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30 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

A student-athlete who tests positive for a substance in a banned drug class other than “street drugs” is charged with the loss of one season of competition in all sports in addition to the use of a season, pursuant to Division I Bylaw 12.8.3.1 or Division II/III Bylaw 14.2.4.1,

Which part of this is ambiguous? Caffiene is in the banned drug class of stimulant. This sentence refers directly to those drug classes.

What am I missing?

You know they don't test for street drugs or stimulants, while they do test for other drugs, during the season right?

Those begin during the playoffs.

Why are they tested separately? They don't see them as "performance enhancing." 

Thus, the NCAA gives out less suspension for "street drugs." 

Cocaine and Caffeine are classified the same to the NCAA.

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3 minutes ago, Cratter said:

You know they don't test for street drugs or stimulants during the season right? But they do for other classifications.

Just the Championship part. These are tested separately.

Why? They don't see those as the "performancing enhancing." 

Thus, the NCAA gives out less suspension for "street drugs." 

Cocaine and Caffeine are classified the same in the NCAA.

So where are your athletes getting there supplements?  Does the school supply them? Are there representatives from these companies on campus? Do the athletes buy them themselves?Who monitors these activities?

The reason I ask is its already been stated here that UND athletes take supplements and its in every locker room in the country.

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1 minute ago, bison73 said:

So where are your athletes getting there supplements?  Does the school supply them? Are there representatives from these companies on campus? Do the athletes buy them themselves?Who monitors these activities?

The reason I ask is its already been stated here that UND athletes take supplements and its in every locker room in the country.

The illegal ones don’t come from our coaching staff.  Can you confidently say the same??

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9 minutes ago, Cratter said:

You know they don't test for street drugs or stimulants, while they do test for other drugs, during the season right?

Those begin during the playoffs.

Why are they tested separately? They don't see them as "performance enhancing." 

Thus, the NCAA gives out less suspension for "street drugs." 

Cocaine and Caffeine are classified the same to the NCAA.

What does any of the above have to do with the fact that you specifically stated that a player wouldn’t get a year suspension for caffiene and then I posted a direct quote from the ncaa website that says that in fact you can and do get suspended for a year for caffiene?

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1 minute ago, bison73 said:

So where are your athletes getting there supplements?  Does the school supply them? Are there representatives from these companies on campus? Do the athletes buy them themselves?Who monitors these activities?

Maybe email Matt Larson and ask him if you want answers?

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1 hour ago, Cratter said:

Your a big boy. You can go find it. It's not hard. Just a little intelligence will lead you there. Nevermind, you'll probably never find it.

He didn't test positive for caffeine. They don't give out a year suspension for stimulants  (caffeine).

A guy paid for by NDSU gave Performance enhancing substance that was widely used throughout the locker room.

 

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The NCAA easily reduces suspensions all the time for things like these. 

Right on the NCAA appeals page, "All you have to show is Robbins asked if the product contained a banned substance (cause the label said it didn't) and staffers said "No."

That would likely be enough to overturn it.

But in this case it was so cut and dry the NCAA had to say "Nope."

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Either NDSU has been slandered or is lying. 

After seeing the polar opposites presented by the Robbins and Larson I believe any investigative effort should come from outside NDSU. 

Its the only way to ensure a complete and unbiased fact finding. 

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1 minute ago, Cratter said:

The NCAA easily reduces suspensions all the time for things like these. 

Right on the NCAA appeals page, "All you have to show is Robbins asked if the product contained a banned substance (cause the label said it didn't) and Newman said "No." That would be enought to overturn it.

But in this case it was so cut and dry the NCAA had to say "Nope."

Again you have no clue what you are talking about.

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4 minutes ago, bison73 said:

Again you have no clue what you are talking about.

A lot more than you do.

Unfortunately for NDSU, they can't use that appeal material right on the NCAA website, because it would have had to admit to administering the substance by someone NDSU hired.

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2 minutes ago, Siouxphan27 said:

So the turds won’t believe the Robbins family when they are quoted, but now all of a sudden they fully believe the stimulant in question is caffeine, despite zero reports stating it was caffeine.  

 

And we are the ones jumping to conclusions. :whistling::whistling:

And you believe the opposite even though it wasnt reported. :whistling:

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