Siouxperfan7 Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 This topic was mentioned in a thread, and I thought that since the season is now over, why not start up a good conversation about the greatest players in UND basketball history. The question was asked whether Hooker is on UND's "Mount Rushmore" of basketball. Great question. UND has had some pretty spectacular players. 3 of the 4 I would put up there would be Scott Guldseth, Dave Vonesh, and Phil Jackson. But who gets the 4th spot? Hooker had one heck of a career. does he belong up there with the all time greats at UND? Players like Chirs Gardner, Travis Tuttle, Mike Boschee, Troy Huff, and Jerome Beasley (to name a few) all had great careers. So who is your "Mount Rushmore" of UND mens basketball?!! Quote
The Sicatoka Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 Not sure if it's limited to just players, or includes folks that have impacted the program and gone on to greatness. Depending on that answer: Bill Fitch (some random guy in a UND MBB jersey ) Jimmy Rodgers Quote
Nodak78 Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 If you bring coaches. Fitch would need to be towards the top. He and Jackson put ND on the map for starters. Quote
UND92 Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 1. Jackson 2. Guldseth 3. Hooker 4. Vonesh 5. Beasly, Bob Eaglestaff, Fred Lukens, and many others that I can't remember. Is this years team the best ever? I would say the Guldseth, Vonesh, Gardner, Jacobson, Robertson teams of the early 90's would give this team a good run and maybe was better over a 3+ year period. Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 "66 and '67 teams with Phil Jackson did well. Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 Posted January 12 · Report post Here a few players I could think of that did well at UND Herman Watesek (Lankin) (34, 35, 36 UND) 37-42 NBL Chuck Wolfe (Minot) (50 - 53 UND) Minneapolis Lakers 53 Jon Haaven (Mcintosh, MN) (55, 56, 57 ND) 1957 drafted Minneapolis Lakers Phil Jackson (Williston) (65, 66, & 67 UND) NBA NY Nicks Chris Fahrbach (Menasha, WI) (76-79 UND) 1979 drafted Milwakee Bucks Dan Clausen (Australia) (80, 81, 82 UND) professional career in Turkey and Australia. Scott Guldseth (Edingburg) early 90's Dave Vonesh (EGF, MN) (89, 90, 91 UND) Jerome Beasley (Compton, CA) (02, 03 UND) 2003 Miami Heat Now today is Quinton Hooker's 1st day after a successful college basket career, so I'd add him. Quote
Siouxperman8 Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 Vonesh has to be in my top 4 or 5. He was a monster. Quote
UND-1 Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 40 minutes ago, Oxbow6 said: Guldseth, Beasley, Jackson, Hooker. Beasley over Vonesh? Quote
94 Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 Hooker - D1 Era and took us to the Big Dance Guldseth Jackson Quote
Oxbow6 Posted March 17, 2017 Posted March 17, 2017 23 hours ago, UND-1 said: Beasley over Vonesh? Vonesh was a solid D2 player. Beasley was NBA talent. ........so yes. Quote
MafiaMan Posted March 29, 2017 Posted March 29, 2017 No @Oxbow6? He put up incredible numbers in the intramural league back in the day. Hung 50 on me in a semi-final game back in 88. Quote
petey23 Posted March 29, 2017 Posted March 29, 2017 On 3/17/2017 at 0:25 PM, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: Posted January 12 · Report post Here a few players I could think of that did well at UND Herman Watesek (Lankin) (34, 35, 36 UND) 37-42 NBL Chuck Wolfe (Minot) (50 - 53 UND) Minneapolis Lakers 53 Jon Haaven (Mcintosh, MN) (55, 56, 57 ND) 1957 drafted Minneapolis Lakers Phil Jackson (Williston) (65, 66, & 67 UND) NBA NY Nicks Chris Fahrbach (Menasha, WI) (76-79 UND) 1979 drafted Milwakee Bucks Dan Clausen (Australia) (80, 81, 82 UND) professional career in Turkey and Australia. Scott Guldseth (Edingburg) early 90's Dave Vonesh (EGF, MN) (89, 90, 91 UND) Jerome Beasley (Compton, CA) (02, 03 UND) 2003 Miami Heat Now today is Quinton Hooker's 1st day after a successful college basket career, so I'd add him. A list that large has to include Todd Johnson. 1 Quote
GDPritch Posted March 29, 2017 Posted March 29, 2017 Tuttle, Mustard and Rico were three real solid players too. Albeit, probably not top 10 but would think top 25 perhaps? Quote
UND Fan Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 On 3/28/2017 at 11:49 PM, GDPritch said: Tuttle, Mustard and Rico were three real solid players too. Albeit, probably not top 10 but would think top 25 perhaps? For those who remember Travis Tuttle, 27 years ago tonight, he scored 70 points of his HS team's 86 points. He made 17 3 pointers! Quote
GDPritch Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 Yah, he was quite the shooter/scorer, Played HS hoops in Wis, right, or am I wrong? Quote
