Oxbow6 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 1 hour ago, GeauxSioux said: UND president candidate says he would make university a top-tier institution Maybe I am a Neanderthal, but I don't understand why diversity is so important nowadays. Seemed to do wonders for Dickinson State.......................... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 1 hour ago, GeauxSioux said: UND president candidate says he would make university a top-tier institution Maybe I am a Neanderthal, but I don't understand why diversity is so important nowadays. It's not...other than it should be accepted not "made". time to shake this candidates hand and send him packing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I've always considered diversity a naturally occurring phenomena, kind of like the diversity of flora and fauna found on Earth. Once you try to "create" it you're following a formula made by man and not letting things play out naturally. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Doesn't it seem a bit "forced" to try and make diversity happen? We live in North Dakota where it is mostly all white people. How hard would he need to work and how many resources would have to be used to create more diversity just for the sake of creating it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 1 minute ago, UND1983 said: Doesn't it seem a bit "forced" to try and make diversity happen? We live in North Dakota where it is mostly all white people. How hard would he need to work and how many resources would have to be used to create more diversity just for the sake of creating it? There are tons of foreign students at UND. I used to play soccer with them regularly. A lot of times I was the only white guy. Like you said, can't force stuff like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: There are tons of foreign students at UND. I used to play soccer with them regularly. A lot of times I was the only white guy. Like you said, can't force stuff like this. Tons, like thousands? Well then what is he talking about. Giving more opportunities, more programs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 2 hours ago, GeauxSioux said: UND president candidate says he would make university a top-tier institution Maybe I am a Neanderthal, but I don't understand why diversity is so important nowadays. I see lots of long business class flights in that guys future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvdebbies Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 1 minute ago, Cratter said: I see lots of long business flights in that guys future. I hope it's first class. #optics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 6 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Tons, like thousands? Well then what is he talking about. Giving more opportunities, more programs? I would say there might be a 1000 or two..."tons" of Asians in the aviation program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvdebbies Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I'm not sure why some of you are making fun of "tons". It's the standard unit of measurement... when it comes to cultural diversity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 10 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Tons, like thousands? Well then what is he talking about. Giving more opportunities, more programs? At least 2000lbs worth of assorted foreign folk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericpnelson Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 13 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: At least 2000lbs worth of assorted foreign folk. All foreign students please include your BMI in application Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxjoy Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 46 minutes ago, UND1983 said: I have always believed that having a diverse student body helps expose students to a variety of ways of thinking, and understanding that other ways of viewing the world can be a good thing. It can also prepare graduates to be able to function outside of mainly white North Dakota. I had never interacted with someone of a different race or religion until I came to college. As I look back, I was pretty clueless, and probably disrespectful. I am glad I had the chance to "grow" in college; it definitely helped prepare me for the work force in a different way from my classes. Of the 14,951 students enrolled at UND in Fall 2015, 11,789 identified as White. So, 3,162 students, or 21% of the population either didn't specify, or identify as non-white. That is a low number, in my opinion. And that just covers ethnicity! There seem to be a lot of uninformed people in this country that would be served well by the opportunity to interact with people from different backgrounds as their own. Why not foster that at UND? Apologies for the goofy quote...I wasn't directing my comment to any specific poster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 I'm sure they are having this same conversation about broadening "diversity" at Howard University and "those" similar type colleges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 If they want diversity to match "real world" conditions they need to recruit Mexico, not India. