ericpnelson Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 #TimeForTime or #BringInBrooks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I see the Herald is running a poll online about whether you agree with the firing of Mussman. Found it kind of funny that in addition to the simple yes and no anser choices they had to add a third selection for those who can proudly count to potato. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeAreNorthDakota Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 probably out of our price range. Current salary appears to be 250k/year Current salary. If Pelini gets the boot he'd likely be looking at a step down of some kind no matter where he goes. I'm guessing Nebraska paid Bohl quite a bit more than he accepted from NDSU right off the bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonadub Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 probably out of our price range. Current salary appears to be 250k/year to get a top quality HC, Faison will have to open up the checkbook - probably with a combination of base, performance, attendance, scholastic, etc incentives. All these FBS coordinators will command a higher pay than Coach Mussman and his staff did. UND will have to step up to get top talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 to get a top quality HC, Faison will have to open up the checkbook - probably with a combination of base, performance, attendance, scholastic, etc incentives. All these FBS coordinators will command a higher pay than Coach Mussman and his staff did. UND will have to step up to get top talent. Faison has shown he is willing to do that, so I'm not concerned about that part of it. I would expect the contract to have multiple bonus aspects related to attendance and performance, seems to be more and more common and rightfully so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siouxweet Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 if you bring in brooks this thread will be started again in less than two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND Fan Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 to get a top quality HC, Faison will have to open up the checkbook - probably with a combination of base, performance, attendance, scholastic, etc incentives. All these FBS coordinators will command a higher pay than Coach Mussman and his staff did. UND will have to step up to get top talent. I don't think anyone (including Faison) disagrees with any of your comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 if you bring in brooks this thread will be started again in less than two years. Explain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericpnelson Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 if you bring in brooks this thread will be started again in less than two years. To quote the Dude, "That's like, your opinion man." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 The only reason I mention the ties to UND is because you may be able to get away with not having to pay as much. Also, a guy like Brooks Bollinger may not take any other FCS head coaching job other than UND because he's from the area, understands the culture, and knows what the program could be. Let's face it, North Dakota (the state, not the school) can be a hard sell for somebody to move to who's not familiar with the area. There are many things that are attractive about the UND head coaching position. The brand new HPC will be Faisons biggest selling point when attracting a high profile candidate. As much as people want to rip on the Alerus Center, It is one of the nicest facilities in FCS for a team to play in. Look around the country at other schools and its hard to disagree. The opportunity to take over a program that is reeling and turn it around might motivate many candidates to accept a job here. A new coach would be able to take complete control of the program and run the team in the direction they see fit. And finally, as much as people want to rip on North Dakota and Grand Forks, it is a great place to live. Low crime, friendly people, great schools. All things a candidate would look at when deciding to move their family here. Add all these things up, and Faison can make a pretty good sell to potential candidates. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAWNSON Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 if you bring in brooks this thread will be started again in less than two years. Agree... Brooks is not head coach material right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cratter Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 But he's a great guy. But he's good at holding a clipboard. But he was a qb at a big ten school And his dads knows a lot and is a "UND guy." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Based on what I've read here the criteria needs to include: Never runs his fingers through his hair Takes personal blame for every loss Shows lots of emotion on the sidelines Is able to walk through tailgaters row and strike up a conversation Has 100 percent control over every player's actions on the sidelines at all times Never wears ear buds when walking through tailgaters row Recruits North Dakota Stops recruiting CA, AZ, TX. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Based on what I've read here the criteria needs to include: Never runs his fingers through his hair Takes personal blame for every loss Shows lots of emotion on the sidelines Is able to walk through tailgaters row and strike up a conversation Has 100 percent control over every player's actions on the sidelines at all times Never wears ear buds when walking through tailgaters row Recruits North Dakota Stops recruiting CA, AZ, TX. http://psychcentral.com/lib/the-5-stages-of-loss-and-grief You're getting closer to acceptance...just let it out... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mksioux Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Based on what I've read here the criteria needs to include: Never runs his fingers through his hair Takes personal blame for every loss Shows lots of emotion on the sidelines Is able to walk through tailgaters row and strike up a conversation Has 100 percent control over every player's actions on the sidelines at all times Never wears ear buds when walking through tailgaters row Recruits North Dakota Stops recruiting CA, AZ, TX. You're close: http://und.edu/finance-operations/human-resources-payroll/careers/job-openings-external.cfm?category=2150+Athletics%2FCoaches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 http://psychcentral....-loss-and-grief You're getting closer to acceptance...just let it out... Hahaha. Well played... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmksioux Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Based on what I've read here the criteria needs to include: Never runs his fingers through his hair Takes personal blame for every loss Shows lots of emotion on the sidelines Is able to walk through tailgaters row and strike up a conversation Has 100 percent control over every player's actions on the sidelines at all times Never wears ear buds when walking through tailgaters row Recruits North Dakota Stops recruiting CA, AZ, TX. Don't forget the ability to field a team who is competitive and limits mistakes/penalties/personal fouls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND-FB-FAN Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Agree... Brooks is not head coach material right now Also agree. Less than 2 years of NCAA coaching. That's unacceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Based on what I've read here the criteria needs to include: Never runs his fingers through his hair Takes personal blame for every loss Shows lots of emotion on the sidelines Is able to walk through tailgaters row and strike up a conversation Has 100 percent control over every player's actions on the sidelines at all times Never wears ear buds when walking through tailgaters row Recruits North Dakota Stops recruiting CA, AZ, TX. Don't forget these criteria: Doesn't lose to a NAIA team. Doesn't use the phrase "we went toe to toe" after losing by 30-40 points. And most importantly...can actually be and function in the role of a HC. I don't dispute Muss can coach FB, but there is a huge difference between a position's coach or coordinator vs being a HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 http://psychcentral....-loss-and-grief You're getting closer to acceptance...just let it out... Firmly entrenched in Stage 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Based on what I've read here the criteria needs to include: Never runs his fingers through his hair Takes personal blame for every loss Shows lots of emotion on the sidelines Is able to walk through tailgaters row and strike up a conversation Has 100 percent control over every player's actions on the sidelines at all times Never wears ear buds when walking through tailgaters row Recruits North Dakota Stops recruiting CA, AZ, TX. Bitter? Look, I'm sure Coach Mussman is a nice guy, but things just weren't working out. He said he was angry with himself that he couldn't get things turned around, so I think he understands and accepts his dismissal better than you right now. Time to get over it and move on. IMO, this separation will probably be best for all involved, as it sounds like Coach Mussman's struggles at work were having a negative effect on his health and personal life too. He was a good OC and I'm sure he'll catch on somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Based on what I've read here the criteria needs to include: Never runs his fingers through his hair Confident Takes personal blame for every loss Responsible and a leader Shows lots of emotion on the sidelines Again, leadership Is able to walk through tailgaters row and strike up a conversation Personable, keeps ego in check Has 100 percent control over every player's actions on the sidelines at all times Respected Never wears ear buds when walking through tailgaters row Not that big of a deal, but again, personable, able to relate to players, fans, alumni, etc. Recruits North Dakota Able to assess what type of players will fit his system and give everything they have. Also, able to get the community to invest in the program. Stops recruiting CA, AZ, TX. " " FYP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 FYP So just to be clear: You equate confidence with a personal habit You think a person need to verbally say to the media that they take the blame after every loss to be a leader Showing emotion on the sidelines is the only way you can tell if a coach is a good leader A coach not talking to you mean he isn't personable and has an ego problem. Sideline discipline issues by freshmen meanshe has no respect from the players Wearing ear buds means a person can't relate to players, fans and alumni Not recruiting North Dakota to other's expectations means they can't access player talent Recruiting CA, AZ and TX is just plain wrong. Sorry but what I posted is what has been shared on this site. no need to FYP - no bitterness here - talk about bitterness there is an entire thread fueled by it, I'm ready to move on and I didn't need to make fun of the players or coaches to get there. I was just revisiting what has been posted. I'll be there at every game just like I have been throughout the transition. Mrs. Mussman (oh and please share how this being posted during the discussions wasn't based on bitterness and mean-spiritedness). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Sorry but what I posted is what has been shared on this site. no need to FYP - no bitterness here - talk about bitterness this entire thread is fueled by it, I'm ready to move on and I didn't need to make fun of the players or coaches to get there. I was just revisiting what has been posted - do I need to go back and list the quotes as they were posted. I'll be there at every game just like I have been throughout the transition. Mrs. Mussman (oh and please share how this being posted during the discussions wasn't based on bitterness and mean-spiritedness). The "Mrs. Mussman?" was meant as a joke at the time, but I can see how it came across as mean-spirited and for that I apologize. This thread is fueled by a desire to see UND performing well on the field. Now that a change is in the works, this thread has even more relevance for fans, as we get together and speculate on who the AD may be looking at. No, these conversations won't affect the AD's decision, but neither does anything else discussed on SiouxSports. It's simply a place for fans to communicate, cheer, and vent. I don't recall anyone making fun of the players, but I do recall some inappropriate remarks being made about Coach Mussman and that is regrettable (although most of the remarks were regarding his style on the sidelines and as the face of the football program, rather than his personal life). I don't believe most of the fans here are "bitter" towards Coach Mussman, we were simply disappointed with how the team was performing under his leadership. Faison relieved Coach Mussman of his duties for the same reasons most fans were calling for him to be fired, and it wasn't out of bitterness. I'm not sure why you're taking the firing so personally, but this was simply a business decision and a move to make the team better in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 So just to be clear: You equate confidence with a personal habit You think a person need to verbally say to the media that they take the blame after every loss to be a leader Showing emotion on the sidelines is the only way you can tell if a coach is a good leader A coach not talking to you mean he isn't personable and has an ego problem. Sideline discipline issues by freshmen meanshe has no respect from the players Wearing ear buds means a person can't relate to players, fans and alumni Not recruiting North Dakota to other's expectations means they can't access player talent Recruiting CA, AZ and TX is just plain wrong. No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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