ChetSteadman Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 23 minutes ago, scpa0305 said: I later saw that this may have all been blown up for no reason. Sounds like they are probably staying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 39 minutes ago, jk said: Really only one clunker, 2002, since Blais took over 2018 and especially 2019 were sort of clunkers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting Sioux 23 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, Dustin said: 2018 and especially 2019 were sort of clunkers. I would agree with your characterizations. Although, I would also note that, we finished 14th in the Pairwise in 2018 (4 teams "stole" bids). Most years we make the tournament in that position. We finished 20th in 2019, so we weren't really even a "bubble" team that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting Sioux 23 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Also, for those interested, CHN has historical pairwise data back to 2002-2003. In that time frame, here is where we have finished: 2002-2003: 10th 2003-2004: 1st 2004-2005: 8th 2005-2006: 7th 2006-2007: 10th 2007-2008: 3rd 2008-2009: 8th 2009-2010: 5th 2010-2011: 2nd 2011-2012: 4th 2012-2013: 8th 2013-2014: 14th 2014-2015: 2nd 2015-2016: 3rd 2016-2017: 10th 2017-2018: 14th 2018-2019: 20th 2019-2020: 1st 2020-2021: 2nd* 2021-2022: 7th The average finish in that 20-year timeframe was 6.95, or a #2 seed. The breakdown by NCAA Tournament seed: 1 seed: 7 times (35%) 2 seed: 6 times (30%) 3 seed: 3 times (15%) 4 seed: 1 time (5%) Missed Tournament: 2 times (10%) No Tournament: 1 time (5%) *As there was no intra-conference play in 2020-2021 due to Covid, the Pairwise results were likely inaccurate and not meaningful. The NCAA Selection Committee ultimately chose North Dakota as the #1 Overall Seed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 I think the point of the post I was responding to was that even years when UND failed to qualify, it was in the neighborhood. Finishing 20th means your last few weeks were relevant because you could still play your way up and in. Compare that to examples from this year of former glory: BC 28, WI 37, Miami 46, Maine 51. By UND's standards, 20th is very poor, the worst in two decades. But it's not an embarrassment as those others listed were. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fighting Sioux 23 Posted March 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2022 To put UND's 6.35 average Pairwise finish into further perspective, here are the next highest teams: Denver Average Finish: 9.0 Best Finish: 1st (2016-2017) Worst Finish: 26th (2020-2021) (non-Covid: 23rd (2013-2014)) Minnesota Average Finish: 9.35 Best Finish: 1st (2006-2007 and 2013-2014) Worst Finish: 24th (2009-2010) Boston College Average Finish: 9.45 Best Finish: 1st (2004-2005 and 2011-2012) Worst Finish: 34th (2018-2019) Michigan Average Finish: 11.90 Best Finish: 1st (2007-2008 and 2021-2022) Worst Finish: 37th (2016-2017) 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Awesome numbers. Thanks for crunching them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fighting Sioux 23 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, jk said: Awesome numbers. Thanks for crunching them. Not a problem. I also looked at Minnesota State's. It shows a stark contrast to their success before and after conference realignment: Pre-Conference Realignment (2002-2013) Average Finish: 26.55 Best Finish: 11th (2012-2013) Worst Finish: 49th (2011-2012) Made/Missed NCAA Tournament: 2/9 Post-Conference Realignment (2013-2022) Average Finish: 8.55 Best Finish: 1st (2014-2015 and 2020-2021) Worst Finish: 28th (2016-2017) Made/Missed NCAA Tournament: 7/2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crb1 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 21 minutes ago, Fighting Sioux 23 said: Not a problem. I also looked at Minnesota State's. It shows a stark contrast to their success before and after conference realignment: Pre-Conference Realignment (2002-2013) Average Finish: 26.55 Best Finish: 11th (2012-2013) Worst Finish: 49th (2011-2012) Made/Missed NCAA Tournament: 2/9 Post-Conference Realignment (2013-2022) Average Finish: 8.55 Best Finish: 1st (2014-2015 and 2020-2021) Worst Finish: 28th (2016-2017) Made/Missed NCAA Tournament: 7/2 Like I have said. No one has benefited more than Mankato from the conference realignment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Baker Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 hours ago, The Sicatoka said: Why'd the words "Boston" and "University" just pop into my head? However, it is rather disturbing that Wisconsin and Boston College had descended rather quickly. If it can happen to those two, anyone is susceptible. Crazy to think, but if Boston College does not make the 2023 Frozen Four, it will tie their longest drought in school history without a frozen four appearance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Benny Baker said: Crazy to think, but if Boston College does not make the 2023 Frozen Four, it will tie their longest drought in school history without a frozen four appearance. Not quite ... 1990 to 1998. (But 2016 to 2023 would be gettin' up there.) Or are you saying if not in 2023 they tie (because 2016 to 2024 would be the tie). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Schlossman is thinking WMU's Bussi is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny Baker Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: Not quite ... 1990 to 1998. (But 2016 to 2023 would be gettin' up there.) Or are you saying if not in 2023 they tie (because 2016 to 2024 would be the tie). The latter point was what I had intended to convey. Took me by surprise by how much of a frozen four dry spell they’re currently in for BC standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 hour ago, The Sicatoka said: Schlossman is thinking WMU's Bussi is gone. @NHLBruins just tweeted out they've signed Bussi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tnt Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 So, I wonder if Zach Dubinsky is the brother of Aiden Dubinsky who is committed to Duluth. Wonder how soon before we see Duluth active in the portal, although probably more so on the back end. Wouldn’t mind getting Daschke and preventing Duluth from getting him as long as he fits the profile of the kind of guy they want. Looks like he ate up a lot of minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 Spencer Stastney (Notre Dame) signs with MON. Nick Perbix (SCSU) signs with TBL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 Portal entrants: CC soph F Jackson Jutting (3-7-10) UMD jr F Ben Almquist (2-3-5) Mercyhurst soph F Austin Heidemann (12-15-27) RPI leading scorer sr F Ture Linden (20-19-39) RPI jr F Zach Dubinsky (10-10-20) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 1 hour ago, tnt said: So, I wonder if Zach Dubinsky is the brother of Aiden Dubinsky who is committed to Duluth. Not real tough to figure out ... https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/526089/aiden-dubinsky <-- Lists a brother "Zach" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 Completely different goaltending outlook in the NCHC. I've heard Chrona is out after the F4. Other than Ludvig and Vernon a lot of new faces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scpa0305 Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 10 hours ago, Wilbur said: Completely different goaltending outlook in the NCHC. I've heard Chrona is out after the F4. Other than Ludvig and Vernon a lot of new faces. That would make complete sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SuhakiYeahYeah Posted April 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2022 Joey Abate signs with Providence of the AHL. In other news, cross checks and injuries in the NCHC is expected to drop significantly next season. Here is a live look in of the players that will be taking the ice against him: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, SuhakiYeahYeah said: Joey Abate signs with Providence of the AHL. < television announcer voice > And we go live to the USS Omaha Hockey ... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackheart Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: < television announcer voice > And we go live to the USS Omaha Hockey ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 UMass' Bobby Trivigno signs with NYR and gives up the Covid year. I haven't seen this much hype around an eastern kid since Jason Krog could walk on water at New Hampshire.* *The fact it was 10 degrees F didn't matter ... he's walking on water! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDMOORHEAD Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 1 hour ago, SuhakiYeahYeah said: Joey Abate signs with Providence of the AHL. In other news, cross checks and injuries in the NCHC is expected to drop significantly next season. Here is a live look in of the players that will be taking the ice against him: That's the appropriate organization for him to go to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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