GDPritch Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 Just now, GDPritch said: Yah, he was quite the shooter/scorer, Played HS hoops in Wis, right, or am I wrong? Tuttle Quote
UND Fan Posted December 20, 2018 Posted December 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, GDPritch said: Yah, he was quite the shooter/scorer, Played HS hoops in Wis, right, or am I wrong? Yep - Argyle, WI Quote
UND Fan Posted August 1, 2019 Posted August 1, 2019 Q got married a few days ago - congrats to him and his wife! Quote
petey23 Posted August 1, 2019 Posted August 1, 2019 On 3/28/2017 at 10:49 PM, GDPritch said: Tuttle, Mustard and Rico were three real solid players too. Albeit, probably not top 10 but would think top 25 perhaps? One thing to consider as people tend to look at things as Division 1 vs. division 2 and it might shade their point of view when comparing players.....you have to remember that there are about 65-70 more teams playing Division Basketball now as compared to the late 80's, early 90's which scholarship wise is another 800-900 athletes that would have been playing D1. The Rich Glas' and some of Dave Gunther's teams had more than their fair share of those players that would easily be division 1 by todays standards and opportunities. That said, here is my team of players in the modern era but pre D1 that I would put up against many of our recent teams...yes I know I cheating putting these guys on one team but it's my post. Point Guards--Rico Burkett, Burke Barlow Shooting Guards--Travis Tuttle, Mike Boschee, Hunter Berg Combo Guard(ball dominant)--Myron Allen Small Forwards--Scott Guldseth, Todd Johnson, Dave Rettker, Kyle Behrens Power Forwards--Jerome Beasley, Dave Robertson, Chris Gardner Posts--Dave Vonesh, Chad Mustard, Kevin Wilson Several of these guys can play a couple different positions and with the way todays game is played we would have some real difficult matchups with 6-7, 6-8 guys who can stretch teams out. 3 point shooters Tuttle-44% Guldseth-42% T. Johnson-42% Boschee-40% Behrens-38% What might have been if not for the NCAA screwing over yet another athlete with Myron Allen and Beasely. Kevin Wilson was an absolute manchild his Freshmen and Sophomore years until he tore up his knee. Never was the same after sitting out a year. With todays technology he probably makes a full recovery and has 2 more dominant years. Rico was such a great point guard and an absolute lockdown defender. I remember opposing point guards having to work just to get ball across half court. Robertson and Rettker were your jack of all trades guys and they knew how to get other teams off their games. I'll never forget Robertson blowing in Troy Hartman's ear at the free throw line. Rettker told myself and a couple others a story about playing pick up ball when he was back home against Michael Jordan...didn't go so well but you have to like a guy who wasn't afraid to trash talk the king of trash talk. Quote
SiouxVolley Posted August 1, 2019 Posted August 1, 2019 The upper teams in DII back in the 70’s are essentially DI now, as DI has grown from the low 200 in numbers then to more that 350 now. DII has also grown from 200 to nearly 300 in that same time. Most of those schools have come from NAIA, and the old upper half of DII have mostly moved to DI. Look at the Northern Sun, which was mostly NAIA then. Look at the DII NCAA playoff games that UND was involved in. Ark St, S Illinois, Old Dominion, Chattanooga and others were DII or college division then too. Switching from the college and university divisions had a major effect as the huge DIII was split off, but DII teams increasingly saw DII as not for them as it doesn’t give enough upside advertising for the money spent. http://www.ncaa.org/governance/division-ii-membership-growth The population may have doubled, but the student numbers in the 70’s were mainly higher then now. Being a DI school now is much less exclusive than a DI school in the 60’s and 70’s. The level of DII now isn’t comparable to what it was then. Quote
SIOUXFAN97 Posted December 26, 2020 Posted December 26, 2020 2020 hasn't been too good to geno by the looks of this pic... Quote
sioux24/7 Posted December 26, 2020 Posted December 26, 2020 54 minutes ago, SIOUXFAN97 said: 2020 hasn't been too good to geno by the looks of this pic... Woof! 1 Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted December 26, 2020 Posted December 26, 2020 I wonder if there is some part of Geno that wished he had stayed for his final year instead of heading out to Gonzaga? Looking at that website where that picture was, he averaged under 14 points a game in the Czech Republic. 1 Quote
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