SIOUXFAN97 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) WIU beat 3 playoff teams, UND beat one. Where is your case?what if some of the "playoff teams" didn't deserve to be in the "playoffs"? fcs football playoffs are the biggest joke in all of the NCA Edited November 24, 2015 by SIOUXFAN97 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Let's say FCS adopts something that's essentially the Pairwise. Would UND be in? Also how would it count FBS wins/losses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jdub27 Posted November 24, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2015 How'd you do no Vince that bsc fought for us? Nothing I have heard has stated that If Vince says it, book it.If gfhockey says it, go look for the tweet or article that was posted 10 minutes beforehand to confirm. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Let's say FCS adopts something that's essentially the Pairwise. Would UND be in? Also how would it count FBS wins/losses?It would be a lot tougher and more inaccurate not only due to the larger amount of teams in FCS but also because of fewer number of games overall and between teams/conferences and teams playing games out of their division (both up and down). The "comparisons" used in Pairwise would be a couple steps away instead of usually just one in hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 It would be a lot tougher and more inaccurate not only due to the larger amount of teams in FCS but also because of fewer number of games overall and between teams/conferences and teams playing games out of their division (both up and down) Anyone know how the BCS computer rankings worked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Anyone know how the BCS computer rankings worked? No, that's why they got rid of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassB Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I'm thinking the BCS might not do a good job of singling out the best 2 teams, but probably does a good job of ranking the top 20 or so - at least it should get the top 20 in, not necessarily in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Maybe we should have Jim create a ranking format for the FCS to use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 You're assuming they want a system that is based on fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) Let's say FCS adopts something that's essentially the Pairwise. Would UND be in? Also how would it count FBS wins/losses?For giggles let's say SRS was the system. http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/fcs/simple-ratings-systemThe only at-large that would have changed is Western Carolina in, New Hampshire out. UND down the list behind UNA, Towson, a few others. Interestingly, this isn't the first time UNH has defied the numbers in getting selected. If I were Towson I'd be royally pissed also. http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=ncf&id=14199098Furthermore, say they made 7 DI wins a formal requirement and then followed the SRS objectively, Towson and North Dakota get in, New Hampshire and Western Illinois stay home, which seems about right to me. Not sure how EIU ranks that high in SRS, that still bugs me a bit... Edited November 24, 2015 by Shawn-O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperman8 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) My understanding is that EIU didn't beat any playoff teams. Is that right?We beat #6 seed and FBS team. Doesn't make any more sense 2 days later. Edited November 24, 2015 by Siouxperman8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 My understanding is that EIU didn't beat any playoff teams. Is that right?We beat #6 seed and FBS team.That's correct. #ThoseQualityLossesThough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDvince97-01 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I dont expect anyone to take what I say as gospel, just sharing what I was told.I'm interested to see which type of tough questions will be asked to Wilson on 740 here shortly. Do they ask about the bracket being decided before UND kicked off? If so, what is his response? It's not like there weren't 10 other people there. The question I have is if anyone would call him out for any untruths? Too taboo for a committee member to step up?I would love to be a fly on the wall in the Fullerton/Idaho St AD convo that followed the selection process.Grab your popcorn...will be interesting to see what transpires, if anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperman8 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I dont expect anyone to take what I say as gospel, just sharing what I was told.I'm interested to see which type of tough questions will be asked to Wilson on 740 here shortly. Do they ask about the bracket being decided before UND kicked off? If so, what is his response? It's not like there weren't 10 other people there. The question I have is if anyone would call him out for any untruths? Too taboo for a committee member to step up?I would love to be a fly on the wall in the Fullerton/Idaho St AD convo that followed the selection process.Grab your popcorn...will be interesting to see what transpires, if anything.I'm afraid they will spend most of their time talking about NDSU's bracket complaints. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassB Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 FCS victories over FBS just came up, in the context of IA state bringing in FCS coaches. So the theme has been brought up. Says Mark Wilson will phone in at 12:30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I dont expect anyone to take what I say as gospel, just sharing what I was told.I'm interested to see which type of tough questions will be asked to Wilson on 740 here shortly. Do they ask about the bracket being decided before UND kicked off? If so, what is his response? It's not like there weren't 10 other people there. The question I have is if anyone would call him out for any untruths? Too taboo for a committee member to step up?I would love to be a fly on the wall in the Fullerton/Idaho St AD convo that followed the selection process.Grab your popcorn...will be interesting to see what transpires, if anything.Would love to see/hear it, but I can't see any tough questions asked by Michaels... Just tuned in & now I remember why I don't listen to local sports radio, these 2 are clueless... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Dialed it in, SONOS+TUNEIN radio rules! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassB Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Michaels asks Mark: "are you fine with answering any questions that callers might have?" shortly after mentioning that there are sure to be fighting hawks callers. Oh boy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperman8 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Please post updates. I can't listen in right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 http://www.740thefan.com/On now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 First caller, what I presume to be some crybaby FU fan re: MVFC on one side of the bracket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 1st question is inebriated Moo U fan complaining about all MVFC teams on the same side of bracket. Explained away with seeding and regionalization BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClassB Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 first caller - Jeff from Fargo "can you just admit that you purposely put the MVFC on one side so that you didn't have a repeat of last year?"Mark: Basically - "no. We have a process for seeding, then regionalization." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 1st question is inebriated Moo U fan complaining about all MVFC teams on the same side of bracket. Explained away with seeding and regionalization BS.His poor communication skills tipped off that he was a FU guy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Next question is about UND. He said UND's good but just not enough votes. Follow-up is comparison of UND to EIU. He's talking about quality losses. Doesn't mention EIU's lack of quality wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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