Own The Farm Week

[northernraider]

13 minutes ago, SiouxForever said:

Anyone know the tv options tomorrow? Obviously, it will be on KVLY, how about streaming options?

Appreciate any insight. 

ESPN Plus

[Gothmog]

41 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said:

Exactly.....line opened at UND +26.5. It's now at UND +31.5 meaning bets were/are coming in on NDSU to lay the points thus increasing the spread to try to attract some bets on UND and the points.

Obviously looking for a competitive game and hopefully an upset.

IMO UND getting 31.5 is way too much. UND should cover that easily.

Well, if the spread really is too high you'd expect some of that legendary "own the farm" money to move it down where it ought to be. At UND +31.5 it's easy money...right? You better get yourself some of that.

[ArchyAlum11]

6 minutes ago, Gothmog said:

Well, if the spread really is too high you'd expect some of that legendary "own the farm" money to move it down where it ought to be.

Yeah I think that is mostly just the arrogance, its way to early in the season to judge, but the last time Butler and Drake met, Butler got crushed by 30 points, So being that UND just crushed Drake by a very wide margin that makes NDSU's defeat of Butler less intimidating. I didn't watch either game as I was up fishing in a place with no signal and no wifi but, all the information suggests that this should be a very close match up, which as much as the Farm may hate the Airstrip, a close highly competitive game would go a long way to restoring the rivalry.

[Nodak78]

Where can I find the Bison game notes or are too cheap to place them on the web.

[Shawn-O]

13 minutes ago, Gothmog said:

Well, if the spread really is too high you'd expect some of that legendary "own the farm" money to move it down where it ought to be. At UND +31.5 it's easy money...right? You better get yourself some of that.

Your "own the pharm" money is driving it up...

[OgieOgilthorpe]

NDSU 38

UND 13

It'll feel and look like a better game than 2015 though 

[northernraider]

NDSU 17

UND 7 at the half

Final

NDSU 31

UND 17

[UND1983]

1 hour ago, Gothmog said:

You do understand that point spreads are set to equalize betting on both sides of the bet thereby locking in a profit for the house. Other than the initial spread, the spread is set by bettors voting with their dollars.

the point spreads for FCS games are strictly a mathematical model which resembles Massey very closely.  They know nothing and put no time into it whatsoever.

[Gothmog]

49 minutes ago, UND1983 said:

the point spreads for FCS games are strictly a mathematical model which resembles Massey very closely.  They know nothing and put no time into it whatsoever.

That's exactly the point. The house doesn't make money by winning its bet with with bettors more often than it loses, that would expose them to losing money. It locks in a profit by equalizing the amount wagered on either side of a proposition and pocketing its cut.The house isn't interested in gambling with its own money.  They don't care if the spread is accurate as long as it locks in their profit.

[bison73]

5 hours ago, Nodak78 said:

It is reasonable the Bison score 38 but I don't think so.  UND is better than giving up 38.

 

How much better? Considering the stats from the last time we played you would have to get better.

 

Originally Posted by Mr. Burgundy

Was the 2015 meeting the most lopside game in the history of the Fargo dome? THe final score may not truly reflect how humiliating that game truly was. Klieman was a gentleman and Bubba was well aware of it.

First downs: 21 to 3.
Time of possession at 36:36.
Total yards......61. Which is the record low for a visitor in the Fargo dome. NDSU had 377 including 262 in the air for 4 TD's.
The Fighting Hawks had 4 yards rushing on 26 carries.

Classy move by Chris to take the foot off the gas as the point was proven. THe game starts with recruiting, it has been dominant.

[Nodak78]

34 minutes ago, bison73 said:

 

How much better? Considering the stats from the last time we played you would have to get better.

 

Originally Posted by Mr. Burgundy

Was the 2015 meeting the most lopside game in the history of the Fargo dome? THe final score may not truly reflect how humiliating that game truly was. Klieman was a gentleman and Bubba was well aware of it.

First downs: 21 to 3.
Time of possession at 36:36.
Total yards......61. Which is the record low for a visitor in the Fargo dome. NDSU had 377 including 262 in the air for 4 TD's.
The Fighting Hawks had 4 yards rushing on 26 carries.

Classy move by Chris to take the foot off the gas as the point was proven. THe game starts with recruiting, it has been dominant.

2015 is not relevant.

 

I don't think UND gives up more than 28.  I think o/u line at 49 is fine.  I'm guessing 28-21 Bison.   But pulling for the upset.  And I think it can happen this year.  The stars are aligned.

[gundy1124]

30 minutes ago, bison73 said:

 

How much better? Considering the stats from the last time we played you would have to get better.

 

Originally Posted by Mr. Burgundy

Was the 2015 meeting the most lopside game in the history of the Fargo dome? THe final score may not truly reflect how humiliating that game truly was. Klieman was a gentleman and Bubba was well aware of it.

First downs: 21 to 3.
Time of possession at 36:36.
Total yards......61. Which is the record low for a visitor in the Fargo dome. NDSU had 377 including 262 in the air for 4 TD's.
The Fighting Hawks had 4 yards rushing on 26 carries.

