2024 Non-UND FCS Thread

[NDRA]

I think the genius, that decided a coach with a .500 winning percentage was right guy to lead the program into the future, he should be the one to cover the Xtra cash needed

[UND Football Fan]

When Bubba left Duluth they won Natty, hopefully history repeats when or if he does step down. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

1 hour ago, jdub27 said:

Who's sugar coating the current results, particularly the last two weeks? I haven't seen anyone defending it. 

I acknowledged and agreed with a lot of what you said. The criticism is warranted and valid. I'm also understanding there currently isn't 7 figures lying around right now to make the fix you are advocating for. Unless that shows up somewhere, there won't be an immediate change. Call me crazy, but all the criticisms in the world aren't going to convince a sane person to walk away from well over half a million dollars doing something they are passionate about, barring something completely unforeseen, so that isn't a solution. Find me anyone on here who would make that choice. 

So why were these unwarranted head coach extensions put into place? You’re using a problem (buy out cost) to justify a problem (unwarranted extensions-need a different HC); you realize that, right?

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

If UND can fund new multimillion dollar facilities, they can campaign to acquire buy out funds for an unwarranted extension and an ineffective coaching staff. 

[Shawn-O]

9 hours ago, jdub27 said:

University President's are the ones who are involved in these major decisions, not athletic directors.
I would argue you aren't paying attention all that well if you don't think that the President and his second in charge aren't huge proponents of supporting athletics and understanding the "front porch theory" on why they are important. That being said, I have no clue what their stance is other than they see a huge importance of making sure we are aligned with our regional peers. 

Obviously none of that matters if a conference isn't interested. But, it probably doesn't hurt for University Presidents to have high-up connections to members of potential conferences you may be interested in though, at least have conversations. 

Kupchella really screwed us on this one.  Worse than Faison hiring Kyle, I’d argue.  

[The Sicatoka]

Classic AD speak: 

 

[The Sicatoka]

More classic AD speak: 

https://sports.yahoo.com/und-determined-aligned-dakota-schools-003200587.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9mb3J1bS5zaW91eHNwb3J0cy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABi0OsSZzoj52ZcvTxiqn1_qk-8JMfNuk7Ua0AShXCMfC9Yf9IESBMRc7xzlw50RGaFmqDoPXwWd4avm5x9lbtZ6OqzmK1XQhxyEVdbOu6KgSkppzNrnFTxcdRXJDEt4kWD4erP6fxjrb1yKMUT5ku69KxPTAPFimcRDpzRrYACu 

[jdub27]

14 hours ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

So why were these unwarranted head coach extensions put into place? You’re using a problem (buy out cost) to justify a problem (unwarranted extensions-need a different HC); you realize that, right?

Two wrongs don’t make a right.

If UND can fund new multimillion dollar facilities, they can campaign to acquire buy out funds for an unwarranted extension and an ineffective coaching staff. 

While I don't necessarily agree with it, I understand why the last extensions was done. That being said, I don't think it should have been two years and if needed to be, then it absolutely should have never been agreed to with the buy-out language that was included.

As an economist would say, that "problem" is a sunk cost and can't be changed, so there is not point in wasting time worrying about it. That isn't justifying anything, it is just the reality. 
The other "problem" is what can be focused on. Conflating that with what's already done doesn't help anything.

[HoopsFan03]

52 minutes ago, jdub27 said:

While I don't necessarily agree with it, I understand why the last extensions was done. That being said, I don't think it should have been two years and if needed to be, then it absolutely should have never been agreed to with the buy-out language that was included.

As an economist would say, that "problem" is a sunk cost and can't be changed, so there is not point in wasting time worrying about it. That isn't justifying anything, it is just the reality. 
The other "problem" is what can be focused on. Conflating that with what's already done doesn't help anything.

Chaves could throw a dog off a bridge and you’d defend him. You’d probably say “It’s not Chaves fault he didn’t have the budget to keep feeding the dog so he made the best decision that he could.” 

It’s highly laughable your loyalty to Chaves and this fantasy world you live in

[The Sicatoka]

6 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said:

Chaves could throw a dog off a bridge and you’d defend him. 

If the bridge was on fire and it'd save the dog, I would. 

[HoopsFan03]

59 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

If the bridge was on fire and it'd save the dog, I would. 

