Gameday vs USD

[geaux_sioux]

3 minutes ago, mooncountry said:

Rebuilding for the last 10ish yrs?

Yea like last year. Total rebuild mode. GTFOH.

[forksandspoons]

Just now, SlowHand said:

Oklahoma, Iowa, Oregon,  Dallas Cowboys,  Minnesota Vikings, Seahawks,  most NFL teams,  etc........

To the extent UND does? No. A couple times a game, sure. 

[Bison06]

13 minutes ago, forksandspoons said:

Anyone?! In my opinion, at this level and above, it's ineffective. 

It was a major staple of NDSU's offense during their run. Ohio state also runs it pretty consistently.

[geaux_sioux]

Just now, Bison06 said:

It was a major staple of NDSU's offense during their run. Ohio state also runs it pretty consistently.

It's a staple in football in general right now. All levels use it. 

[forksandspoons]

Just now, Bison06 said:

It was a major staple of NDSU's offense during their run. Ohio state also runs it pretty consistently.

I've watched nearly every NDSU game for more than the last 5-6 years. I realize teams run it, but it seems UND runs it way more often than anyone. 

[Sioux94]

3 minutes ago, Longtime fan said:

What was unds first offensive play? 

It was a pass, a  roll out to his right.  It was incomplete. 

[Bison06]

1 minute ago, forksandspoons said:

I've watched nearly every NDSU game for more than the last 5-6 years. I realize teams run it, but it seems UND runs it way more often than anyone. 

NDSU ran it more than UND does now when Ryan smith was on the team.

[Longtime fan]

Just now, Sioux94 said:

It was a pass, a  roll out to his right.  It was incomplete. 

Wow!!  Santiago injured?? 

[forksandspoons]

2 minutes ago, SlowHand said:

Percy Harvin runs it a LOT for Seattle. 

Percy Harvin hasn't played for Seattle in a while and had 11 rushing attempts in 2014 when he did 

[forksandspoons]

3 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

NDSU ran it more than UND does now when Ryan smith was on the team.

I'll eat my crow on that one. 

[cberkas]

6 minutes ago, SlowHand said:

Percy Harvin runs it a LOT for Seattle. 

I think he retired.

[forksandspoons]

1 minute ago, forksandspoons said:

I'll eat my crow on that one. 

 

5 minutes ago, Bison06 said:

NDSU ran it more than UND does now when Ryan smith was on the team.

Well, maybe. Smith had 11 carries in 14 games in '13-14. Obviously und players aren't racking up the carries off the sweep, either. 

[Cratter]

9 minutes ago, forksandspoons said:

I've watched nearly every NDSU game for more than the last 5-6 years. I realize teams run it, but it seems UND runs it way more often than anyone. 

UND didn't run it that much. Fake it a few times, ran it a couple. That's football man. Get use to it.

[fightingsioux4life]

7 minutes ago, mooncountry said:

Chill out. Who'd we beat last year? Last year got everyone's heads alittle too big and while I don't think UND is 38 points worse than USD, I do think this schedule is waaaay more difficult than last years and we have yet to prove the rankings.

You make an asinine comment about rebuilding for 10-ish years and you think you won't get push back? 

[forksandspoons]

1 minute ago, Cratter said:

UND didn't run it that much. Fake it a few times, ran it a couple. That's football man. Get use to it.

Let me vent, man. 

[UNDBIZ]

11 minutes ago, mooncountry said:

Chill out. Who'd we beat last year? Last year got everyone's heads alittle too big and while I don't think UND is 38 points worse than USD, I do think this schedule is waaaay more difficult than last years and we have yet to prove the rankings.

"We"

[geaux_sioux]

We've got too many slow WRs still. Separation is key. It does us no good to go three wide with guys who can't separate against a decent CB.

[geaux_sioux]

Watching my LSU Tigers right now and they do a sweep action damn near every play.

[shep]

But they scored!

[F'n Hawks]

Fieldler has dissapointed so far this year. IMO he shouldn't play as much as he is, is it beacause we don't have other TE's that have experience and that he is a senior? 

[Longtime fan]

Not going to sugar coat this one at all.....this loss hurt and in so many ways. I have said for sometime USD is good and expected them to do some damage in the mvfc, but if UND wanted to be taken serious and looked upon as a potential title contender, this is a game they win...or at minimum a close loss. Instead they $&@! the bed. And that's being nice .   USD could of just as well been playing NorthEast Wisconsin st tech.   UND offered no resistance.   I taped this game , definitely will not watch it.  My frustration level currently is at 10!!    

[UND-FB-FAN]

1 hour ago, fightingsioux4life said:

USD had Joe Glenn before Nielsen. Glenn stabilized the program and Nielsen has simply built upon that.

UND had Mussman before Bubba. Mussman completely destroyed this program. I am not sure who would win between the 1985 team and the 2013 team.

It takes longer than 4 years to build quality depth in a numbers-oriented sport like FB. Especially when some guys crap out on the team and program (yes Grady, I am talking about you!).

A simple timeline as you describe doesn't work. If that was the case, every program would eventually turn around. Conversely, all top programs would stay on top when they lose their head coach, coaching staff, etc. It's clear that time is not the only factor, obviously. Bottomline is UND didn't get the job done today and that's really a major understatement. It's not a year-by-year plan issue, it's a failure today, this week, and this year issue. What happened today shouldn't happen with an opponent you defeated just the year before. What we saw today was clear regression and failure; to try justify that is pure ignorance, in my opinion. 

[geaux_sioux]

2 minutes ago, F'n Hawks said:

Fieldler has dissapointed so far this year. IMO he shouldn't play as much as he is, is it beacause we don't have other TE's that have experience and that he is a senior? 

He's a junior. He had a terrible game today. Everyone did. I can't think of one player who was really good today.

[UND-FB-FAN]

1 hour ago, tnt said:

Overreact much?

A 45 - 7 loss isn't okay. If you think criticizing that type of embarrassment is an overreaction, then you clearly have expectations that don't include accomplishment and respect. That shouldn't be associated with UND football, in my opinion. You have to change something for this to not happen again; expecting this whole disaster to spontaneously resolve would be beyond idiotic. Bubba has to make changes now, obviously. What those changes are remains to be seen: depth chart, schematics, staff positions, etc. 

[Hans8891]

When the entire UND cheering section is naming our play before it happens, it is not a stretch to assume the opposing defensive coordinator is doing the same.  Given that Santiago is running into 9 in the box on virtually every run, it is not an accident.  The d is struggling with injuries and youth, but the offense has an experienced line, a 4th year starting qb, 3 talented backs (two of whom we don't really use other than on obvious short yardage plays with 10 in the box), and a much improved receiving corps.  A learning curve is expected on defense and they will improve with experience.  Puzzled where we go on offense without a different strategy.