nodak651 Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 1 minute ago, forksandspoons said: Anyone?! In my opinion, at this level and above, it's ineffective. BUT THE PLAYERS DON"T EXECUTE herrderr... Play calling is great! 1 Quote
Cratter Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 Certainly out recruited by the Coyotes at QB. Quote “They (South Dakota) did the extra things to show they care,” Streveler said of new head coach Bob Nielson, who won the 2008 and 2010 NCAA Division II titles at Minnesota Duluth. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, geaux_sioux said: The defections of Grady, Williams, and that guys from Kansas didn't help one bit. Three really good recruits gone from one class. Shhhhh, those are just "excuses"! (sarcasm) Quote
Midwestern Hawk Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, forksandspoons said: Anyone?! In my opinion, at this level and above, it's ineffective. It can be effective if it is setup properly. Needs to be faked on many plays to be really effective IMO. It is a way UND could spread out the 7-8 in the box in addition to play action. Adeotti with his speed could be very effective in this role. After a couple of big gainers, it changes everything for the defense. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 Just now, Midwestern Hawk said: It can be effective if it is setup properly. Needs to be faked on many plays to be really effective IMO. It is a way UND could spread out the 7-8 in the box in addition to play action. Adeotti with his speed could be very effective in this role. After a couple of big gainers, it changes everything for the defense. No, don't you understand? We have to run it up the middle over and over again! Anything else is too risky! (sarcasm) 1 Quote
forksandspoons Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 Just now, Midwestern Hawk said: It can be effective if it is setup properly. Needs to be faked on many plays to be really effective IMO. It is a way UND could spread out the 7-8 in the box in addition to play action. Adeotti with his speed could be very effective in this role. After a couple of big gainers, it changes everything for the defense. I get that. But if you look around the FCS and FBS, can you think of a single good team that runs it (or fakes it) to the extent UND does? Why does UND feel it works so well when others don't? Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, mooncountry said: Rebuilding for the last 10ish yrs? Has Bubba been in charge for the last 10-ish years? No? Then take your ignorant comments elsewhere! I am not in the mood for nonsense today. 2 Quote
SlowHand Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, forksandspoons said: Anyone?! In my opinion, at this level and above, it's ineffective. Oklahoma, Iowa, Oregon, Dallas Cowboys, Minnesota Vikings, Seahawks, most NFL teams, etc........ Quote
Longtime fan Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 What was unds first offensive play? Quote
geaux_sioux Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, mooncountry said: Rebuilding for the last 10ish yrs? Yea like last year. Total rebuild mode. GTFOH. Quote
forksandspoons Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 Just now, SlowHand said: Oklahoma, Iowa, Oregon, Dallas Cowboys, Minnesota Vikings, Seahawks, most NFL teams, etc........ To the extent UND does? No. A couple times a game, sure. Quote
Bison06 Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 13 minutes ago, forksandspoons said: Anyone?! In my opinion, at this level and above, it's ineffective. It was a major staple of NDSU's offense during their run. Ohio state also runs it pretty consistently. 1 Quote
geaux_sioux Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 Just now, Bison06 said: It was a major staple of NDSU's offense during their run. Ohio state also runs it pretty consistently. It's a staple in football in general right now. All levels use it. Quote
SlowHand Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 Just now, forksandspoons said: To the extent UND does? No. A couple times a game, sure. Percy Harvin runs it a LOT for Seattle. Quote
forksandspoons Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 Just now, Bison06 said: It was a major staple of NDSU's offense during their run. Ohio state also runs it pretty consistently. I've watched nearly every NDSU game for more than the last 5-6 years. I realize teams run it, but it seems UND runs it way more often than anyone. Quote
Sioux94 Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Longtime fan said: What was unds first offensive play? It was a pass, a roll out to his right. It was incomplete. Quote
Bison06 Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 1 minute ago, forksandspoons said: I've watched nearly every NDSU game for more than the last 5-6 years. I realize teams run it, but it seems UND runs it way more often than anyone. NDSU ran it more than UND does now when Ryan smith was on the team. Quote
Longtime fan Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 Just now, Sioux94 said: It was a pass, a roll out to his right. It was incomplete. Wow!! Santiago injured?? Quote
forksandspoons Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, SlowHand said: Percy Harvin runs it a LOT for Seattle. Percy Harvin hasn't played for Seattle in a while and had 11 rushing attempts in 2014 when he did Quote
forksandspoons Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Bison06 said: NDSU ran it more than UND does now when Ryan smith was on the team. I'll eat my crow on that one. Quote
cberkas Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, SlowHand said: Percy Harvin runs it a LOT for Seattle. I think he retired. Quote
forksandspoons Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 1 minute ago, forksandspoons said: I'll eat my crow on that one. 5 minutes ago, Bison06 said: NDSU ran it more than UND does now when Ryan smith was on the team. Well, maybe. Smith had 11 carries in 14 games in '13-14. Obviously und players aren't racking up the carries off the sweep, either. Quote
Cratter Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 9 minutes ago, forksandspoons said: I've watched nearly every NDSU game for more than the last 5-6 years. I realize teams run it, but it seems UND runs it way more often than anyone. UND didn't run it that much. Fake it a few times, ran it a couple. That's football man. Get use to it. Quote
fightingsioux4life Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, mooncountry said: Chill out. Who'd we beat last year? Last year got everyone's heads alittle too big and while I don't think UND is 38 points worse than USD, I do think this schedule is waaaay more difficult than last years and we have yet to prove the rankings. You make an asinine comment about rebuilding for 10-ish years and you think you won't get push back? Quote
forksandspoons Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 1 minute ago, Cratter said: UND didn't run it that much. Fake it a few times, ran it a couple. That's football man. Get use to it. Let me vent, man. 1 Quote
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