The dog dies. Just like the UND football program under Bubba

[GoodGood]

36 minutes ago, HoopsFan03 said:

The dog dies. Just like the UND football program under Bubba

Hoopston I wasn’t sure where you were going with that metaphor but that was beautiful 

[geaux_sioux]

On 11/8/2024 at 12:04 PM, GoodGood said:

Hoopston I wasn’t sure where you were going with that metaphor but that was beautiful 

What a saga

[geaux_sioux]

Hoopspeare 

[forksandspoons]

UC Davis safety is going to play on Sundays 

[shep]

On 11/8/2024 at 11:26 AM, HoopsFan03 said:

The dog dies. Just like the UND football program under Bubba

Ok...now you've gone too far.

No one should ever talk of a dog dying on this site.

[SiouxHawkGuy]

Yotes fan this playoff

[Kab]

Watch bison get 2nd spot in playoffs and coyotes the 3 spot 

[UND-FB-FAN]

always good to see the tundering turd lose 

[Hammersmith]

7 minutes ago, Kab said:

Watch bison get 2nd spot in playoffs and coyotes the 3 spot 

I don't envy the selection committee seeding 2-4.

FBS
NDSU 5pt loss to 16/18 Colorado (8-2)
USD 14pt loss to NR Wisconsin (5-5)
SDSU 24pt loss to NR Oklahoma St (3-7)
 

FCS
NDSU 4pt win over SDSU at home
SDSU 3pt win over USD at home in OT
USD 1pt win over NDSU at home

USD minus one game vs. Port St because of whooping cough

[The Sicatoka]

USD may have just claimed a top two seed. 

[Big Green]

Won’t happen, but UC Davis should be 2 seed.  Only FCS lose is to #1 seed.  
 

I would go

mt st

uc davis

ndsu

sdsu

usd

 

[siouxweet]

52 minutes ago, Hammersmith said:

I don't envy the selection committee seeding 2-4.

FBS
NDSU 5pt loss to 16/18 Colorado (8-2)
USD 14pt loss to NR Wisconsin (5-5)
SDSU 24pt loss to NR Oklahoma St (3-7)
 

FCS
NDSU 4pt win over SDSU at home
SDSU 3pt win over USD at home in OT
USD 1pt win over NDSU at home

USD minus one game vs. Port St because of whooping cough

You also need to factor in D2 wins for the two SD schools.  I think MSU gets the 1, NDSU gets the two, SDSU three and USD the four.

[Hammersmith]

1 minute ago, siouxweet said:

You also need to factor in D2 wins for the two SD schools.  I think MSU gets the 1, NDSU gets the two, SDSU three and USD the four.

I could see UCD sneaking in somewhere for the same reason.

Mont St    12-0, 1 FBS win(4pts over 5-6 UNM), 9 FCS wins, 0 FCS losses, 3 ranked FCS wins(UM, UCD, Idaho)
NDSU    10-2, 1 FBS loss(5pts to 16/18 8-2 Colorado), 10 FCS wins, 1 FCS loss(ranked-away-1pt), 3 ranked FCS wins(SDSU, ISUr, MSU*)
SDSU    10-2, 1 FBS loss(24pts to 3-7 OK St), 9 FCS wins, 1 FCS loss(ranked-away-4pts), 2 ranked FCS wins(USD, MSU*)
USD    9-2, 1 FBS loss(14pts to 5-5 Wisc), 7 FCS wins, 1 FCS loss(ranked-away-3pts - OT), 1 ranked FCS win(NDSU)
UCD**    9-2, 1 FBS loss(18pts to 5-5 Cal), 9 FCS wins, 1 FCS loss(ranked-home-2pts), 2 ranked FCS wins(UM, Idaho)

*Missouri St is not ranked in all FCS polls because of the FBS transition
**UCD has one game left tonight(Sac St)

I'm using current rankings, not what the opponents were ranked at the time of the games.

All records are current as I'm posting this. Several of the FBS opponents have games in progress or later tonight.


The only spot I'm certain of is Mont St at #1.

[Sioux94]

1 hour ago, Hammersmith said:

I don't envy the selection committee seeding 2-4.

FBS
NDSU 5pt loss to 16/18 Colorado (8-2)
USD 14pt loss to NR Wisconsin (5-5)
SDSU 24pt loss to NR Oklahoma St (3-7)
 

FCS
NDSU 4pt win over SDSU at home
SDSU 3pt win over USD at home in OT
USD 1pt win over NDSU at home

USD minus one game vs. Port St because of whooping cough

Yeah that is gonna be tough. Out of the Dakota schools, based on that, NDSU might deserve to be rated the highest of that 3 way tie. 

[Longtime fan]

1 hour ago, Big Green said:

Won’t happen, but UC Davis should be 2 seed.  Only FCS lose is to #1 seed.  
 

I would go

mt st

uc davis

ndsu

sdsu

usd

 

3 of the top 5  potential seed teams are Dakotas.  Und?   Nope .  Trying to win road games yet