SiouxVolley Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 21 hours ago, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: Something interesting to me, Since my freshman year '70 we have had only 3 MBB coaches. 17th Dave Gunther 1970–1987 18th Rich Glas 1988–2006 19th Brian Jones 2007- (????? 2017 ?????) What's so weird is the sequence of coaches corresponds with their years at UND. Maybe that means UND will go dancing this year. Quote
homer Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, hoops44 said: too bad ...better luck next game Any conference road win is a good win. Still doesn't change the OOC record and performance of the team during that time. Win the conference tournament or bust. 3 Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 1 minute ago, SiouxVolley said: What's so weird is the sequence of coaches corresponds with their years at UND. Maybe that means UND will go dancing this year. I never noticed, that's a good catch. Quote
hoops44 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 “We are pretty evenly matched talent-wise,” Crandall said. “They are well coached, we’re well coached. After a couple of close games, it develops that type of feel where you want to give each other your best shot. I’m not mad at it – I love games like this.” Geno played for Dave Thorsen of Mpls. Delasalle former Gopher Asst. under Clem Haskins ...and has won a record 5 state titles in Mn . and expected to make it 6 in a row. ...What would he know about good coaching compared to lets say Darryl 1 1 Quote
Popular Post darell1976 Posted January 13, 2017 Author Popular Post Posted January 13, 2017 1 hour ago, hoops44 said: “We are pretty evenly matched talent-wise,” Crandall said. “They are well coached, we’re well coached. After a couple of close games, it develops that type of feel where you want to give each other your best shot. I’m not mad at it – I love games like this.” Geno played for Dave Thorsen of Mpls. Delasalle former Gopher Asst. under Clem Haskins ...and has won a record 5 state titles in Mn . and expected to make it 6 in a row. ...What would he know about good coaching compared to lets say Darryl Has Crandall ever said Jones isn't a good coach and should be fired at the end of the year if they don't win a conference title or make the dance? No because players don't do that genius. Players backup their coaches, or else they aren't going to play, and that goes for all sports. Nice try. 6 Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 5 hours ago, hoops44 said: “We are pretty evenly matched talent-wise,” Crandall said. “They are well coached, we’re well coached. After a couple of close games, it develops that type of feel where you want to give each other your best shot. I’m not mad at it – I love games like this.” Geno played for Dave Thorsen of Mpls. Delasalle former Gopher Asst. under Clem Haskins ...and has won a record 5 state titles in Mn . and expected to make it 6 in a row. ...What would he know about good coaching compared to lets say Darryl or BarnWinterSportsEngelstad ? 1 Quote
homer Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 5 hours ago, hoops44 said: “We are pretty evenly matched talent-wise,” Crandall said. “They are well coached, we’re well coached. After a couple of close games, it develops that type of feel where you want to give each other your best shot. I’m not mad at it – I love games like this.” Geno played for Dave Thorsen of Mpls. Delasalle former Gopher Asst. under Clem Haskins ...and has won a record 5 state titles in Mn . and expected to make it 6 in a row. ...What would he know about good coaching compared to lets say Darryl Give me an example of a time in college sports (or any level) where a player openly criticized a coach and things ended well for the player. 4 Quote
UND Fan Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 On 1/12/2017 at 1:26 AM, BarnWinterSportsEngelstad said: Something interesting to me, Since my freshman year '70 we have had only 3 MBB coaches. 17th Dave Gunther 1970–1987 332-177 .652 18th Rich Glas 1988–2006 335-175 .633 19th Brian Jones 2007- (????? 2017 ?????) 153-175 .466 BWSE - I have added the three coaches' records and winning %s. It is interesting that Mr. Jones will surpass both Gunther and Glas in losses yet this year! His teams would need to win 110 games straight for him to attain a winning % of .600. Your thoughts on this, 44? I would like your honest thoughts instead of name-calling, etc. 3 Quote
SiouxVolley Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 50 minutes ago, homer said: Give me an example of a time in college sports (or any level) where a player openly criticized a coach and things ended well for the player. LeBron Quote
hoops44 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 Lebron James...got a new coach when he complained.....Nobody asked Geno about the coach ..he volunteered the praise Quote
Siouxperfan7 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 1 hour ago, UND Fan said: BWSE - I have added the three coaches' records and winning %s. It is interesting that Mr. Jones will surpass both Gunther and Glas in losses yet this year! His teams would need to win 110 games straight for him to attain a winning % of .600. Your thoughts on this, 44? I would like your honest thoughts instead of name-calling, etc. 1 Quote
