SIOUXFAN97 Posted March 31 Posted March 31 Went back to the "line change". at 4:11 Michigan iced the puck. faceoff in the o zone (schmaltz lined up in front of Michigan goalie-weird) 3:32 have possession in the o zone and schmaltz goes skating off towards the bench 3:29 everyone other that livanagage goes for a line change 3:27 linavange turns it over behind the net 1 Quote
KetoChronos Posted March 31 Posted March 31 16 hours ago, siouxfaninseattle said: I'm not drinking the B1G kool-aid, that was more a reaction to Goon's post. There were a lot of people that expected the B1G to take over college hockey as soon as they were formed. They haven't but they have gotten better. And will continue to be good, as will BC, BU, etc. I'm very concerned that NIL (especially) and free agency will make it very hard for UND to keep up. The bigger cities and schools have a far bigger pool to draw money from and NIL hasn't really affected hockey much yet. And I don't see another Ralph Engelstad out there. NCHC teams have won five of the past seven NCAA championships!! A Big Ten team hasn’t won since 2007!!! UND has realistically the financially strongest franchise in college hockey. Every UND game is sold out, in a larger arena than most teams play in. UND has an incredible fan following. The NCHC is still the strongest league in college hockey. Sure, it will ebb and flow a bit. The east coast teams tend to get favored tournament schedules, but year after year NCHC teams have dominant pairwise rankings. I watch a lot of college hockey, and I think the competition and entertainment value in the NCHC is second to none. Colorado College also belonged in the current tournament. Who thinks RIT is a better team than CC? Who thinks Northern Michigan is a better team than CC? With Arizona State entering the NCHC, our product will be even better. Greater competition, tougher to win championships. But, I see it as a good thing. The NCHC is strong and getting stronger. Quote
franchise Posted March 31 Posted March 31 15 hours ago, LuvHockey said: If only…. split with CC and Omaha…. play UMass and Cornell …. get a better route to FF (like Denver)… but not to be and season over. Those results put UND as the 1 in SF, but UMass would still be hosting in Springfield. Quote
planetearth Posted March 31 Posted March 31 18 hours ago, JohnboyND7 said: Wouldn't UND be a likely beneficiary of NIL since it's maybe the only hockey blueblood school with a large fanbase where hockey is king? This 1 Quote
AlphaMikeFoxtrot Posted March 31 Posted March 31 18 hours ago, JohnboyND7 said: Wouldn't UND be a likely beneficiary of NIL since it's maybe the only hockey blueblood school with a large fanbase where hockey is king? There are probably a good amount of grads living well that can chip in (I plan to), but NIL is really driven by aristocrats that can't afford the $1 billion+ price tags for pro teams these days, so they "buy" their favorite college team. Quote
planetearth Posted March 31 Posted March 31 My opinions: 1. For the past several years UND has been average. I believe this really started with the type of players recruited around the same time as the new Ralph. The UND style-game has been more pro-style with bigger bodied, less-dynamic players (generalization: there have been obvious exceptions) whose games translate very well to the heavy NHL style. 2. Look at the offensive skill on Michigan vs UND. The guys they’ve had the past several years are unreal. It’s like U20 grad program. Dyneamic NHLers. Not grinders. 3. Same for the Gophers, BC, and BU. How many 1st-2nd rounders play on those teams? Game-breakers… Jackson Blake is close, but he is not Lane Hutson, Celebrini, Gautier, Snuggerud, Willander, Moore, etc. Shoot, I think Bemidji’s young defenseman is better than our best. 4. Why doesn’t UND have those players? I honestly can’t believe it. It should reload with 3-4 first rounders every year for all the reasons touched on in this thread: facilities, tradition, fan-base, finances. Used to have the game-breakers, always had a stud or 2 that were always threats to score. I haven’t seen that for a long time. Quote
siouxweet Posted March 31 Posted March 31 Coaching philosophy. They don't want the one and dones. Quote
brianvf Posted March 31 Posted March 31 6 minutes ago, planetearth said: Same for the Gophers, BC, and BU. How many 1st-2nd rounders play on those teams? Game-breakers… Jackson Blake is close, but he is not Lane Hutson, Celebrini, Gautier, Snuggerud, Willander, Moore, etc. Snuggerud and Moore? I would take Blake over those two and Willander. Heck I’d take OMac over them as well. Quote
tnt Posted March 31 Posted March 31 17 minutes ago, planetearth said: My opinions: 1. For the past several years UND has been average. I believe this really started with the type of players recruited around the same time as the new Ralph. The UND style-game has been more pro-style with bigger bodied, less-dynamic players (generalization: there have been obvious exceptions) whose games translate very well to the heavy NHL style. 2. Look at the offensive skill on Michigan vs UND. The guys they’ve had the past several years are unreal. It’s like U20 grad program. Dyneamic NHLers. Not grinders. 3. Same for the Gophers, BC, and BU. How many 1st-2nd rounders play on those teams? Game-breakers… Jackson Blake is close, but he is not Lane Hutson, Celebrini, Gautier, Snuggerud, Willander, Moore, etc. Shoot, I think Bemidji’s young defenseman is better than our best. 4. Why doesn’t UND have those players? I honestly can’t believe it. It should reload with 3-4 first rounders every year for all the reasons touched on in this thread: facilities, tradition, fan-base, finances. Used to have the game-breakers, always had a stud or 2 that were always threats to score. I haven’t seen that for a long time. Really, reload with 3-4 first rounders? How many first rounders is Minnesota going to get this year? How many first rounders go the college route in an average year? And you do realize before the new Ralph we rarely got 1st round talent. Look at our 1997 and 2000 teams and show me all the first round talent. Quote
