UNDBIZ Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 The Kubler-Ross Model: Denial Anger Bargaining Depression Acceptance I know as a fan base we're individually unique as to where each is at, but as a whole I think we're mainly through depression and moving into acceptance. Getting something (anything) new to rally around* and fully get out of depression is a key step to put the loss behind us as a whole. *You can't rally around a nothing because all it does is remind you what was there ... and depress you. There are a number, both on this board and writing letters to the editor, who still seem to be in the "denial" phase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 There are a number, both on this board and writing letters to the editor, who still seem to be in the "denial" phase. I know as a fan base we're individually unique as to where each is at, ... Uh-huh ... That tail of the bell curve of where people are at will always exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 There are a number, both on this board and writing letters to the editor, who still seem to be in the "denial" phase. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iluvdebbies Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Moving on, especially in this case, includes not belaboring the fact that others haven't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Can someone breakdown the whole trademark thing for me? Im slightly confused. Does it mean that if a nickname is being used by a school/pro team it will be rejected as an option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Can someone breakdown the whole trademark thing for me? Im slightly confused. Does it mean that if a nickname is being used by a school/pro team it will be rejected as an option? No, not that extreme. But say you want to be the Wildcats (gag): You'd better not show up to the USPTO with the same (lame) logo as Kentucky or UNH when you try to trademark it as distinct, and unique, and yours. At the USPTO link you can read up more about trademarks in their "Trademark Basics" (pretty easy). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Moving on, especially in this case, includes not belaboring the fact that others haven't. Then those "others" shouldn't be savaging those that are tired of the issue and don't want to fight about it anymore. I have had my loyalty questioned on this basis and I simply will not tolerate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray77 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Then those "others" shouldn't be savaging those that are tired of the issue and don't want to fight about it anymore. I have had my loyalty questioned on this basis and I simply will not tolerate it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Berger Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Here's an interesting article from the Wall Street Journal about the ongoing nickname sage at the University of North Dakota: North Dakota Needs a Nickname (And No, 'Fighting Sioux' Won't Do) Some guy named Dave Berger gets quoted in the article. Discuss. Dave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdahl Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 Here's an interesting article from the Wall Street Journal about the ongoing nickname sage at the University of North Dakota: North Dakota Needs a Nickname (And No, 'Fighting Sioux' Won't Do) Some guy named Dave Berger gets quoted in the article. Discuss. Dave This Dave guy is getting pretty famous, someone like CHN should pick him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottM Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 This Dave guy is getting pretty famous, someone like CHN should pick him up. Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 kind of like how hak tailored the assistant head coach job description to be only for brad berry it seems that most of the criteria for und's new nickname really sounds like its being tailored to the "Nokotas" when i read the qualifications for the new nickname imo...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siouxperfan7 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 There are 2 names that I think will be on the short list of 3 to be voted on. Nodaks and Nokota. I think these have the best chance to be a decent nickname moving forward. Here is why I think why: Nodaks: Many people are, to put it lightly, less than excited to choose a entirely new name and logo. They don't want to be known as anything else if it's not the Fighting Sioux. Some of these people you can classify then as the "no namers" who simply think "North Dakota" with no nickname is good enough. Well, being known as the Nodaks might be a middle ground compromise that they and others may rally around. If UND simply adopted the name "Nodaks" they really don't have to come up with a new logo. The interlocking ND has been used at UND for decades. Simple adding Nodaks below the ND logo would give us a name, but we wouldn't have to change too much. Old jerseys from teams in the past ,basketball I know for sure, had "Nodaks" on them. So its not like we haven't gone by it before. Not having to come up with a new logo is something many don't want to do. Picking Nodaks keeps the logo in place and gices UND a nickname without having to change things drastically. Nokota: Now there are those that want a new name and a new logo and a new identity. One thing I and others said in the survey was that they wanted something original. Something that no other school has. Well Nokota is exactly that. Cannot get any more original than that. To my knowledge, no atheltic team is called the Nokota. Itis the state horse of North Dakota. And its history is specific to being only from North Dakota. There is the potential for a pretty sweet new logo to be designed as well. A new logo that people really liked would go a long way. Of course it has already been mentioned that you could shorten it to "Nokes" if you wanted. Those are the best options I see out there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericpnelson Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 There are 2 names that I think will be on the short list of 3 to be voted on. Nodaks and Nokota. I think these have the best chance to be