Classy move by Chris to take the foot off the gas as the point was proven. THe game starts with recruiting, it has been dominant.

You guys are still attaching Rudy to the game tomorrow??  Honestly, what team goes under center for 15 seconds in the Fargo Dome and tries to make a bunch of adjustments at the line? (2015 Fighting Hawks is the only one that comes to mind)

We have called out Rudy that game and the next 3 years non stop.  The last showing in the Fargo Dome was a complete embarrassment, no augments here.  

[homer]

35 minutes ago, bison73 said:

 

How much better? Considering the stats from the last time we played you would have to get better.

 

Originally Posted by Mr. Burgundy

Was the 2015 meeting the most lopside game in the history of the Fargo dome? THe final score may not truly reflect how humiliating that game truly was. Klieman was a gentleman and Bubba was well aware of it.

First downs: 21 to 3.
Time of possession at 36:36.
Total yards......61. Which is the record low for a visitor in the Fargo dome. NDSU had 377 including 262 in the air for 4 TD's.
The Fighting Hawks had 4 yards rushing on 26 carries.

Classy move by Chris to take the foot off the gas as the point was proven. THe game starts with recruiting, it has been dominant.

OC did nothing to allow the players to have any success that game.  Not an excuse, it is what it is and that was one of the poorest games in the dome.  

For as bad as the offense was, I’m surprised NDSU only had 377 total yards.  They were on the field all game.  

[bison73]

1 minute ago, homer said:

OC did nothing to allow the players to have any success that game.  Not an excuse, it is what it is and that was one of the poorest games in the dome.  

For as bad as the offense was, I’m surprised NDSU only had 377 total yards.  They were on the field all game.  

Played a lot of reserves. Took the foot off the gas.

[Gothmog]

Just now, Nodak78 said:

2015 is not relevant.

It's relevant because it indicates the relative state for the two programs just 4 years ago. Is there any reason to think has UND improved enough and/or that has NDSU dropped off enough to make the game competitive? UND had one of its best seasons since moving to DI that year and yet the game was a embarrassing blowout. Honestly, there's no reason to think that this game won't be more of the same.

[Nodak78]

1 minute ago, Gothmog said:

It's relevant because it indicates the relative state for the two programs just 4 years ago. Is there any reason to think has UND improved enough and/or that has NDSU dropped off enough to make the game competitive? UND had one of its best seasons since moving to DI that year and yet the game was a embarrassing blowout. Honestly, there's no reason to think that this game won't be more of the same.

I hope your team has the same prep

[gundy1124]

7 minutes ago, bison73 said:

Played a lot of reserves. Took the foot off the gas.

I am calling Fake News.  I remember the last 4-5 minutes.  That's about 8% of the game.

Like it or not NDSU had a hard time running the ball in 2015 and to their credit they adjusted and ate up a pretty poor UND secondary.  Our corners are pretty salty this year.

As said, our deficiencies were magnified by a good team and it was embarrassing in 2015.  I really don't have a good feel for the game tomorrow, other than our offense will not look like 2015.

The game probably goes as good or bad as T. Lance is.  He seemed to be the best weapon on the field (against Butler) and there isn't a close 2nd.

[stonebreaker]

24 minutes ago, gundy1124 said:

You guys are still attaching Rudy to the game tomorrow??  Honestly, what team goes under center for 15 seconds in the Fargo Dome and tries to make a bunch of adjustments at the line? (2015 Fighting Hawks is the only one that comes to mind)

We have called out Rudy that game and the next 3 years non stop.  The last showing in the Fargo Dome was a complete embarrassment, no augments here.  

I read it that based off last time stats, this game can only go better.

[bison73]

12 minutes ago, Nodak78 said:

I hope your team has the same prep

Talked to the new head coach today.  Only thing that remains the same is the focus on what they have to do.

[gundy1124]

2 minutes ago, stonebreaker said:

I read it that based off last time stats, this game can only go better.

......unless they don't have the class this year to take the foot off the pedal.

"Classy move by Chris to take the foot off the gas as the point was proven."

[gundy1124]

4 minutes ago, bison73 said:

Talked to the new head coach today.  Only thing that remains the same is the focus on what they have to do.

Probably keep the pedal down right, showing a lot of class, maybe snap a leg or two along the way.

[Nodak78]

4 minutes ago, bison73 said:

Talked to the new head coach today.  Only thing that remains the same is the focus on what they have to do.

That is good.  Let's play the game.  

[gundy1124]

These ears need some silence!! - Rocky Hagar

[homer]

26 minutes ago, bison73 said:

Played a lot of reserves. Took the foot off the gas.

According to the drive chart on the game Wentz was still playing late in the 4th and your first and second string RBs were getting carries with less than 5 mins to go.  

Not that I don’t believe you.  Maybe it was other less important positions like Special teams.  It was an ass kicking and I was half a case in by that point.  

[bison73]

3 minutes ago, gundy1124 said:

......unless they don't have the class this year to take the foot off the pedal.

"Classy move by Chris to take the foot off the gas as the point was proven."

smh