geaux_sioux Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 34 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Only to a point; there's always a threshold. NDSU physically handled Wofford today - wouldn't have mattered if NDSU had Paul Rudolph or Chris Mussman calling the plays. Wofford couldn't hold on to the ball or stop the pass. Not a great combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 minute ago, johnsowe said: They said NDSU has 13 guys out to injuries and the backups came in and did not skip a beat. What does UND need to do to get to that level? Program depth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnsowe Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 16 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: Program depth. Ok how long does that take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, johnsowe said: Ok how long does that take? If there was one answer for that there would be alot of championship caliber programs around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, johnsowe said: Ok how long does that take? Obviously for Bubba longer than it should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 37 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: If there was one answer for that there would be alot of championship caliber programs around. Not just a time element, otherwise the oldest programs and/or longest tenured coaches would all be champions ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 NDSU doesn’t do anything exceptional; but, what they do they do exceptionally well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 1 hour ago, johnsowe said: They said NDSU has 13 guys out to injuries and the backups came in and did not skip a beat. What does UND need to do to get to that level? Must have been a mis-statement...UND gets exponentially more injuries than any other program - the ones that cannot be overcome, too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homer Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 3 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: Must have been a mis-statement...UND gets exponentially more injuries than any other program - the ones that cannot be overcome, too. 13 off their two deep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 5 minutes ago, homer said: 13 off their two deep? No. Not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 9 minutes ago, MafiaMan said: Must have been a mis-statement...UND gets exponentially more injuries than any other program - the ones that cannot be overcome, too. If they had our injury situation from this year they would be hurting make no mistake. They do, however, have much much better team depth. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundy1124 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 4 hours ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: is it time to move away from fcs auto bids from conferences and just pick the top 16? fcs playoffs football is comical I think they can drop auto bids and/or place more emphasis on conference strength. Wofford sucked and their conference has sucked since Appt St. and Ga. Southern left. That was the 7th ranked team? What a joke. Youngstown St., not in the play-offs, obviously would have been a better game in a rematch compared to that horsecrap Wofford team. If the MVFC has 7-8 teams in the play-offs, then so be it, maybe they should. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 2 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: If there was one answer for that there would be alot of championship caliber programs around. 1 hour ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Not just a time element, otherwise the oldest programs and/or longest tenured coaches would all be champions ... Program depth me you work hard because there is someone to take your place and you would be riding the pines... show up on time, clean, practice/play hard.... after depth other things will turn around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 NDSU had 2 sophomores and 1 redshirt freshman in the starting lineup. Nobody on their most recent two-deep was playing high school ball last season............. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 15 minutes ago, bincitysioux said: NDSU had 2 sophomores and 1 redshirt freshman in the starting lineup. Nobody on their most recent two-deep was playing high school ball last season............. Not NDSU's fault they have built proper depth. Bubba has been at UND for 4 + seasons .... Yet, true freshmen are still making the two-deep? Sounds like a lot of throwing darts in the dark and hoping for some luck. That is, if Bubba doesn't have so many recruits quit, leave, or just plain not play well then UND doesn't have to play true freshmen. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shep Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 2 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said: Not NDSU's fault they have built proper depth. Bubba has been at UND for 4 + seasons .... Yet, true freshmen are still making the two-deep? Sounds like a lot of throwing darts in the dark and hoping for some luck. That is, if Bubba doesn't have so many recruits quit, leave, or just plain not play well then UND doesn't have to play true freshmen. He's had 3 true recruiting classes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux94 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 54 minutes ago, shep said: He's had 3 true recruiting classes. It's been mentioned many times, he apparently just can' comprehend Bubba's first true recruiting class would have only been sophomores this year and that the lack of food depth in the upper classes isn' necessarily on him, other than perhaps not bringing in transfers. Which the transfer thing is kinda funny..... you get many people say that transfers and juco isn' the way to go and they often don' work out, but yet then are disappointed when we don't have more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 22 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: As they should be. I would expect Stig to outcoach himself if they meet down there. He has been known to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90siouxfan Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 44 minutes ago, Sioux94 said: It's been mentioned many times, he apparently just can' comprehend Bubba's first true recruiting class would have only been sophomores this year and that the lack of food depth in the upper classes isn' necessarily on him, other than perhaps not bringing in transfers. Which the transfer thing is kinda funny..... you get many people say that transfers and juco isn' the way to go and they often don' work out, but yet then are disappointed when we don't have more. so is Bubba robbing the cupboard by pulling red shirts for short term results to appease a frothy fanbase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 20 hours ago, geaux_sioux said: With his play calls being great? Yes. A coach can overcome talent with great play calling. He can also accentuate talent with play calling. Those plays I'm talking about would've been successful with anyone running them. Our OC has me a bit confused----I dont know WHY we pass the ball on second and inches. He has done this twice in the last two games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bison73 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 12:22 PM, darell1976 said: Cue the “we want Bama” Bison fans. Even though I dont subscribe to that thought I will say it to make you feel better---WE WANT BAMA. Feel better? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, bison73 said: Our OC has me a bit confused----I dont know WHY we pass the ball on second and inches. He has done this twice in the last two games. Second and inches is one of the best times to pass. Low-risk high reward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 19 hours ago, gundy1124 said: I think they can drop auto bids and/or place more emphasis on conference strength. Wofford sucked and their conference has sucked since Appt St. and Ga. Southern left. That was the 7th ranked team? What a joke. Youngstown St., not in the play-offs, obviously would have been a better game in a rematch compared to that horsecrap Wofford team. If the MVFC has 7-8 teams in the play-offs, then so be it, maybe they should. agreed....very well said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsiouxo Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 With past bitching by Bison for having too many Valley teams in their bracket really paid off this year.....JMU got hosed for being one seed...pretty obvious 3 of 4 (JMU, Weber, and SDSU can throw in N. Iowa as they would have at least given the Bison a physical game) best teams in tournament are in JMU side of bracket....after watching Sam Houston the last two weeks Bison would get a better game from their backups!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 12:22 PM, darell1976 said: Cue the “we want Bama” Bison fans. 4 hours ago, bison73 said: Even though I dont subscribe to that thought I will say it to make you feel better---WE WANT BAMA. Feel better? You both need to get with the times. Its We Want Clemson* *they are the defending national champs until proven otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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