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND1983 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 5 minutes ago, siouxjoy said: I have always believed that having a diverse student body helps expose students to a variety of ways of thinking, and understanding that other ways of viewing the world can be a good thing. It can also prepare graduates to be able to function outside of mainly white North Dakota. I had never interacted with someone of a different race or religion until I came to college. As I look back, I was pretty clueless, and probably disrespectful. I am glad I had the chance to "grow" in college; it definitely helped prepare me for the work force in a different way from my classes. Of the 14,951 students enrolled at UND in Fall 2015, 11,789 identified as White. So, 3,162 students, or 21% of the population either didn't specify, or identify as non-white. That is a low number, in my opinion. And that just covers ethnicity! There seem to be a lot of uninformed people in this country that would be served well by the opportunity to interact with people from different backgrounds as their own. Why not foster that at UND? Apologies for the goofy quote...I wasn't directing my comment to any specific poster. 100% agree. I was just wondering how he wants to achieve this diversity and at what cost, based on our location in the world. If we have 21% non-whites now is he going to set a goal of like 30%? Just wondering is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 1 hour ago, UND1983 said: 100% agree. I was just wondering how he wants to achieve this diversity and at what cost, based on our location in the world. If we have 21% non-whites now is he going to set a goal of like 30%? Just wondering is all. Based on different stats ND's population now is approximately 10-12% non-white. If UND is roughly 21% non-white right now that is well above the state's overall diversity statistical findings. Not sure how some here are saying 21% is a "low number" when you take it into context with the population of the entire state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 1 hour ago, siouxjoy said: I have always believed that having a diverse student body helps expose students to a variety of ways of thinking, and understanding that other ways of viewing the world can be a good thing. It can also prepare graduates to be able to function outside of mainly white North Dakota. I had never interacted with someone of a different race or religion until I came to college. As I look back, I was pretty clueless, and probably disrespectful. I am glad I had the chance to "grow" in college; it definitely helped prepare me for the work force in a different way from my classes. Of the 14,951 students enrolled at UND in Fall 2015, 11,789 identified as White. So, 3,162 students, or 21% of the population either didn't specify, or identify as non-white. That is a low number, in my opinion. And that just covers ethnicity! There seem to be a lot of uninformed people in this country that would be served well by the opportunity to interact with people from different backgrounds as their own. Why not foster that at UND? Apologies for the goofy quote...I wasn't directing my comment to any specific poster. I don't think anyone said it shouldn't be embraced....it just doesn't need to be socially engineered. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxjoy Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 1 hour ago, Oxbow6 said: Based on different stats ND's population now is approximately 10-12% non-white. If UND is roughly 21% non-white right now that is well above the state's overall diversity statistical findings. Not sure how some here are saying 21% is a "low number" when you take it into context with the population of the entire state. Sure, if a person plans on spending all of their time in North Dakota and only interacting with North Dakotans. The statistic only accounts for self-reported ethnicity, so it could be lower. Plus, it doesn't factor religion or other identities that make each individual an individual. In a global world where people can connect with nearly anyone anywhere anytime, I believe that having exposure to numerous cultures/beliefs/backgrounds is a good thing. Knowing that so many different viewpoints exist (even if you don't necessarily follow or agree with them) helps people navigate this crazy big world, especially in situations that require negotiation and clear communication. That's my opinion, anyway. All are absolutely entitled to their own opinions, which, in a way, kind of supports my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxjoy Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 13 minutes ago, petey23 said: I don't think anyone said it shouldn't be embraced....it just doesn't need to be socially engineered. How do you recommend making ND or UND more diverse? Honest question, no trolling or snark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeauxSioux Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 1 minute ago, siouxjoy said: How do you recommend making ND or UND more diverse? Honest question, no trolling or snark. Why does it need to be more diverse? Why force diversity. If it happens, let it happen. Why does UND need an associate VP for Diversity and Inclusion. To me, the Neanderthal, that sounds like forcing issues. The world is not inclusive, nor should it be. People should be allowed to be free. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernraider Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Diversity is basically code word for "increase enrollment" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Anyone think a white kid from Crosby, ND wanting to go to UND is choosing that university for a different reason than a black kid from Bawcomville, LA is choosing to attend Gambling University? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 17 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Anyone think a white kid from Crosby, ND wanting to go to UND is choosing that university for a different reason than a black kid from Bawcomville, LA choosing to attend Gambling University? Yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 1 minute ago, UNDBIZ said: Yes? What is that different reason in your opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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