SlowHand Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 8 hours ago, Oxbow6 said: There isn't one of my Fargo/Bison season ticket holder buddies that are excited about him next fall. Because Cam is going to be back next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petey23 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 3 hours ago, HoopsFan03 said: So the NCAA can make billions off the kids, but then the kids can’t be paid because they aren’t “professionals”??? That makes literally 0 sense. And best part for the NCAA and Schools is they still aren't paying athletes to make them money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 So no one answered my question: how much money does UND have for NIL? What group, non-profit?, is advertising for and collecting funds? The Minneapolis paper says PJFleck is looking for someone with $1M for the NIL fund for his new QB…whomever that will be. Other colleges are offering up to $2M for QBs. So that is how NIL has changed college sports. Wonder why Tommy entered the transfer portal? Why Bison are entering it? All this talk of new coaches, recruiting, and facilities needs $$$$$. Someone posted we need to clean house from the ground up. At first I was offended (somewhat). When I see these dollars floating around, I wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gfhockey Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, Mama Sue said: So no one answered my question: how much money does UND have for NIL? What group, non-profit?, is advertising for and collecting funds? The Minneapolis paper says PJFleck is looking for someone with $1M for the NIL fund for his new QB…whomever that will be. Other colleges are offering up to $2M for QBs. So that is how NIL has changed college sports. Wonder why Tommy entered the transfer portal? Why Bison are entering it? All this talk of new coaches, recruiting, and facilities needs $$$$$. Someone posted we need to clean house from the ground up. At first I was offended (somewhat). When I see these dollars floating around, I wonder. We don’t have one ndsu does chaves is on record saying he wants to sit back and watch. Then think philosophical about whether we need it or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 You have got to be kidding me….. well then get community leaders involved…wow sit back and wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AJS Posted December 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 3, 2023 I love what UND is doing w/ Alston & FCOA. I absolutely would take that over an NIL fund. For UND, there’s a cap that everyone knows on a yearly basis. What I would fear about NIL is what’s playing out now. There’s a sliding scale. IMO it’s not sustainable for a school the size of UND IF you really want to be a player. What I mean is keeping any player that would potentially get 6 figures from a P5 school. That’s a battle you might “win” for a year or two, but not long term. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 How much total NIL money would it take our UND for all sports? I don’t see the greater GF area able to raise that kind of money so you raise money for a QB but not the rest of the offense? Good way to piss off some players 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Wow, a lot of "We just can't do it" thinking here. No wonder we can't build our non-hockey Division I programs, the "can't do" mentality prevents us from getting past square one. The "sit back and wait" approach won't work in this environment. I don't want to become the next Northern Colorado. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geaux_sioux Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, fightingsioux4life said: Wow, a lot of "We just can't do it" thinking here. No wonder we can't build our non-hockey Division I programs, the "can't do" mentality prevents us from getting past square one. The "sit back and wait" approach won't work in this environment. I don't want to become the next Northern Colorado. Welcome to Grand Forks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Sue Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Well I am surprised hockey folks are not rabid about this wait and see. And I was once a very rabid hockey mom. time to get ‘ER done and yes I have some concerns going forward with this whole NIL thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux>Bison Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 48 minutes ago, Kab said: How much total NIL money would it take our UND for all sports? I don’t see the greater GF area able to raise that kind of money so you raise money for a QB but not the rest of the offense? Good way to piss off some players You could do it like the green and gold collective and have a lot of players in the pool but not so much $$$ to go around. some collective are favoring men’s sports and some are including women’s . Lawsuits have already started to happen even though not sure what foot they have to stand on legally. Collectives are not bound by title IX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux>Bison Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 21 hours ago, Kab said: Hear their is an emergency meeting tomorrow of Fargo team makers to discuss raising money for NIL there are 3 bison that have been offered 6 figure nils to transfer according to Izzo Miller is probably one of them, really turned around his play since the UND game. I’m sure the others are o line and maybe a guy on the defense NDSU trying to chase the money isn’t going to end well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted December 3, 2023 Author Share Posted December 3, 2023 Well the transfer portal officially opens tomorrow. Guessing we haven’t seen the end of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Don’t mean to move the conversation in a different direction, but genuinely curious if the NIL “world” has been a major influence in hockey yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDSU grad Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 18 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said: Miller is probably one of them, really turned around his play since the UND game. I’m sure the others are o line and maybe a guy on the defense NDSU trying to chase the money isn’t going to end well Speculation is that’s it’s Miller, Kopp, Wisnewski, and Zabel. JMO, but I don’t think we see any guys entering until the season is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Don’t mean to move the conversation in a different direction, but genuinely curious if the NIL “world” has been a major influence in hockey yet. For the elite of the elite players, yes. Overall, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, AJS said: For the elite of the elite players, yes. Overall, no. If it becomes a major influence will UND be positioned well to stay as competitive as they’ve been? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwestern Hawk Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bison06 said: If it becomes a major influence will UND be positioned well to stay as competitive as they’ve been? It’s not going to be a major influence at FCS or even G5. It will be a factor, but not a factor like the very top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bison06 said: If it becomes a major influence will UND be positioned well to stay as competitive as they’ve been? I think so. I’m not worried about it at all. Facilities are still #1 in the country, Alston / FCOA is $10K a year. They’ll always be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 52 minutes ago, Sioux>Bison said: Miller is probably one of them, really turned around his play since the UND game. I’m sure the others are o line and maybe a guy on the defense NDSU trying to chase the money isn’t going to end well Completely agree. It’s not sustainable to do year after year. One other layer I didn’t think of, which might also be an issue is it would set a potentially dangerous precedent. A starter who would get interest (maybe not high / middle P5), but low P5 / high G5, might see that and push for more $ or he’ll enter. A guy that previously wouldn’t have. If those NDSU rumors are true, I’m fascinated to see it play out. Selfishly, I hope they chase it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 18 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said: It’s not going to be a major influence at FCS or even G5. It will be a factor, but not a factor like the very top. The top ones will enter the portal if and when they become that good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwestern Hawk Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, Kab said: The top ones will enter the portal if and when they become that good I would think guys who start as FROSH and SOPH at FCS level will be very tough to keep in programs at least for awhile til the transfer portal shakes out a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJS Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Back to UND. Anybody else find it odd that we haven’t heard any of the “Covid extra year” guys say they are coming back? I’m starting to doubt Bo coming back. You just think we would have heard by now if he was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 53 minutes ago, Midwestern Hawk said: It’s not going to be a major influence at FCS or even G5. It will be a factor, but not a factor like the very top. I was asking specifically about hockey, but I disagree that NIL won’t be a major influence at FCS or G5. The best players at those levels will continue to be poached every year from the big boys with even minimal amounts. FCS will be significantly diminished in its talent level in my view as a result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kab Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 For some reason I thought Bo was coming back if someone enters tomorrow can they still play in the fcs playoffs the rest of the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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