TheFlop Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: Care to elaborate on this? Bison06 beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Serious question: are you upset that the president has gotten treatment that has improved his condition and is on track to be discharged today? What point are you trying to make by questioning his treatment and actions? Not upset at all. Hopefully he has a speedy recovery. Is he on track to be discharged today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Redneksioux said: It can suppress the immune system's activity, preventing your immune system from fighting off the virus if given too early. https://www.statnews.com/2020/10/04/trump-receiving-dexamethasone-steroid-usually-given-patients-with-severe-covid19/ Weiss said that Trump’s medical team had “an impossible job,” but that “you can’t say he’s fine and he’s going home tomorrow and by the way he’s getting dexamethasone, which was shown in [a clinical trial] to be helpful in only the sickest patients.” Now look up the risks of prednisone. Dexamethasone isn't some super secret, last ditch effort medication. It's prescribed every single day in our country for people with a wide variety of symptoms. He has some of the best doctors in the country looking after his every move, I trust their judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlop Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: It can suppress the immune system's activity, preventing your immune system from fighting off the virus if given too early. https://www.statnews.com/2020/10/04/trump-receiving-dexamethasone-steroid-usually-given-patients-with-severe-covid19/ Weiss said that Trump’s medical team had “an impossible job,” but that “you can’t say he’s fine and he’s going home tomorrow and by the way he’s getting dexamethasone, which was shown in [a clinical trial] to be helpful in only the sickest patients.” So a cardiologist from UC San Francisco that has never had any medical involvement with Trump is the person you cited? Once again, you do realize that as President you have some of the top doctors in the world at your disposal to treat you? Weiss apparently didn't make the team. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Redneksioux said: Not upset at all. Hopefully he has a speedy recovery. Is he on track to be discharged today? That decision is pending and will be made later today. The fact that they are even considering it should be incredible news for everyone that he is doing great. Yet, half of our country wants to continue to believe(Hopes) he is going to take a massive turn in the wrong direction because that would justify all of the lockdowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Bison06 said: Now look up the risks of prednisone. Dexamethasone isn't some super secret, last ditch effort medication. It's prescribed every single day in our country for people with a wide variety of symptoms. He has some of the best doctors in the country looking after his every move, I trust their judgement. 2.5-3M on some type of oral steroid yearly in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlop Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: Not upset at all. Hopefully he has a speedy recovery. Is he on track to be discharged today? Whether he is or whether they wait until tomorrow, does that really matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teeder11 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 33 minutes ago, Kab said: Hopefully this thread is shut down after the election or better yet the day before there must be some sites that anyone can post on besides this one for politics Amen, it won't be though. It's become such great click bait that it has to be driving some revenue for the site. Sad. But, hey, that's capitialism and I can't argue with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 minute ago, TheFlop said: So a cardiologist from UC San Francisco that has never had any medical involvement with Trump is the person you cited? Once again, you do realize that as President you have some of the top doctors in the world at your disposal to treat you? Weiss apparently didn't make the team. I don't doubt that he has some of the world's top doctors. I do doubt the message they are portraying based on the treatments he's received and the answers they've refused to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlop Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, Redneksioux said: I don't doubt that he has some of the world's top doctors. I do doubt the message they are portraying based on the treatments he's received and the answers they've refused to answer. Sure they aren't gonna tell you every single minute detail about his treatment, but when you step back and examine what has been made public it's actually quite a bit. How much more do you need? Do you want them to say that instead of one hour on supplemental oxygen he was actually on it for two hours ....so you and your friends can justify cleaning out the toilet paper aisle at Walmart again? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: I don't doubt that he has some of the world's top doctors. I do doubt the message they are portraying based on the treatments he's received and the answers they've refused to answer. This is where I can't get on board with the way people treat Trump as compared to other presidents. The POTUS is the most powerful person in the world. His health is a matter of national security and in many cases a matter that has massive international consequences. We are on a need to know basis as the public and I'm perfectly fine with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlop Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: I don't doubt that he has some of the world's top doctors. I do doubt the message they are portraying based on the treatments he's received and the answers they've refused to answer. And regardless of the motive, unless you think his team pulled off a RBG Weekend at Bernie's like stunt and made a near dead person look alive for a photo op, the fact that he was riding around in a car over the weekend without tubes coming out everywhere is a sign that things aren't as dire as some would like to believe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bison06 said: This is where I can't get on board with the way people treat Trump as compared to other presidents. The POTUS is the most powerful person in the world. His health is a matter of national security and in many cases a matter that has massive international consequences. We are on a need to know basis as the public and I'm perfectly fine with that. Fair enough on the international consequences. So why even release that he's gotten dexamethasone? The mixed message is what has everyone going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison06 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Just now, Redneksioux said: Fair enough on the international consequences. So why even release that he's gotten dexamethasone? The mixed message is what has everyone going. Because if they don't come out with it and supersleuths on the left find out then it's a huge scandal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, Bison06 said: This is where I can't get on board with the way people treat Trump as compared to other presidents. The POTUS is the most powerful person in the world. His health is a matter of national security and in many cases a matter that has massive international consequences. We are on a need to know basis as the public and I'm perfectly fine with that. FDR (polio) couldn't walk. The media kept that quiet. What is the standard? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sicatoka Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 What theories have I seen this weekend: - he's faking for pity - he's really really ill (see: movie "Dave") - the guy in the SUV was double - he's actually negotiating another peace treaty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison Dan Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: Fair enough on the international consequences. So why even release that he's gotten dexamethasone? The mixed message is what has everyone going. Only to TDS people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, The Sicatoka said: What theories have I seen this weekend: - he's faking for pity - he's really really ill (see: movie "Dave") - the guy in the SUV was double - he's actually negotiating another peace treaty - he's pretending to have Covid so he doesn't have to debate "Here's the deal" Joe (Joy Reid) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneksioux Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: - he's pretending to have Covid so he doesn't have to debate "Here's the deal" Joe (Joy Reid) Where are you guys seeing all of these theories, because I must say this is the only place I've seen them. And they are only being posted by Trump supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlop Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Redneksioux said: Where are you guys seeing all of these theories, because I must say this is the only place I've seen them. And they are only being posted by Trump supporters. Better call midco/quest because someone severed the DSL line going to your bunker if you haven't seen the "if he recovers too quickly it must have been a hoax" theories that are out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDlaw80 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Redneksioux said: Fair enough on the international consequences. So why even release that he's gotten dexamethasone? The mixed message is what has everyone going. The standard is to project an image of strength, and/or craft a message that’s in the President's best interest. It's been the standard since forever. WH doctors aren’t, nor have they ever been immune to playing (or being forced to play) the PR game. We recently witnessed the same in Britain with Boris Johnson. But, unlike in the past, it's more difficult to do in today's world. This leads to mixed messaging and non-answers, which opens the door for stupid conspiracy theories. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen4sioux Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 28 minutes ago, UNDlaw80 said: The standard is to project an image of strength, and/or craft a message that’s in the President's best interest. It's been the standard since forever. WH doctors aren’t, nor have they ever been immune to playing (or being forced to play) the PR game. We recently witnessed the same in Britain with Boris Johnson. But, unlike in the past, it's more difficult to do in today's world. This leads to mixed messaging and non-answers, which opens the door for stupid conspiracy theories. Agree. Thats a fair assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goon Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Kab said: Hopefully this thread is shut down after the election or better yet the day before there must be some sites that anyone can post on besides this one for politics Or you don’t have to read it. No one is forcing you to read this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sioux>Bison Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Ah finally 11 o’clock time for some Rush Limbaugh!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDlaw80 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Kayleigh McEnany tests positive. This is like a bad zombie movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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