrase has become a grossly over used "Marxist" type sound bite spewed by the leftist wing in this country........ especially by a certain someone in the last 8 years.

Here's 1 you can run with/'be careful what you wish for'

[dagies]

17 hours ago, UNDBIZ said:

This is the Community forum and the protests are certainly having an impact on the North Dakota community.  As long as it doesn't stray into racism or too far into politics, I don't see a problem with it.  The other moderators are free to overrule me, if they feel differently.

I'm with you on this

[siouxfaninseattle]

21 hours ago, snova4 said:

Her father sure has been media silent. I'm sure before too long you'll see some sort of domestic terrorism or other Federal charges against her. ATF and joint terrorism task force don't take kindly to IEDs being used on law enforcement.

I really would like to see the results of the investigation. If it shows that she was attempting to create an IED, charges should be brought. It is hard to imagine that anything law enforcement did had anything to do with her injury. The broken chain theory seems most probable. 

[cberkas]

When it comes to explosives there is a key thing that would have came up. Shrapnel, if she was hit with an explosive or one went off, her and other would have shrapnel in their bodies.

[snova4]

On 12/9/2016 at 2:16 PM, cberkas said:

When it comes to explosives there is a key thing that would have came up. Shrapnel, if she was hit with an explosive or one went off, her and other would have shrapnel in their bodies.

Not necessarily. While shrapnel does do a significant amount of damage, you can't discount the amount of damage that gas and air alone can do. Think of a firecracker or an M80, cherry bomb for you old timers. Neither of those items have any shrapnel to them, but each can take your hand off with gas and air alone. A propane tank, while obviously capable of creating shrapnel due to the metal exterior, doesn't actually require that metal to do the damage. All it would really take is a puncture to the outside of the tank, and the gases that are escaping coming into contact with a hear source and it will cause the air around you to explode. Think of a gas leak blowing up an entire house, it's not the shrapnel that causes the damage, but the gas released. While the picture of the tanks show them burned and charred but mostly intact, it could have been the gas escaping the tank, and her being in close proximity to it that caused the injuries. I'm not a professional in explosives, but I do know that flash bangs don't explode, and stingers only "pop" open to release the rubber balls. A concussion grenade, which isn't used by law enforcement at all and only sparingly in certain situations by the military, would have killed her and the other individual if one had been used in that close of proximity. It's also highly likely it would have killed law enforcement in the area as well.

[Vegas_Sioux]

protesters turning on the tribe

http://www.grandforksherald.com/news/4179723-300-remain-protest-camp-tribal-chairman-denies-accusations-hoarding-supplies

[Fetch]

http://theantimedia.org/dapl-sophia-wilansky-arm-now/ ? ? ? UFF DAH ? ? ?

[cberkas]

5 minutes ago, Fetch said:

http://theantimedia.org/dapl-sophia-wilansky-arm-now/

Now she was shot? 

[Oxbow6]

33 minutes ago, cberkas said:

Now she was shot? 

She was shot after she was attacked by a polar bear and then sprayed with Agent Orange.

[darell1976]

22 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

She was shot after she was attacked by a polar bear and then sprayed with Agent Orange.

Hasn't she suffered enough. 

[UNDBIZ]

Lol at 300 injuries that night. Is this one of the fake news sites Facebook is going to start filtering? Or is it the right kind of fake news? 

[northdakota18]

No comments about the two pipelines in North Dakota that have busted recently?

[darell1976]

1 minute ago, northdakota18 said:

No comments about the two pipelines in North Dakota that have busted recently?

Still safer than this:

Just 25 miles west of a city of 105,000.

[northdakota18]

Never said anything about the safety of trains but 176,000 gallons of oil is nothing to sneeze at either. Just found the bias remarkable that there was no mention of a 176,000 gallon pipeline spill in our community but multiple posts on an individual protester from a no-name website and posters cheering snow and cold weather putting protesters at risk. What effect would 176,000 of gallons have if it were to bust near the Missouri rather than the middle of no where?

[Cratter]

1 minute ago, northdakota18 said:

Just found the bias remarkable that there was no mention of a 176,000 gallon pipeline spill in our community.

Look harder next time.. 

[SiouxVolley]

43 minutes ago, northdakota18 said:

No comments about the two pipelines in North Dakota that have busted recently?

Those were gathering pipelines from well heads.  The standards for intercontinental pipelines are much higher.  How is the pipeline under Lake Oahe going to burst as it is 70 ft under in rocked and double contained.  Even Archambeault has said the pipeline will be approved via Trump and he's not opposed to Reservations gaining economic considerations from natural resources, as that seems to be Obama's position.  Standing Rock just put up a gigantic show that proved they are not open to business.  Any corporations would be out of their mind to work with them now.

That said, the gathering pipelines need to be improved and have more instrumentation.

[SiouxVolley]

6 minutes ago, northdakota18 said:

Never said anything about the safety of trains but 176,000 gallons of oil is nothing to sneeze at either. Just found the bias remarkable that there was no mention of a 176,000 gallon pipeline spill in our community but multiple posts on an individual protester from a no-name website and posters cheering snow and cold weather putting protesters at risk. What effect would 176,000 of gallons have if it were to bust near the Missouri rather than the middle of no where?

The Colorado River in Colorado was filled with orange  toxic waste sludge due to shoddy work by the EPA, which is supposed to protect us and the environment.  The current admin didn't do much to clean it up or even deliver apologies.  

This world isn't risk free, but we can reduce the risks.  Making them zero would make life in the North impossible.

[Parkers Pros]

Why is this on here

[cberkas]

9 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said:

The Colorado River in Colorado was filled with orange  toxic waste sludge due to shoddy work by the EPA, which is supposed to protect us and the environment.  The current admin didn't do much to clean it up or even deliver apologies.  

This world isn't risk free, but we can reduce the risks.  Making them zero would make life in the North impossible.

Was not the Colorado River, it was the Animas River.

[petey23]

4 hours ago, cberkas said:

Now she was shot? 

That's what she can tell everyone on her prison block.

[snova4]

8 hours ago, cberkas said:

Was not the Colorado River, it was the Animas River.

I believe he's referring to the spill that happened to the Colorado, while the government did nothing and said nothing about it. While this current spill is tragic, it also shows why the Dakota Access Pipe needs to be built. The company that built the pipeline that ruptured is notorious for shoddy work. Energy transfer is not, and has gone above and beyond Federal requirements, with it's state of the art technology. Saying we should compare the two is like saying Toyota has a recall so let's stop production on all Ford and Chevy vehicles.

[Vegas_Sioux]

http://www.kfyrtv.com/content/news/Go-Fund-Me-donations-cause-distress-for-veterans-standing-with-Standing-Rock-406946365.html

[Fetch]

http://min.247sports.com/ContentGallery/Dakota-Access-Pipeline-protest-US-Bank-Stadium-Minnesota-Vikings-50192806/

[Nodak78]

28 minutes ago, Fetch said:

http://min.247sports.com/ContentGallery/Dakota-Access-Pipeline-protest-US-Bank-Stadium-Minnesota-Vikings-50192806/

Wow.  security missed a chance to cut the line and let them drop.  sweep them after the game with the rest of the trash.

[Siouxphan27]

Geez.  Brett Favre will do anything for attention these days.