gundy1124 Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 4 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: is it time to move away from fcs auto bids from conferences and just pick the top 16? fcs playoffs football is comical I think they can drop auto bids and/or place more emphasis on conference strength. Wofford sucked and their conference has sucked since Appt St. and Ga. Southern left. That was the 7th ranked team? What a joke. Youngstown St., not in the play-offs, obviously would have been a better game in a rematch compared to that horsecrap Wofford team. If the MVFC has 7-8 teams in the play-offs, then so be it, maybe they should. 1 1 Quote
Mama Sue Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 2 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: If there was one answer for that there would be alot of championship caliber programs around. 1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Not just a time element, otherwise the oldest programs and/or longest tenured coaches would all be champions ... Program depth me you work hard because there is someone to take your place and you would be riding the pines... show up on time, clean, practice/play hard.... after depth other things will turn around Quote
bincitysioux Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 NDSU had 2 sophomores and 1 redshirt freshman in the starting lineup. Nobody on their most recent two-deep was playing high school ball last season............. 2 Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 15 minutes ago, bincitysioux said: NDSU had 2 sophomores and 1 redshirt freshman in the starting lineup. Nobody on their most recent two-deep was playing high school ball last season............. Not NDSU's fault they have built proper depth. Bubba has been at UND for 4 + seasons .... Yet, true freshmen are still making the two-deep? Sounds like a lot of throwing darts in the dark and hoping for some luck. That is, if Bubba doesn't have so many recruits quit, leave, or just plain not play well then UND doesn't have to play true freshmen. 4 Quote
shep Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 2 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Not NDSU's fault they have built proper depth. Bubba has been at UND for 4 + seasons .... Yet, true freshmen are still making the two-deep? Sounds like a lot of throwing darts in the dark and hoping for some luck. That is, if Bubba doesn't have so many recruits quit, leave, or just plain not play well then UND doesn't have to play true freshmen. He's had 3 true recruiting classes. 1 Quote
Sioux94 Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 54 minutes ago, shep said: He's had 3 true recruiting classes. It's been mentioned many times, he apparently just can' comprehend Bubba's first true recruiting class would have only been sophomores this year and that the lack of food depth in the upper classes isn' necessarily on him, other than perhaps not bringing in transfers. Which the transfer thing is kinda funny..... you get many people say that transfers and juco isn' the way to go and they often don' work out, but yet then are disappointed when we don't have more. 2 Quote
bison73 Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 22 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: As they should be. I would expect Stig to outcoach himself if they meet down there. He has been known to do that. Quote
90siouxfan Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 44 minutes ago, Sioux94 said: It's been mentioned many times, he apparently just can' comprehend Bubba's first true recruiting class would have only been sophomores this year and that the lack of food depth in the upper classes isn' necessarily on him, other than perhaps not bringing in transfers. Which the transfer thing is kinda funny..... you get many people say that transfers and juco isn' the way to go and they often don' work out, but yet then are disappointed when we don't have more. so is Bubba robbing the cupboard by pulling red shirts for short term results to appease a frothy fanbase? Quote
bison73 Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 20 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: With his play calls being great? Yes. A coach can overcome talent with great play calling. He can also accentuate talent with play calling. Those plays I'm talking about would've been successful with anyone running them. Our OC has me a bit confused----I dont know WHY we pass the ball on second and inches. He has done this twice in the last two games. Quote
bison73 Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 12:22 PM, darell1976 said: Cue the “we want Bama” Bison fans. Even though I dont subscribe to that thought I will say it to make you feel better---WE WANT BAMA. Feel better? 1 Quote
geaux_sioux Posted December 10, 2017 Author Posted December 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, bison73 said: Our OC has me a bit confused----I dont know WHY we pass the ball on second and inches. He has done this twice in the last two games. Second and inches is one of the best times to pass. Low-risk high reward. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 19 hours ago, gundy1124 said: I think they can drop auto bids and/or place more emphasis on conference strength. Wofford sucked and their conference has sucked since Appt St. and Ga. Southern left. That was the 7th ranked team? What a joke. Youngstown St., not in the play-offs, obviously would have been a better game in a rematch compared to that horsecrap Wofford team. If the MVFC has 7-8 teams in the play-offs, then so be it, maybe they should. agreed....very well said. Quote
gsiouxo Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 With past bitching by Bison for having too many Valley teams in their bracket really paid off this year.....JMU got hosed for being one seed...pretty obvious 3 of 4 (JMU, Weber, and SDSU can throw in N. Iowa as they would have at least given the Bison a physical game) best teams in tournament are in JMU side of bracket....after watching Sam Houston the last two weeks Bison would get a better game from their backups!!! Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted December 10, 2017 Posted December 10, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 12:22 PM, darell1976 said: Cue the “we want Bama” Bison fans. 4 hours ago, bison73 said: Even though I dont subscribe to that thought I will say it to make you feel better---WE WANT BAMA. Feel better? You both need to get with the times. Its We Want Clemson* *they are the defending national champs until proven otherwise Quote