planetearth Posted March 31 Posted March 31 5 hours ago, tnt said: Really, reload with 3-4 first rounders? How many first rounders is Minnesota going to get this year? How many first rounders go the college route in an average year? A lot more now than 20 years ago. edit: 9 first rounders last year playing/signed for college hockey. 3 playing in B10, 6 in HE. Quote
Sioux>Bison Posted March 31 Posted March 31 3 hours ago, planetearth said: My opinions: 1. For the past several years UND has been average. I believe this really started with the type of players recruited around the same time as the new Ralph. The UND style-game has been more pro-style with bigger bodied, less-dynamic players (generalization: there have been obvious exceptions) whose games translate very well to the heavy NHL style. 2. Look at the offensive skill on Michigan vs UND. The guys they’ve had the past several years are unreal. It’s like U20 grad program. Dyneamic NHLers. Not grinders. 3. Same for the Gophers, BC, and BU. How many 1st-2nd rounders play on those teams? Game-breakers… Jackson Blake is close, but he is not Lane Hutson, Celebrini, Gautier, Snuggerud, Willander, Moore, etc. Shoot, I think Bemidji’s young defenseman is better than our best. 4. Why doesn’t UND have those players? I honestly can’t believe it. It should reload with 3-4 first rounders every year for all the reasons touched on in this thread: facilities, tradition, fan-base, finances. Used to have the game-breakers, always had a stud or 2 that were always threats to score. I haven’t seen that for a long time. UND is just an average program now. Average coaching, average players, average expectations, average results, average facilities? Players want to play for the top big time programs 2 Quote
UND1983 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 5 hours ago, Sioux>Bison said: UND is just an average program now. Average coaching, average players, average expectations, average results, average facilities? Players want to play for the top big time programs Disagree- They are slightly above average. Like a minuscule amount over. Has anyone done less with more than UND Hockey the last 20 years? 2 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 Just now, UND1983 said: Disagree- They are slightly above average. Like a minuscule amount over. Has anyone done less with more than UND Hockey the last 20 years? zajac, Duncan , and oshie are all on line 3 waiting to answer that 20 year question..... 1 Quote
UND1983 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 4 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: PWR 6 … average … < facepalm > … All this tournament showed is the NCHC wasn’t that good and the pairwise isn’t as accurate as hockey nuts think it is. What a year!! Quote
Oxbow6 Posted April 1 Author Posted April 1 8 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: PWR 6 … average … < facepalm > … They are were one of the first 8 out (again) in the NCAAs. Definitely average of the 16 team field. Not making the tournament is just completely unacceptable. Quote
The Sicatoka Posted April 1 Posted April 1 The program fundamentals are fine but it’s time for the next generation to lead. Bubs could be the dad of … the coaches of Denver and Michigan. He should not be being nice dad to his players. He should be coach. Hak learned that lesson in the Judy’s parking lot. Quote
SJHovey Posted April 1 Posted April 1 12 minutes ago, UND1983 said: All this tournament showed is the NCHC wasn’t that good and the pairwise isn’t as accurate as hockey nuts think it is. What a year!! Top three in pwr are in Frozen Four. Hard to say it isn’t accurate 3 Quote
SiouxperDave Posted April 1 Posted April 1 38 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Has anyone done less with more than UND Hockey the last 20 years? Kentucky basketball? Quote
UND1983 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 What surprises me is how low expectations have become with this program. Fans are good with this on a yearly basis now. 2 Quote
UND1983 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 1 minute ago, SiouxperDave said: Kentucky basketball? That’s about accurate and certainly isn’t a compliment to UND Quote
Big A HG Posted April 1 Posted April 1 41 minutes ago, UND1983 said: Has anyone done less with more than UND Hockey the last 20 years? My Green Bay Packers. 1 1 Quote
SJHovey Posted April 1 Posted April 1 1 minute ago, UND1983 said: What surprises me is how low expectations have become with this program. Fans are good with this on a yearly basis now. People’s expectations aren’t low. But they’re not unreasonable either. There are probably seven premier college hockey programs (BC, BU, MN, MI, WI, DU and UND). Only DU has won a title since our last. We were basically a top 5-6 team all year, when we had a lot of turnover. We have some very good recruits in the pipeline. Seems premature to jump off the bridge. 1 4 1 Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 14 hours ago, SJHovey said: People’s expectations aren’t low. But they’re not unreasonable either. There are probably seven premier college hockey programs (BC, BU, MN, MI, WI, DU and UND). Only DU has won a title since our last. We were basically a top 5-6 team all year, when we had a lot of turnover. We have some very good recruits in the pipeline. Seems premature to jump off the bridge. i think alot of the above schools held on to some coaches years and years after they should've moved on and it takes time to right the ship like msu, um, wisco, and maine have done recently. Quote
JohnboyND7 Posted April 1 Posted April 1 any news on whether that kid who hurt himself at the end of the game is doing? Looked like an awkward fall 1 Quote
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