2024-2025 season

[nodak651]

1 hour ago, sioux24/7 said:

In my mind, your focus should be ND (when there’s talent) and really hit MN, specifically the cities, hard. You shouldn’t limit yourself to recruiting other areas but I don’t think the focus should be Michigan or those other regions. 

I am assuming this poster is frustrated because we seemed to put a lot of eggs into Michigan and I wouldn’t say the ROI has been great. Beal and Hurst are contributors but I don’t think they have panned out to what has hoped. Now they’re only going into their junior year so still time. 

I think it makes sense to stay in Canada - international students can't sign NIL deals so if we get a good one it will be less likely that they're poached.  There's got to be some overlooked talent in the Winnipeg area and in that case our location would actually help us for once.

[HoopsFan03]

2 minutes ago, nodak651 said:

I think it makes sense to stay in Canada - international students can't sign NIL deals so if we get a good one it will be less likely that they're poached.  There's got to be some overlooked talent in the Winnipeg area and in that case our location would actually help us for once.

International students can get NIL deals. They just can't get paid while in the US. As long as they are outside of the US when they receive the money they can get paid whatever they want in NIL. 

It's not as smooth, but these big schools will find ways to pay the players that they want. 

[Farawayfan]

20 hours ago, sioux24/7 said:

What does Mal have to do to keep her job after this year? Signed through 2025-26 but this feels make or break to me…. Or it should be. 

It will be tough. Coach Mo was the one who tried to hold players accountable, regardless of how well they could score or how many ESPN stars they had as a recruit. Seems like he was asked to come back and then discarded. Pretty sh!tty really.

[sioux24/7]

3 minutes ago, Farawayfan said:

It will be tough. Coach Mo was the one who tried to hold players accountable, regardless of how well they could score or how many ESPN stars they had as a recruit. Seems like he was asked to come back and then discarded. Pretty sh!tty really.

I believe he asked to come back. I wonder if the Hutter hiring made him feel undermined. 

[DL Sioux]

51 minutes ago, Farawayfan said:

It will be tough. Coach Mo was the one who tried to hold players accountable, regardless of how well they could score or how many ESPN stars they had as a recruit. Seems like he was asked to come back and then discarded. Pretty sh!tty really.

If I recall he came back because his family was still in Grand Forks. Whole situation is strange.  I can see him feeling undermined.

[Big Lubowski]

3 hours ago, HoopsFan03 said:

International students can get NIL deals. They just can't get paid while in the US. As long as they are outside of the US when they receive the money they can get paid whatever they want in NIL. 

It's not as smooth, but these big schools will find ways to pay the players that they want. 

Zach Edey did a lot of complaining about not being able to make any money off NIL. If they couldn’t find a way for someone like him, it must be pretty difficult. 

[jdub27]

1 hour ago, Farawayfan said:

It will be tough. Coach Mo was the one who tried to hold players accountable, regardless of how well they could score or how many ESPN stars they had as a recruit. Seems like he was asked to come back and then discarded. Pretty sh!tty really.

Don't believe all of this to be accurate...
Regardless, best of luck to him in the future.

[HoopsFan03]

1 hour ago, Big Lubowski said:

Zach Edey did a lot of complaining about not being able to make any money off NIL. If they couldn’t find a way for someone like him, it must be pretty difficult. 

It really isn't that difficult. Just go to a different country and then they can get paid. It just takes some planning and coordinating. Extra steps that the non-international players don't have to deal with. 

That is why he complained so much.

One quick Google search would have answered all your questions. 

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39882011/purdue-zach-edey-missing-profits-due-us-nil-law

[fightingsioux4life]

On 5/2/2024 at 3:12 PM, sioux24/7 said:

What does Mal have to do to keep her job after this year? Signed through 2025-26 but this feels make or break to me…. Or it should be. 

Given the low standards around here, anything 10 wins or above probably gets her a contract extension. 