a decent nickname moving forward. Here is why I think why: Nodaks: Many people are, to put it lightly, less than excited to choose a entirely new name and logo. They don't want to be known as anything else if it's not the Fighting Sioux. Some of these people you can classify then as the "no namers" who simply think "North Dakota" with no nickname is good enough. Well, being known as the Nodaks might be a middle ground compromise that they and others may rally around. If UND simply adopted the name "Nodaks" they really don't have to come up with a new logo. The interlocking ND has been used at UND for decades. Simple adding Nodaks below the ND logo would give us a name, but we wouldn't have to change too much. Old jerseys from teams in the past ,basketball I know for sure, had "Nodaks" on them. So its not like we haven't gone by it before. Not having to come up with a new logo is something many don't want to do. Picking Nodaks keeps the logo in place and gices UND a nickname without having to change things drastically. Nokota: Now there are those that want a new name and a new logo and a new identity. One thing I and others said in the survey was that they wanted something original. Something that no other school has. Well Nokota is exactly that. Cannot get any more original than that. To my knowledge, no atheltic team is called the Nokota. Itis the state horse of North Dakota. And its history is specific to being only from North Dakota. There is the potential for a pretty sweet new logo to be designed as well. A new logo that people really liked would go a long way. Of course it has already been mentioned that you could shorten it to "Nokes" if you wanted. Those are the best options I see out there. 140 characters or less!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboys5xsbs Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 http://www.wsj.com/articles/north-dakota-needs-a-nickname-and-no-fighting-sioux-wont-do-1427391823 Wall street journal article about ND nickname Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 There are 2 names that I think will be on the short list of 3 to be voted on. Nodaks and Nokota. I think these have the best chance to be a decent nickname moving forward. Here is why I think why: Nodaks: Many people are, to put it lightly, less than excited to choose a entirely new name and logo. They don't want to be known as anything else if it's not the Fighting Sioux. Some of these people you can classify then as the "no namers" who simply think "North Dakota" with no nickname is good enough. Well, being known as the Nodaks might be a middle ground compromise that they and others may rally around. If UND simply adopted the name "Nodaks" they really don't have to come up with a new logo. The interlocking ND has been used at UND for decades. Simple adding Nodaks below the ND logo would give us a name, but we wouldn't have to change too much. Old jerseys from teams in the past ,basketball I know for sure, had "Nodaks" on them. So its not like we haven't gone by it before. Not having to come up with a new logo is something many don't want to do. Picking Nodaks keeps the logo in place and gices UND a nickname without having to change things drastically. Nokota: Now there are those that want a new name and a new logo and a new identity. One thing I and others said in the survey was that they wanted something original. Something that no other school has. Well Nokota is exactly that. Cannot get any more original than that. To my knowledge, no atheltic team is called the Nokota. Itis the state horse of North Dakota. And its history is specific to being only from North Dakota. There is the potential for a pretty sweet new logo to be designed as well. A new logo that people really liked would go a long way. Of course it has already been mentioned that you could shorten it to "Nokes" if you wanted. Those are the best options I see out there. miami hurricanes=canes montana grizzlies=griz montana state=cats wyoming cowboys=pokes gonzaga bulldogs=zags usc gamecocks=cocks tennessee volunteers=vols maryland terrapins=terps georgia bulldogs=dawgs virginia cavaliers=cavs when und beats wyoming in a couple months the herald headline might say "Nokes gallop over the Pokes"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 If anyone is looking for uneducated hot takes, they are all currently residing in the comments section on Facebook where the WSJ article has been shared with UND Fighting Sioux fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niouxsiouxfan Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Who? It's Dave, man! (waiting patiently) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronix Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Fighting Pike credit to hettinger_rl @ boards.sportslogos.net 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronix Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Also some very well done fan updates to NCAA Men's Hockey uniform concepts. Will be interested to see what he does with UND.http://boards.sportslogos.net/topic/102731-ncaa-div1-hockey-umd/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runaroundsioux Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Who? He plays a mean Les Paul! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Fighting Pike credit to hettinger_rl @ boards.sportslogos.net That doesn't look bad at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottM Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 It's Dave, man! (waiting patiently) Dave's not here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MafiaMan Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Nodaks? It's amazing that more schools didn't think of that idea sooner. The Kansas Kansans? The Arkansas Arkies? The Rhode Island Rhode Islanders? The West Virginia W-V's? Nodaks? C'mon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
82SiouxGuy Posted March 27, 2015 Share Posted March 27, 2015 Nodaks? It's amazing that more schools didn't think of that idea sooner. The Kansas Kansans? The Arkansas Arkies? The Rhode Island Rhode Islanders? The West Virginia W-V's? Nodaks? C'mon. University of Illinois Fighting Illini? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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