watchmaker49 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Me too. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. So even if the NCAA went away then what? Kind of like one of those careful what you wish for things. Quote
watchmaker49 Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 UMN counts the games where they played the North Dakota club/intramural team, but UND doesn't. And if UND had won those games then they would not have counted them. Quote
Goon Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 NCAA hockey may have started in 1948 but college hockey started before that. If the NCAA went away and was replaced by another organization does that mean all NCAA records go away? You can spin this anyway you want, the fact remains, that UND only counts NCAA games not Club hockey games. Quote
hrkac Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Don gives the answers to scheduling one more time. http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/187827071.html Quote
BeazSioux Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Don gives the answers to scheduling one more time. http://www.startribune.com/sports/blogs/187827071.html Good God, Roman is a freakin clown. Schlossman is about 100 times more professional than Roman ever thought about being. And don't get me started on Lucia-pet. 1 Quote
Five-HoleFrenzy Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 It was a fair and accurate analogy. Could be a reading comprehension thing but I took it that watchmaker49 meant that MafiaMan's analogy was fair and accurate. Certainly puts a different spin on it anyway. Quote
Mariucci Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 And don't get me started on Lucia-pet. What he said makes perfect sense. He didn't want to sit around twittling his thumbs waiting for UND to figure out their nickname while programs like BC and Notre Dame filled their schedules. And don't even try to bring up Wisconsin as they have a LOT more flexibility in their schedule so it was very easy for them to hold space open. Quote
BeazSioux Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 What he said makes perfect sense. He didn't want to sit around twittling his thumbs waiting for UND to figure out their nickname while programs like BC and Notre Dame filled their schedules. And don't even try to bring up Wisconsin as they have a LOT more flexibility in their schedule so it was very easy for them to hold space open. Right Quote
Frozen4sioux Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 NCAA Hockey officially started during the 1947-48 season. The wins the Gophers had against UND up that point don't count, not for NCAA records. The gophers basically will count anything,; club wins, exhibitions, scrimmages, skates with the local squirt team, anything....hell they hung a banner for a rec league. Suprised they dont play tuesday nighr church league justto overcome banner envy. 2 Quote
hrkac Posted January 22, 2013 Posted January 22, 2013 Lou Nanne just on KFAN, --says after 3 years UND should player MN every year. --This is the best rivalry for 50 years in college hockey. (in response to host asking if it was big just because this was the last year they would play for a while) --Lou said that's not it, it's huge every year. example, the atmosphere up in GF every year. 2 Quote
GFG Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Regarding Bjugstad, I do believe he is one of the 2 best players in college hockey this year for sure. His points aren't showing it because he's basically molested by other opponents, but what he does while on the ice to control play on most of his shifts is unreal. It would be very hard to find someone in college hockey that can control play and be as dominant as he is. Gaudreau is probably the only other player that can be put up there with Bjugstad, IMO. Quote
choyt3 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Lou Nanne just on KFAN, --says after 3 years UND should player MN every year. --This is the best rivalry for 50 years in college hockey. (in response to host asking if it was big just because this was the last year they would play for a while) --Lou said that's not it, it's huge every year. example, the atmosphere up in GF every year. What does Lou Nanne know? Jeff Dubay says its over forever. Won't ever be the same. Quote
Stack Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Regarding Bjugstad, I do believe he is one of the 2 best players in college hockey this year for sure. His points aren't showing it because he's basically molested by other opponents, but what he does while on the ice to control play on most of his shifts is unreal. It would be very hard to find someone in college hockey that can control play and be as dominant as he is. Gaudreau is probably the only other player that can be put up there with Bjugstad, IMO. Sorry but I disagree. Bjugstad has the potential but hasn't shown it consistently. With Ambroz, Budish, and even Issackson Minnesota has big boys this year with Bjugstad being the biggest. These guys do the molesting and not getting molested as you state. I was surprised that he came back this year expecting him to get pulled up by the NHL. I am constantly looking for more from Bjugstad and I seldom see it. He is still too passive most games and it looks like he tries to turn it on and off rather than playing at a high level consistently. Net result he still has potential and is not one yet one of the best players in college hockey. Quote
burd Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Regarding Bjugstad, I do believe he is one of the 2 best players in college hockey this year for sure. His points aren't showing it because he's basically molested by other opponents, but what he does while on the ice to control play on most of his shifts is unreal. It would be very hard to find someone in college hockey that can control play and be as dominant as he is. Gaudreau is probably the only other player that can be put up there with Bjugstad, IMO. He's definitely a beast any team would love to have. A rare combination of size, skill and speed. Wrong jersey, though. Quote