NODAK13 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 1 hour ago, UND Fan said: BWSE - I have added the three coaches' records and winning %s. It is interesting that Mr. Jones will surpass both Gunther and Glas in losses yet this year! His teams would need to win 110 games straight for him to attain a winning % of .600. Your thoughts on this, 44? I would like your honest thoughts instead of name-calling, etc. Not sticking up for Jones in any way but obtaining a winning% like the prior coaches was made very difficult transitioning into the D1 era and playing every year a very difficult non conference schedule. 1 Quote
darell1976 Posted January 13, 2017 Author Posted January 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, NODAK13 said: Not sticking up for Jones in any way but obtaining a winning% like the prior coaches was made very difficult transitioning into the D1 era and playing every year a very difficult non conference schedule. Other coaches at another D1 ND school had no problems getting a winning percentage, beating ranked teams, and even winning in the dance. Talk about in-state competition. Quote
UND1983 Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 A player doesn't know what its like to play for a good, competent coach until they actually experience it. Ask the last couple classes of UND football players. 4 Quote
homer Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 19 minutes ago, hoops44 said: Lebron James...got a new coach when he complained.....Nobody asked Geno about the coach ..he volunteered the praise He didn't mention a our head coach coaches well. He said well coached, for all you and I know he is referring to the assistants. Also, LOL at the one example you can give is Lebron. Very comparible to UND. 1 Quote
darell1976 Posted January 13, 2017 Author Posted January 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, homer said: He didn't mention a our head coach coaches well. He said well coached, for all you and I know he is referring to the assistants. Also, LOL at the one example you can give is Lebron. Very comparible to UND. He does say that the only other coach that could ever replace Jones is Coach K, so we are right up there with Duke. Quote
homer Posted January 13, 2017 Posted January 13, 2017 34 minutes ago, darell1976 said: He does say that the only other coach that could ever replace Jones is Coach K, so we are right up there with Duke. It actually makes the case greater that no player will publically criticize a coach (unless you are one of the best on the planet). Plus, there is no idea of what question was asked and if coaching was part of the question. Quote
BarnWinterSportsEngelstad Posted January 14, 2017 Posted January 14, 2017 5 hours ago, UND Fan said: BWSE - I have added the three coaches' records and winning %s. It is interesting that Mr. Jones will surpass both Gunther and Glas in losses yet this year! His teams would need to win 110 games straight for him to attain a winning % of .600. Your thoughts on this, 44? I would like your honest thoughts instead of name-calling, etc. I was actually going to add their winning record on my initial post but I ran out of time, Thanks You. Quote
zonadub Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 Will the move to the Summit buy Jones more time? Quote
UND Fan Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 1 hour ago, zonadub said: Will the move to the Summit buy Jones more time? It shouldn't have any bearing on his coaching status. Quote
SWSiouxMN Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 51 minutes ago, zonadub said: Will the move to the Summit buy Jones more time? I don't think the conference move will change the current situation What happens this year will determine whether Jones makes it to the Summit or not. Unless of course he cashes in somewhere else if UND accomplishes its goals (make the NCAA tournament). To me, he's either going to get a multi-year extension or nothing. It would be unwise to give him another 1 year extension and have him coaching for another contract and go into a 2nd recruiting cycle that way. Its why I had a problem with Faison this summer not giving him a 1 year extension. If you ask me today what would happened I'd say Jones gets his extension. Ask me again in March and I may or may not have a different answer Quote
The Sicatoka Posted January 28, 2017 Posted January 28, 2017 1 hour ago, zonadub said: Will the move to the Summit buy Jones more time? I'd say no. It'll put more scrutiny on UND MBB playing the xDSUs and USD for six games a season. And I don't believe Jones will stand up to the scrutiny. 3 Quote
darell1976 Posted January 28, 2017 Author Posted January 28, 2017 1 hour ago, zonadub said: Will the move to the Summit buy Jones more time? I was thinking the same thing, however we still have another full season in the Big Sky before we move so I think that doesn't buy him more time. If we were to move to the SL next season he could be put into the boat that Mussman got going from the GWFC to the Big Sky to see how we do with a new conference. So unless we are dancing this year I don't see him in the Summit League. Quote
UND-1 Posted January 29, 2017 Posted January 29, 2017 As I said earlier this year..."seen this movie before". This season is playing out pretty much the same. Let's all hope Brian ScorJonese has a different ending for us in this flick. Quote
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