2024 UND Football

[JacksonW]

6 hours ago, Oxbow6 said:

This garbage is on par with the xG drivel when the hockey team tanks.

Which is an analytic that every hockey coach pays attention to when it’s available.

[SIOUXFAN97]

21 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

Not SWAC.
Not Ivy.
Others? 

meac?

[Oxbow6]

24 minutes ago, JacksonW said:

Which is an analytic that every hockey coach pays attention to when it’s available.

Cause it lessens the sting of a 4-0 drubbing??

Now back to FB.....completion percentage!

[UNDTIM20]

Sam Herder said on Dumb Izzo this morning that if UND wins out we will make the playoffs. 

[Kab]

1 minute ago, UNDTIM20 said:

Sam Herder said on Dumb Izzo this morning that if UND wins out we will make the playoffs. 

Won’t happen

[The Sicatoka]

3 minutes ago, UNDTIM20 said:

Sam Herder said on Dumb Izzo this morning that if UND wins out we will make the playoffs. 

He's doing that to make an L sting even more. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

Just now, The Sicatoka said:

He's doing that to make an L sting even more. 

Will two home back-to-back blowout losses to conference rivals South Dakota State and South Dakota in 2024 have the same effect that two home back-to-back blowout losses to conference rivals Montana and Montana State had in 2013??

[geaux_sioux]

7 minutes ago, UNDTIM20 said:

Sam Herder said on Dumb Izzo this morning that if UND wins out we will make the playoffs. 

What a nightmare that would be

[The Sicatoka]

5 minutes ago, UND-FB-FAN said:

Will two home back-to-back blowout losses to conference rivals South Dakota State and South Dakota in 2024 have the same effect that two home back-to-back blowout losses to conference rivals Montana and Montana State had in 2013??

I'll give you 750,000 reasons why it won't. 

[The Sicatoka]

Massey has UND as a 32% chance against USD and 55% against ISUr. 

And ISUr is on the road and we know the road woes. 

[UND-FB-FAN]

19 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said:

I'll give you 750,000 reasons why it won't. 

Who would have thought that football staff management, and, overall, the football program, would be in a similar position (if not actually worse) now compared to 2013?
Unbelievable, to a certain degree. No freedom to improve staffing is a horrible position to be in.

Worst part was this staff was identified years ago as being incapable, my many, and there was communication to AD prior to extension(s), but yet, here we are. Complete ignorance.  

[UND1983]

1 hour ago, geaux_sioux said:

What a nightmare that would be

Right, so we can get our ass kicked in the first round yet again

[The Sicatoka]

5 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

Right, so we can get our ass kicked in the first round yet again

... on the road. 

[Hawkster]

2 hours ago, The Sicatoka said:

Massey has UND as a 32% chance against USD and 55% against ISUr. 

And ISUr is on the road and we know the road woes. 

After the upcoming blowout this Saturday the percentage against ISUr will drop unless ISUr lays an egg this week.   I'd venture a guess that it's 50% at best by the time we get to ISUr.

[The Sicatoka]

1 hour ago, Hawkster said:

After the upcoming blowout this Saturday the percentage against ISUr will drop unless ISUr lays an egg this week.   I'd venture a guess that it's 50% at best by the time we get to ISUr.

Fair.

[Siouxperman8]

I know it's going against the grain here but my hope is that we win the last 2 games, make the playoffs and win a couple of games there too.   I am not counting on that happening but I don't ever see myself hoping we lose game.

[fightingsioux4life]

17 minutes ago, Siouxperman8 said:

I know it's going against the grain here but my hope is that we win the last 2 games, make the playoffs and win a couple of games there too.   I am not counting on that happening but I don't ever see myself hoping we lose game.

All faith in this coaching regime has evaporated. And that loss of faith has trickled down to the players. Once that happens, the coaching regime is living on borrowed time.

[UND Football Fan]

The cliche is complementary football. We do not have that.
 

Offensively we cannot score 50 points a game. Against middle not lower tier we move the ball well, against SDSU, NDSU possibly USD it will be a struggle (as shown in the NDSU and SDSU game and USD/SDSU game teams had defenses that slowed each others offenses and were dog fights) Defense we have is probably lower mid tier or upper lower tier. I may be crazy but special teams were pretty good last year, this year probably more average to below average. 
 

One could argue difference between 7-5 to 5-7. Also our last two playoff losses we get down by two scores early and it’s a battle to get to a tie which we still lose by a TD. 
 

I am disappointed with ALL defensive coaches (Head coach is defensive as well)
 

How the last three years went, (road losses should have brought concern sooner)  there is no reason for major changes. 
 

I do want the players and team play with effort and play for each other these last two games.  