[ND-fan]

I have to believe that we finish in the top four of the Summit, 19 or better season wins by conference tournament and at least two wins in the conference tournament. The latter is my belief we need to reach a championship game in the Summit. This means we need to win a game in tournament against ORU, NDSU, and SDSU, SDSU I don't think we have a shot at next year and matter a fact I don't think anyone in the Summit has a chance of beating them. That means we need to be in other side of the bracket with other two teams.  This is tall order, but she has had time to build this program now if we are going to move forward, she has to make it happen now.

[DL Sioux]

https://fightinghawks.com/news/2024/6/13/womens-basketball-fighting-hawks-announce-signing-of-guard-sydney-piekny.aspx?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0CPmOOWLgMH5jXXpLUQDX1CjSfBc4oWZNuQwRUjPsSNFvnpgZPQduWk5o_aem_ZmFrZWR1bW15MTZieXRlcw

[ND-fan]

By this forum there is zero interest in women’s basketball not single post in three months and very little if any promotion of the program in the media. What is athletic administration doing when it is not promoting one major winter sports I see other Summit league schools have few press releases and few tv spots of players etc. I get feeling they two think this going to bad season and Mallory has been keeping low profile as well it can’t be to long until full time practice begins. If they are to get fans interested need to start promoting this team and give fans something to want to come out see this team. I think they have some exciting players that could surprise a lot of people and adding of new coaches could help turn this program around in developing inside and outside game plus improve their defense.

[shep]

I think this season will cause people to chat more about UND WBB. 

Winning changes everything.

[UND1983]

20 hours ago, ND-fan said:

By this forum there is zero interest in women’s basketball not single post in three months and very little if any promotion of the program in the media. What is athletic administration doing when it is not promoting one major winter sports I see other Summit league schools have few press releases and few tv spots of players etc. I get feeling they two think this going to bad season and Mallory has been keeping low profile as well it can’t be to long until full time practice begins. If they are to get fans interested need to start promoting this team and give fans something to want to come out see this team. I think they have some exciting players that could surprise a lot of people and adding of new coaches could help turn this program around in developing inside and outside game plus improve their defense.

I hope they got a lot longer this year like the top teams in the league

[SiouxFan100]

We just don’t have enough good players to compete with the best in our conference. Only a few returning players  seem good enough. Schuler will help. Hopefully we have incoming freshman that can play right away.

[ND-fan]

I agree with how good we can be this coming year, but my hope is group of young players develop and look like they could contend in coming years. We need for some young players step forward and become leaders of this team. The second thing how much longer does Mallory get if we see no progress and were one of the bottom 3 in this conference. I suspect that both of the South Dakota schools return to top of the conference this year. South Dakota State is loaded with talent I believe their bench probable win handily against us. South Dakota new coach I believe will turn the program around and by end of year will be positioned to take second in conference. Oral Roberts is going to continue improve and NDSU will be there by the end of season. KC, Denver, and Omaha will be fighting for the 5 through 7 spots and I believe we will be fighting to stay out the cellar. Only thing makes me think not this core of players Pemberton, Ibrahim, Demers, Schiller and maybe Beal if this is the year she lives up recruiting potential. Several other of the freshman could surprise us but it usually takes year before they contribute. Hurst will be mentioned but unless she develops game playing defense as well as offense, I see no future, but Mallory probably will continue to believe in her. I think there is talent here enough to be 500 team as it stands now and could improve but question will be if Mallory can change her coaching pattern of past few years my guess is no. 

[ND-fan]

Little to nothing about our women’s basketball program after they are preparing for the regular season. I did see on Instagram some clips and pictures of the team working out. It looks like Hurst has lost weight and looks to be better physical condition should help have more complete game. The new training people look to be making difference in all the programs. Athletic department needs to do more promoting  men’s and women’s basketball I see NDSU is advertising  there programs and trying to sell tickets plus there coaches are making there rounds to the media.  To not knock hockey we’re promoting it everywhere but rest of the programs seem to be after thought and women’s basketball which is growing nationally but here we’re not even trying to get on band wagon to also grow the support.

[SiouxFan100]

Another rebuilding year?

ugh

[gfhockey]

https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/college/und-womens-basketball-hopeful-hungry-team-can-compete-in-summit-league
 

heard this before. They are so bonded!

[Kab]

Who will the starters be?