LakotaNation Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Regarding Bjugstad, I do believe he is one of the 2 best players in college hockey this year for sure. His points aren't showing it because he's basically molested by other opponents, but what he does while on the ice to control play on most of his shifts is unreal. It would be very hard to find someone in college hockey that can control play and be as dominant as he is. Gaudreau is probably the only other player that can be put up there with Bjugstad, IMO. You're a Gopher fan so I can see why you may believe he is one of the two best players in the nation. He has 13 goals which is a good number but he's not even in the top 30 in the nation for assists. He is a big kid. Strong on the puck and can play. But he is way too inconsistent. I still think it's too early to tell who the top players are right now. And if the kid is that good, he would be good enough to fight off of checks. Plenty of other players are getting the job done, putting goals on the board and helping out their team each game. Quote
watchmaker49 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Could be a reading comprehension thing but I took it that watchmaker49 meant that MafiaMan's analogy was fair and accurate. Certainly puts a different spin on it anyway. Your right. Quote
GDPritch Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 I'm a die hard Sioux hockey fan but I do believe this season Minn, on paper, is a bit better & deeper. That being said, it doesn't necessarily mean UND can't beat them though (heck, with just a little puck luck we had them beat Sat in OT hitting two pipes) if we meet them down the line later this season. But even if you believe the two teams are even/real close, the Sioux would be hard pressed to finish ahead of the Goofers this season in the WCHA and rankings. Two points: 1. Currently, the top 5 teams points-wise in the WCHA are Minn, St. Cloud, UND, Omaha & Denver. The Goofers play ONLY 2 games on the road vs just 1 (St. Cloud) of these 4 teams this season. Meanwhile, The Sioux play 8 games on the road against ALL 4 of these teams. Granted, conf scheduling & unpredictability year to year is out of their control, but that's a nice conf schedule break for Minn this season. 2. To date, Minn has played 8 games against teams currently in the top 20 Pairwise rankings. Of those 8 games, ONLY 1 game has been on the road (Mankato). That's a great opportunity for pretty good home cooking for the Goofers. Meanwhile, the Sioux have played 11 games against teams currently in the top 20 Pairwise rankings. Of those 11 games, 7 have been on the road. Makes for a much tougher schedule so far. Hopefully, it makes them stronger for a playoff run. Quote
AZSIOUX Posted January 23, 2013 Author Posted January 23, 2013 May be that time to bring out the what if calculator. Always a fan favorite! Quote
Sioux17 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 at goons If you have any video requests let me know... You can drop me an email or ping me on Twitter. Got any goal highlights from Saturday Quote
scpa0305 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 You're a Gopher fan so I can see why you may believe he is one of the two best players in the nation. He has 13 goals which is a good number but he's not even in the top 30 in the nation for assists. He is a big kid. Strong on the puck and can play. But he is way too inconsistent. I still think it's too early to tell who the top players are right now. And if the kid is that good, he would be good enough to fight off of checks. Plenty of other players are getting the job done, putting goals on the board and helping out their team each game. I'm a UND fan and I agree with that post. He reminds me a lot of David Backes (although Backes didn't have the talent surrounding him). If anyone can remember, Backes had some nice games against UND also. Quote
MafiaMan Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 I'm a UND fan and I agree with that post. He reminds me a lot of David Backes (although Backes didn't have the talent surrounding him). If anyone can remember, Backes had some nice games against UND also. Groan...wasn't Backes on the Maverick team that swept the Sioux in Mankato? I think I remember that particular road trip...the only GOOD part about it was the visit to Mettler's after the Saturday game! Quote
Snake Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Groan...wasn't Backes on the Maverick team that swept the Sioux in Mankato? I think I remember that particular road trip...the only GOOD part about it was the visit to Mettler's after the Saturday game! You might be thinking about the Shane Joseph/Grant Stephenson MSU-M team around '02 or '03...That's the only time I remember being in Mankato on the wrong end of a sweep. Quote
airmail Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Groan...wasn't Backes on the Maverick team that swept the Sioux in Mankato? Ugh - Backes was a retarded douche. (sorry - I couldn't resist dragging this thread down to the level of the other...) Quote
MafiaMan Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 You might be thinking about the Shane Joseph/Grant Stephenson MSU-M team around '02 or '03...That's the only time I remember being in Mankato on the wrong end of a sweep. That sounds about right...forgot the players...can't forget the pregnant stripper in the bikini at Mettler's (and yes, true story)... 1 Quote
watchmaker49 Posted January 23, 2013 Posted January 23, 2013 Yep, for completely non-homer reporting on the Packers, siouxvikes heads over to www.vikings.com and for unbiased opinions on the Republican Party, he reads thedailykos. This is the quote that I thought was a fair and accurate analogy. Sorry for the confusion Mafiaman. Please accept my apologies. Quote
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