Playoffs Second Round 12/6/25: UND @ Tarleton State

[Oxbow6]

Full disclosure....Jerry fan here. Still feels like last season was wasted sticking with Simon every snap but the eyeball test matters. Simon looked better in a half than Jerry did last month plus. UND is going to have to run the ball to win. Just need a QB to make a few throws and not turn it over. Simon needs to start.

[F'n Hawks]

Just now, Oxbow6 said:

Full disclosure....Jerry fan here. Still feels like last season was wasted sticking with Simon every snap but the eyeball test matters. Simon looked better in a half than Jerry did last month plus. UND is going to have to run the ball to win. Just need a QB to make a few throws and not turn it over. Simon needs to start.

Along with that, Jerry has been running the ball a lot lately. If the QB is running the ball that much, I’d rather it be Romfo.

[The Sicatoka]

4 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

Full disclosure....Jerry fan here. Still feels like last season was wasted sticking with Simon every snap but the eyeball test matters. Simon looked better in a half than Jerry did last month plus. UND is going to have to run the ball to win. Just need a QB to make a few throws and not turn it over. Simon needs to start.

Jerry: RPO game
Simon: power run game

The OL seems more comfortable in power and not fretting an "illegal man downfield" call. 

[Siouxperfan7]

Jerry stats:

First 8 games:  22 TD's, 2 INT's, 6-2 record

Last 5 games:  4 TD's, 8 INT's, 2-3 record

 

It is really amazing the sharp downturn Jerry had after starting out so great.  What's even crazier is that in those last 5 games, the 3 loses we were in every one of those games with an opportunity to win.

If Jerry plays, is he gonna be great, who knows.  If Simon gets the start will he be bad, who knows.  But I think no matter who plays doesn't have to take over the H>re's an idea, play both.  Take some heat off of each of them.  

[The Sicatoka]

Does that align to available personnel in the running game? 

[shep]

I note that Jerry's downfall came about the time some on here anointed him a Heisman candidate.

Karma is a biatch.

[UNDBIZ]

 

[UNDBIZ]

 

[geaux_sioux]

1 hour ago, Siouxperfan7 said:

Jerry stats:

First 8 games:  22 TD's, 2 INT's, 6-2 record

Last 5 games:  4 TD's, 8 INT's, 2-3 record

 

It is really amazing the sharp downturn Jerry had after starting out so great.  What's even crazier is that in those last 5 games, the 3 loses we were in every one of those games with an opportunity to win.

If Jerry plays, is he gonna be great, who knows.  If Simon gets the start will he be bad, who knows.  But I think no matter who plays doesn't have to take over the H>re's an idea, play both.  Take some heat off of each of them.  

Now do the SOS of the last five games in comparison to the start.

[airmail]

1 hour ago, Siouxperfan7 said:

If Simon gets the start will he be bad, who knows.  But I think no matter who plays doesn't have to take over the H>re's an idea, play both.  Take some heat off of each of them.  

We all know what Simon brings to the table, and also why Jerry got the early nod as QB1. I still think he got messed up vs. USD, but I digress.  With recent play, it's a toss-up for me. Play both; play the guy that the team is rallying around; play the guy that gets the W, I don't care. J-F-W.

As for Simon, his offense averaged 30.8 ppg last season. Not bad. The problem was that the defense gave up 30.9 ppg.   Alternatively, we went 34.8 vs 20.1 this regular season which gets highlighted in the W-L column. Big difference in offensive success? Maybe not as big as we thought.

[UNDBIZ]

18 minutes ago, UNDBIZ said:

 

24:10 - Put it on the bulletin board.

[UNDBIZ]

9 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said:

Now do the SOS of the last five games in comparison to the start.

Fair, but he still struggled against Murray St, so I'm not sure it was just a competition issue.

[geaux_sioux]

1 hour ago, UNDBIZ said:

Fair, but he still struggled against Murray St, so I'm not sure it was just a competition issue.

He slumped hard, but it also coincided with our toughest games against the Dakota schools.

[CMSioux]

7 hours ago, Longtime fan said:

I’m going back and forth if Simon would be a better start than Kamamski even if Jerry was healthy?  Jerry has been brutal the last month or more.  Simon has experience and is mobile enough to escape. Has the smarts and is extremely liked by his teammates .  Jerry looks rushed or timid….almost panicky recently .  Quite possibly injured?  Overall …I would prefer to have the first 8 games Jerry but we haven’t seen him comfortable in a long time.  
 

