UNDBIZ Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 That's 12 sports. Leaves softball, soccer, M&W tennis, M&W golf, and M&W S&D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 2 hours ago, Nodak78 said: I can't say but it is safe you were correct...r u kenndey? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 22 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: That's 12 sports. Leaves softball, soccer, M&W tennis, M&W golf, and M&W S&D. looks good to me..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonadub Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 45 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: That's 12 sports. Leaves softball, soccer, M&W tennis, M&W golf, and M&W S&D. m & w tennis and w golf are required by the BSC m golf is being funded by outside sources softball, soccer and m & w swimming/diving are not required by BSC. Is there enough funding reduction in these to meet the objective? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 3 minutes ago, zonadub said: m & w tennis and w golf are required by the BSC m golf is being funded by outside sources softball, soccer and m & w swimming/diving are not required by BSC. Is there enough funding reduction in these to meet the objective? Individually no, and eliminating all of them would likely cause Title 9 issues. Gotta remember moving out of the BSC is very possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 1 hour ago, UNDBIZ said: That's 12 sports. Leaves softball, soccer, M&W tennis, M&W golf, and M&W S&D. Who exactly told the IAC this? Next Tweet Brad E. Schlossman @SchlossmanGF This committee has been a worse idea than I originally thought. And I originally thought it would be a disaster. Brad seems to be very consistent on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiouxVolley Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 1 hour ago, UNDBIZ said: That's 12 sports. Leaves softball, soccer, M&W tennis, M&W golf, and M&W S&D. Surprise surprise. The sports that have new venues this century survive. The ones that don't are on the cutting block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 1. Where'd the "safe" list (MIH, WIH, FB, VB, MBB, WBB, ITF, OTF, XC) come from? I'm pretty sure that committee isn't that smart on their own. 1a. That's 6 mens and 6 womens sports for 12. (Props to "PC Principal" for counting correctly.) 2. Are we sure this isn't Kennedy making "nice-nice" with the University Senate (and their IAC subcommittee)? Let them feel like they got to give input; however, do not forget that Kennedy said when this was started the final decisions were his and his alone (and to be done once). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cberkas Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 So I take it, this mean UND to the Summit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 6 minutes ago, cberkas said: So I take it, this mean UND to the Summit? That's a pretty large assumptive leap right there. The Summit plays everything we play right now (except hockey, and doesn't sponsor FB). As is today we'd be short mens soccer and baseball team to play all 19 Summit sports. (Side note: NDSU doesn't play Summit mens soccer, tennis or S&D, or womens S&D or tennis.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 15 minutes ago, cberkas said: So I take it, this mean UND to the WAC? fixed it for ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 10 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: That's a pretty large assumptive leap right there. The Summit plays everything we play right now (except hockey, and doesn't sponsor FB). As is today we'd be short mens soccer and baseball team to play all 19 Summit sports. (Side note: NDSU doesn't play Summit mens soccer, tennis or S&D, or womens S&D or tennis.) they gots the wrasslin''''' tho... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Just now, SIOUXFAN97 said: they gots the wrasslin''''' tho... Yup, 14 in the Summit plus FB and "rasslin'" gets them to 16. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nodak651 Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 53 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Individually no, and eliminating all of them would likely cause Title 9 issues. Gotta remember moving out of the BSC is very possible. You sure about that? UND is already super compliant and will need to relocate some of the Mens hockey expenses to women's departments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 25 minutes ago, SiouxVolley said: Surprise surprise. The sports that have new venues this century survive. The ones that don't are on the cutting block. Oh, I'm sure that's just coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperman8 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 I was pretty well convinced that W hockey wasn't going anywhere. It would be tough to sell politically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 15 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said: I was pretty well convinced that W hockey wasn't going anywhere. It would be tough to sell politically. remember these are just recomendations...he still can drop them...why would it be politically tough? only about 300 people go to the games and 290 of them are parents.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Really depends if we are looking at Football in the Big Sky and moving everything else? If that is the plan, then everything except Men's Hockey, Football, Men's Golf, Womens Basketball, Womens Golf, Womens Soccer, and Volleyball should be on the table. If we have title 9 issues we could always add Women's rowing which seems to be the scam some other schools pull. 20 schollies and huge participation numbers apparently. Iowa has nearly 100 on their roster, the Gophs have around 50. I am betting some of these girls are walking around campus and are not even aware they are on the team at Iowa unless they really need depth....Meet Susie, she is our 47th string bow seater and a valuable member of our 11th scout team in the 8's and she leads our 23rd scout team in the 4's. After that the sports that should remain or be brought back in order would be Womens Softball Baseball Wrestling Womens Track and Field/Cross Country Mens Track and Field/Cross Country Womens Tennis Mens Tennis Women's Hockey Womens Swimming and Diving Mens Swimming and Diving Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperman8 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 18 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: remember these are just recomendations...he still can drop them...why would it be politically tough? only about 300 people go to the games and 290 of them are parents.... I'm not saying I agree with the decision but don't think it will go. The difficult political part is that it gets a lot of media attention and is a perennial top 10 program in the country. I know there aren't many teams that play women's hockey but they are consistently in the top 10. 290 parents would be 11 parents per player on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 58 minutes ago, nodak651 said: You sure about that? UND is already super compliant and will need to relocate some of the Mens hockey expenses to women's departments. Get the impression nothing is certain when it comes to Title 9, but that would be a reduction of 34 women's scholarships and just 5 men's, 10 if you include baseball. Would put us at about 95 men's scholarships and 75 women's, per 2015 scholarship numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farce poobah Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Another insightful tweet from Schlossman. Brad E. Schlossman @SchlossmanGF 2h2 hours ago Brad E. Schlossman Retweeted Jason McLean Nothing bad was said. I don't think this committee wields any power. I think it is just an unnecessary show at the expense of others. ======================= Agree with all of that except the word "unnecessary". Its a way for the faculty to feel they had involvement, and at the end of the day faculty is where a lot of power resides. So Kennedy had to follow tradition, genuflect to the faculty ... and we shall see soon how decisions get made at UND during his tenure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Just curious, when did the women's hockey team last make the national tournament? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 6 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Just curious, when did the women's hockey team last make the national tournament? 2012-13, Lammy twins senior year. The triple OT heartbreaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farce poobah Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 7 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said: Just curious, when did the women's hockey team last make the national tournament? If by that you mean, we should keep sports that have reasonable probability of making the national tournament (or individual placements for individual sports), I agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 I'm fine with women's hockey staying, if they can find a way to trim their budget and reallocate it to other women's sports. Anyway they can operation with a $1.1 million dollar budget and send more $$$ to volleyball and womens basketball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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