Texas rancher Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 3 hours ago, gsiouxo said: With past bitching by Bison for having too many Valley teams in their bracket really paid off this year.....JMU got hosed for being one seed...pretty obvious 3 of 4 (JMU, Weber, and SDSU can throw in N. Iowa as they would have at least given the Bison a physical game) best teams in tournament are in JMU side of bracket....after watching Sam Houston the last two weeks Bison would get a better game from their backups!!! Oh, you want ndsu to play all the valley teams again in the playoffs? Quote
gundy1124 Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 38 minutes ago, Texas rancher said: Oh, you want ndsu to play all the valley teams again in the playoffs? Get a life- You add absolutely nothing every post you make. 3 Quote
shep Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 7 hours ago, bison73 said: Our OC has me a bit confused----I dont know WHY we pass the ball on second and inches. He has done this twice in the last two games. Sorry, but on this site we never take shots at the OC. Thank you. 1 Quote
petey23 Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 7 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: Second and inches is one of the best times to pass. Low-risk high reward. Play Action. Max Protect and throw it deep where only 1 guy can have a chance to catch it. We like to run a play that starts 4-5 yards deep and hopefully gets back to line of scrimmage. Quote
bison73 Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 8 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: Second and inches is one of the best times to pass. Low-risk high reward. If your throwing a low risk pass and not a long ball. I would take the first down on the ground and keep them on their heels. If your moving the ball on the ground you dont stop. You grind them down. Quote
bison73 Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 4 hours ago, SWSiouxMN said: You both need to get with the times. Its We Want Clemson* *they are the defending national champs until proven otherwise Baby steps. We will take on Clemson next year. Quote
geaux_sioux Posted December 11, 2017 Author Posted December 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, bison73 said: If your throwing a low risk pass and not a long ball. I would take the first down on the ground and keep them on their heels. If your moving the ball on the ground you dont stop. You grind them down. The only context you gave was second and inches. It’s like a free down if you’re moving it on the ground at will. Safeties should be creeping up if that’s true and they should be susceptible to a PA deep ball. Quote
UND-FB-FAN Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 11 hours ago, Sioux94 said: It's been mentioned many times, he apparently just can' comprehend Bubba's first true recruiting class would have only been sophomores this year and that the lack of food depth in the upper classes isn' necessarily on him, other than perhaps not bringing in transfers. Which the transfer thing is kinda funny..... you get many people say that transfers and juco isn' the way to go and they often don' work out, but yet then are disappointed when we don't have more. So transfers don't count in your assessment? And Studsrud being a senior QB doesn't count because he's not apart of a "true" recruiting class? These miracle classes of "his" that are redshirt sophomores and redshirt freshmen were no where to be found when the depth issue arose in 2017. But the depth woes apparently have nothing to do with Bubba and his staff's recruiting? Man, that's just foolish. I don't think you can comprehend that Bubba doesn't walk on water and he has failed some thus far. Lastly, people *actually* get disappointed when a team only wins 27 percent of their games. Bubba chose this program and the players that were already on the roster, they didn't choose him. He needs to make the moves to win and people on here need to stop making excuses regarding "his" players. The depth is flawed due to very questionable recruiting and the schematics/strategy is mediocre at best from Bubba and his staff. 1 2 3 Quote
The Sicatoka Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 I've seen it a few times in the last pages of this thread and now I must channel my inner Mafia-grammar-man: apart (adverb): separated by a distance; at a specified distance from each other in time or space. a part (noun): a piece or segment or portion of something such as an object, activity, or period of time, which combined with other pieces makes up the whole. They used to set lepers apart (away from) the population even though they are still a part of (counted in) the population. Don't get me started on your/you're or its/it's or whose/who's. You might set me off on an assure/ensure/insure rant. 1 Quote
shep Posted December 11, 2017 Posted December 11, 2017 And some on here need to understand that 3 recruiting classes is not an excuse but a reality to better understand the depth issue and that the injuries this season were not something that could possibly be expected and that NO coach expects that many freshmen (RS and true) to fill in for All Americans and All Conference guys without missing a beat. I get that you want Bubba and Co out and as I've said before, many will join you next year if the team has only a normal number of injuries and doesn't make the playoffs. That said, it's not that those of us who do NOT support canning Bubba now are less passionate about winning or that we suffer from low standards somehow. All of us want W's as much as you do. 2 1 Quote
Popular Post The Sicatoka Posted December 11, 2017 Popular Post Posted December 11, 2017 Fix the offensive line. Get the backs somewhere to run, and by association Ketteringham (or whomever) time to pass, and suddenly you move the ball, possess the ball, and put less exposure and wear on your defense. You are dictating pace of play, style of play, and you are punishing the other team. I have no problem with a 1st and 10 dive over LG if it nets 5 yards. Heck, if it nets 5 yards call it again. But that requires an offensive line. 1 6 Quote
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