The team seemed to unite and gel last Saturday with Simon in.  Could be many factors why that happened….however they outscored Tech 21-0 with Simon.

 Tarleton doesn’t know who’s starting so there could be a wide range of game planning. Plus ..und gets Fleming back….that would be a huge upgrade as well.  
 

Fleming, Deng at wr

Z, sawyer, Brunell, Langama at rbs 

 

Go Sioux ! 

 

If we lose the game it won't be because of Simon. 

[wheelsup]

22 minutes ago, CMSioux said:

If we lose the game it won't be because of Simon. 

There are a couple games from last year that might disagree with this optimism.. most games were the defense fault.. but there were a couple that the offense was MIA and a good chunk of that was Simon. 
 

given that and Jerry’s play the last few games.. I would still start romfo this game.. and if Jerry is healthy work him in. 

[Long Snapper 92]

All this QB talk makes me wonder, what QB has been playing the best in practice the last couple of weeks? That's where it really matters. 

[iramurphy]

21 minutes ago, Long Snapper 92 said:

All this QB talk makes me wonder, what QB has been playing the best in practice the last couple of weeks? That's where it really matters. 

That is typically what matters when coaches decide who starts. However, I would argue where it really matters is on the field on Saturdays. 

[Roger S.]

4 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:

Now do the SOS of the last five games in comparison to the start.

This!

[wheelsup]

29 minutes ago, Roger S. said:

This!

Kansas state.. Montana.. Youngstown.. salukis.. all pretty good teams.

versus USD.. NDSU.. SDSU.. tow of those at home.  I think the SOS is reasonably comparable. 

[geaux_sioux]

4 minutes ago, wheelsup said:

Kansas state.. Montana.. Youngstown.. salukis.. all pretty good teams.

versus USD.. NDSU.. SDSU.. tow of those at home.  I think the SOS is reasonably comparable. 

Two playoff teams and a team so bad their coach resigned vs the best team in the country and two other tough playoff teams that all won first rounds games. It’s pretty clearly different.

[nodakvindy]

8 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:

Now do the SOS of the last five games in comparison to the start.

8 w's came against teams whose season is over. 4 of 5 losses to teams still playing.  So yeah.

[Nodak78]

really glad Z is back.  His presence will help either QB.  #LGHs

[Nodak78]

13 hours ago, UNDBIZ said:

24:10 - Put it on the bulletin board.

Did you say trenches.  slow mesh says the QB gets 2 to 2.5 seconds to make his mind up.  I think their QB is going to be cross eyed in 2.5 seconds.

[Dustin]

35 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:

really glad Z is back.  His presence will help either QB.  #LGHs

Yep.  Been my thought for quite some time now.

[Longtime fan]

13 hours ago, geaux_sioux said:

He slumped hard, but it also coincided with our toughest games against the Dakota schools.

So coinciding with tougher competition should equal 180 degree flip on results? I could see a possible downgrade a game or two but not to the point we have seen. Very unfortunate.  22 tds  2 INTs in 8 straight games vs the “weaker” teams and 4 tds 8 INTs against the “tougher” teams in five straight games 

  Of course there’s a lot at play when it comes to offensive production. OC, talent, competition, schemes, preparation ….etc.  but having watched kaminski that last month…I would say the competition is possibly 25% of the issue as other qbs have faired better than him against those exact same teams. To me …his throwing motion/ mechanism seems to be a bit funky.  He zeros in a one wr, doesn’t go through his reads, too eager to get out and run.  Very jumpy and rushed in a messy way.  Nervous Nelly feel.  Of course the OC play calling hasn’t helped either.  Overall tho …I feel the majority of the issue is in his head (over thinking, confidence, personal issue ?) or possible injury?  What’s not in question is his talent.  Athletically speaking…he has d1 talent and measurables 
 

Not to say it would the fix …but how in the hell can an offense eliminate their TEs completely!?  When the offense was moving the ball early on…. they got everyone involved …namely the TEs. So frustrating to see no involvement from that group.  I feel this would be major upgrade and possible success for the offense if they actually included the TEs in the game plan?