7 Canadians on the team

[ND-fan]

I have to think that my guess will be Walker Demers, Pemberton, Hurst, Aumer, and Beal or Owen based on Mallory past coaching she will lead with experience. I would expect that VanderWal and  Ibrahim will get minutes. I would think Horne and Schiller will get playing time. The rest of freshmen based on past with Mallory will get few minutes but they won’t get to play major minutes until they proved themselves in practices and short minutes they are playing in games. But in today’s game with player turn over is so much you need players that can play immediately.

I have problem with this because then we’re always recruiting players that have to be developed and they spend their college career to become high quality player. Rarely are we recruiting high talent players that can step in and play immediately but need to just adjust division one basketball. Kacie was one of exceptions even she had hard time getting big minutes early in her career and she was hurt also that also slowed her but her minutes were curtailed. SDSU seems to have one or two girls each year they develop as freshmen that can play immediately first year and by end of the year they look like junior or senior playing for them giving them significant minutes. I don’t know if always they have recruited superior talent or if it’s coaching, but they play their freshmen a lot more early in the season to help develop their talent quicker. All I know we need to change something either our recruiting or how we coach or both. If I was Mallory I would be looking hard at what we’re doing because if your stagnant like we have been with team bottom half and our peak year was being third in conference and playing one done in conference tournament. I have been real fan ever hopeful but I am tired of us trying to rebuild again. Also finding one star like Kacie is not enough we need team of elites that on any given night somebody can step up carry us to win and team plays good defense to always in games. The preseason pick for us is probably right if not generous. My hope new coaches they have hired will mark change in the program.

[MoSiouxFan]

43 minutes ago, ND-fan said:

I have to think that my guess will be Walker Demers, Pemberton, Hurst, Aumer, and Beal or Owen based on Mallory past coaching she will lead with experience. I would expect that VanderWal and  Ibrahim will get minutes. I would think Horne and Schiller will get playing time. The rest of freshmen based on past with Mallory will get few minutes but they won’t get to play major minutes until they proved themselves in practices and short minutes they are playing in games. But in today’s game with player turn over is so much you need players that can play immediately.

I have problem with this because then we’re always recruiting players that have to be developed and they spend their college career to become high quality player. Rarely are we recruiting high talent players that can step in and play immediately but need to just adjust division one basketball. Kacie was one of exceptions even she had hard time getting big minutes early in her career and she was hurt also that also slowed her but her minutes were curtailed. SDSU seems to have one or two girls each year they develop as freshmen that can play immediately first year and by end of the year they look like junior or senior playing for them giving them significant minutes. I don’t know if always they have recruited superior talent or if it’s coaching, but they play their freshmen a lot more early in the season to help develop their talent quicker. All I know we need to change something either our recruiting or how we coach or both. If I was Mallory I would be looking hard at what we’re doing because if your stagnant like we have been with team bottom half and our peak year was being third in conference and playing one done in conference tournament. I have been real fan ever hopeful but I am tired of us trying to rebuild again. Also finding one star like Kacie is not enough we need team of elites that on any given night somebody can step up carry us to win and team plays good defense to always in games. The preseason pick for us is probably right if not generous. My hope new coaches they have hired will mark change in the program.

Wouldn't surprise me to see Schiller eventually work her way into the starting lineup.  She's a winner (with talent).

[Kab]

Just hope all the players are team players

from what I saw last year too much individual play, no passing game and some with no defense

looking toward to see what Schiller can do

[SiouxFan100]

The women start off tomorrow (nov4) at Youngstown State on ESPN+. Looking for a good showing. Please give us some hope that women’s bb can be competitive this year!

[UND92,96]

I would be pretty stunned if Schiller isn't an immediate starter. I also think you can draw some conclusions about the impact she'll have by looking at what Logan Nissley did last year at Nebraska. Nissley made the Big Ten all-freshman team and scored 7 ppg. While they're obviously different types of players, Schiller was the better player in high school in my opinion. The 2023 state championship game should have erased any doubts about that. If Nissley could do that as a freshman against Big Ten competition, I'd look for Schiller to do considerably more against Summit competition.