 

 

[ND-fan]

Season is over far as I am concerned. We are in no playoff hunt and way the team is right now we’re not capable of winning. Defense loss of front line people and playing hurt with number players on defense now puts our average defense in bottom of third of FCS football. I thought we should have brought in more transfers last spring but now thinking about our situation that may not have been possible.  To bring in transfer you need to make commitment of playing time and financial commitment as well. What do you with players here that maybe equal or better than what you’re bringing. This brings you to team chemistry and if you loose your top existing talent you might be worse shape than before. The problem then lies in recruitment process of getting build up more high quality players in the pipeline. This has been problem here at Und to get enough top talent recruited here but I think this has been the problem whether we like it or not a lot of time we have been third choice behind NDSU and SDSU for number of reasons but bottom line it has been success of the other programs being there first in all phases of being division I program .So then I looked at other sister school of USD and they have gone to recruiting players more from areas that produce more football players but here this also comes with baggage too. The first they are winning but look the fan support has not been to where they fill the house it may be Turing around but Dakota fans like to see local kids performing and they come to the games because of that. Und has worked hard improving facilities which will show up in better recruits but this is not going to happen immediately. The question then lies do we have personnel to recruit long term to get there and for lot number of people on here would say no ,but then if we start to look for replacement what qualities does Und want with in change in program.  This is what I think about because it comes down they would want majority of what Bubba is doing  working with longterm alumni to get support to build new facilities, find majority of players from the state and regionally where fans support the team by attendance, recruits are good academically and become involved in community, and look to be long term coach here not here for couple years leave the program in mess after they move on to their next opportunity. This is a where we are at number of people just want to win now here on site but I think and administration is some where between now. This was failure of administration with last extension not to put in transition plan if expectation were not being met and have plan of transition to keep what has been built here not go back to where were under Mussman or Murphy in Und history of football. The remainder of this season should be spent on retaining our football players and staff getting out on recruiting trail hard to find players that can make immediate impact on the program. Sad year we went from having chance in the playoffs to this. The problem we started with team that had stay intact that worked until second half of the season NDSU game alone how much talent was lost up front.

[UND-FB-FAN]

4 hours ago, ND-fan said:

Und has worked hard improving facilities which will show up in better recruits but this is not going to happen immediately. The question then lies do we have personnel to recruit long term to get there and for lot number of people on here would say no ,but then if we start to look for replacement what qualities does Und want with in change in program.  This is what I think about because it comes down they would want majority of what Bubba is doing  working with longterm alumni to get support to build new facilities, find majority of players from the state and regionally where fans support the team by attendance, recruits are good academically and become involved in community, and look to be long term coach here not here for couple years leave the program in mess after they move on to their next opportunity. This is a where we are at number of people just want to win now here on site but I think and administration is some where between now

Even with the nice facilities, the top recruits will choose NDSU, SDSU and perhaps now even USD before UND. Why, because results still matter more than facilities. The intangibles of coaching are not allowing UND to get the most out of their current student-athletes; hence, no playoff wins, minimal road wins, and a complete inability to consistently compete with NDSU and SDSU. 
 

With all that said, what you’ve identified is correct. Administration is beyond content with the building progress and fundraising efforts of Bubba Schweigert, the academic success of the football student-athletes, and the local angle.
 

There is absolutely no desire by UND to be the best, and in my opinion, given football is ultimately a results-driven team game of competition, this is a crucial mistake and error. 

[SuhakiYeahYeah]

 

Won't change anything and fix our issues with the staff yadda yadda, but this has been a consistent issue that needs to be addressed 

[UNDTIM20]

Who do we lose to the transfer portal after this year is over? Any young players or upcoming 5th year seniors that want to get away from Bubba for there last year? Just curious…..

[Sioux94]

13 hours ago, SuhakiYeahYeah said:

 

Won't change anything and fix our issues with the staff yadda yadda, but this has been a consistent issue that needs to be addressed 

Remember watching the replay during the game and ya....I was like holy crap how did they miss that! There were actually 2 different players holding. Wouldn't have changed end result of the game as mentioned, but  a proper call there may have prevented them from getting 7 on that drive. In hindsight Bubba should have blown up even more than he did and got a personal foul, maybe woulda fired up the team. 

[tnt]

On 11/11/2024 at 7:59 PM, Siouxperman8 said:

I know it's going against the grain here but my hope is that we win the last 2 games, make the playoffs and win a couple of games there too.   I am not counting on that happening but I don't ever see myself hoping we lose game.

At the risk of being overdone --

[Midwestern Hawk]

On 11/25/2023 at 5:05 PM, Midwestern Hawk said:

2024 Season:

 

Assuming Tommy is QB, Coordinators are the same and Bubba is the head coach...

2024 North Dakota Football Schedule
Aug. 31            at Iowa State -L
Sept. 7            vs. Montana-TOSS UP
Sept. 14          vs. Idaho State-TOSS UP
Sept. 21          vs. San Diego-W
Sept. 28          vs. Murray State*-W
Oct. 5               at North Dakota State*-L
Oct. 12             BYE
Oct. 19            vs. Northern Iowa*-W
Oct. 26             at Youngstown State*-L
Nov. 2              at Indiana State*-TOSS UP
Nov. 9              vs. South Dakota State*-L
Nov. 16            vs. South Dakota*-TOSS UP
Nov. 23            at Illinois State*-L

 

3 WINS

4 TOSS UPS

5 LOSSES

Split the toss ups and we finish with 5 wins and 7 losses...

 

 

Its as predictable as taxes.