hoopster Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 So hoopster, in your opinion what would Jones have to go next year in order to be fired? I just wish since hoopster believes Jones is such a good coach that some other school would come calling Those expectations will remain internal. Brian is optimistic about a solid jump in the Sky next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Those expectations will remain internal. Brian is optimistic about a solid jump in the Sky next year. So 5 wins, maybe even 6? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darell1976 Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 You seem to be confusing a pipe dream with reality. We thought darrel was nuts when he started this thread when UND came in 2nd last season. The nut actually goes on other Big Sky boards and rips jones . Anybody who posts garbage for 418 days with zero chance of happening due to the absurdity of the idea needs to be called out. 418 DAYS and not even a hint about him getting canned by the people who actually know something about the UND athletic dept.Dude what is your problem. First I am not a member of any other board except this one, second you calling me a nut is a violation of this board and I and others I'm sure demand you be banned. If Gfhockey can get banned this one should be banned too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub27 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Those expectations will remain internal. With concrete answers like that, it is pretty clear that you are part of the %gobc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDBIZ Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 With concrete answers like that, it is pretty clear that you are part of the %gobc And live by the pool in Arizona, drink in hand...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericpnelson Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 With concrete answers like that, it is pretty clear that you are part of the %gobc bizarro gfhockey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmksioux Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Those expectations will remain internal. Brian is optimistic about a solid jump in the Sky next year. IF you truly are on the inside of the athletic department for UND, then we have some pretty big issues. I don't necessarily agree with getting rid of Jones this season, but there are obviously some red flags with his coaching performance. To say otherwise is just foolish... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UND-FB-FAN Posted March 11, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2015 418 straight days of fruitless whining is a pipe dream....With respect to Mens basketball we will look at the body of his Big Sky work at the end of next season. We have pleased with Jones work prior to this season. We evaluate coaches based on internal not external expectations. For example the Mens Basketball program evaluation his heavily weighted on conference play. Most fans do not understand that... We expected a down year this season and we had zero interest in letting Brian go this year. I'll bite. If you are a member of the athletic department, you epitomize one of the major issues with UND athletics and its expectations. You say that you disregard outside opinion, well, that outside opinion is the opinion of the people who pay for tickets and generate revenue for the athletic department. To disregard the opinion of paying fans and alumni is quite ignorant and misguided. Lastly, the Big Sky Conference is a pedestrian league filled with below average teams. The teams that consistently compete for conference crowns and NCAA tournament appearances (Montana and Weber State) have had their way with UND MBB, so perhaps you should analyze that before seeing 12-8 and immediately thinking everything is okay. Lastly, only looking at conference competition is narrow-minded; NDSU, SDSU and USD (former NCC and now Summit league teams) are all teams that UND should use as a standard. 2 of those 3 have made NCAA tournament appearances and, collectively, they have a winning record against UND. So, *IF* you are a member of the UND athletic department, you should realize your assessment criteria is in desperate need of revisment. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxbow6 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 "We" How many people does BJ have living in his basement? Simple question... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Sub .500 next year, either in conference or overall gets him fired a year early. Unless all of these message board heroes decide to pony up the money to cover the buyout this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodcon Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 With concrete answers like that, it is pretty clear that you are part of the %gobc Nailed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMSioux Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I'll bite. If you are a member of the athletic department, you epitomize one of the major issues with UND athletics and its expectations. You say that you disregard outside opinion, well, that outside opinion is the opinion of the people who pay for tickets and generate revenue for the athletic department. To disregard the opinion of paying fans and alumni is quite ignorant and misguided. Lastly, the Big Sky Conference is a pedestrian league filled with below average teams. The teams that consistently compete for conference crowns and NCAA tournament appearances (Montana and Weber State) have had their way with UND MBB, so perhaps you should analyze that before seeing 12-8 and immediately thinking everything is okay. Lastly, only looking at conference competition is narrow-minded; NDSU, SDSU and USD (former NCC and now Summit league teams) are all teams that UND should use as a standard. 2 of those 3 have made NCAA tournament appearances and, collectively, they have a winning record against UND. So, *IF* you are a member of the UND athletic department, you should realize your assessment criteria is in desperate need of revisment. They are also savvy enough to know that you don't gauge public opinion from a chat room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I certainly hope that Faison at least sat down with Jones earlier this week and outlined what his expectations are for next season. That is of course assuming he has expectations for Men's Basketball. If not, the inmates continue to run the asylum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND92,96 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 They are also savvy enough to know that you don't gauge public opinion from a chat room. Every message board has its share of crackpots, but I actually think the general sentiment of this board is probably pretty indicative of the public's opinion on the job Jones has done. Just like it was regarding the job his predecessor did. Even Tom Miller labeled Jones' body of work as "mediocre" in the Herald's live chat yesterday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niouxsiouxfan Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I certainly hope that Faison at least sat down with Jones earlier this week and outlined what his expectations are for next season. That is of course assuming he has expectations for Men's Basketball. If not, the inmates continue to run the asylum. This is what concerns me the most. I dont think Faison, or anyone else in the athletic department, has much of a clue what a successful MBB program can do for the school. (this, is where the hockey first mindset comes into play, I hate to bring it up). The MBB program should define championship game as the goal next year. Short of that, it would be tough to continue status quo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 The MBB program should define championship game as the goal next year. Short of that, it would be tough to continue status quo I don't disagree, but that is a huge leap. Going from last place to the conference title game in a year's time is a daunting task. If that were the stipulation that Faison put out there (not saying it is), then might as well cut the cord now rather than prolong it. My fear is that when/if he had a conversation with Jones, he told him we best make the conference tourney next year. That is a pretty low goal, but would be fairly remarkable considering where this program is at today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I don't disagree, but that is a huge leap. Going from last place to the conference title game in a year's time is a daunting task. If that were the stipulation that Faison put out there (not saying it is), then might as well cut the cord now rather than prolong it. My fear is that when/if he had a conversation with Jones, he told him we best make the conference tourney next year. That is a pretty low goal, but would be fairly remarkable considering where this program is at today. Too low. Top 3-4. His comments has boxed him in. If he squeaks in be better make a run. Plus if we go neutral next year? Everyone gets in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bincitysioux Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Too low. Top 3-4. His comments has boxed him in. If he squeaks in be better make a run. Plus if we go neutral next year? Everyone gets in To be clear, I didn't say that should be the goal, rather I fear that it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWSiouxMN Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 To be clear, I didn't say that should be the goal, rather I fear that it is. I hope not either. That's not real improvement. Only justification would be if they won the conference tourney from the 8 spot. Something tells me the deck will be stacked against us schedule wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 After watching a special tonight on WDAZ fawn over the question "what do you like better, Bison football or Bison basketball" I threw up in my mouth a little. I blame Faison, Kelly, and the ducky and bunny patrol for this state of affairs. Do we have the will be be successful? I'm not very sure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn-O Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 After watching a special tonight on WDAZ fawn over the question "what do you like better, Bison football or Bison basketball" I threw up in my mouth a little. I blame Faison, Kelly, and the ducky and bunny patrol for this state of affairs. Do we have the will be be successful? I'm not very sure. Faison and Jones' contracts run through 2017, so I don't see it getting any better in the next 12 months. We need some positivity around here...I hope the boys can deliver #8 in April. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightingsioux4life Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Faison and Jones' contracts run through 2017, so I don't see it getting any better in the next 12 months. We need some positivity around here...I hope the boys can deliver #8 in April. Amen to that. And this year's team has the potential to get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irish Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Amen to that. And this year's team has the potential to get it done. We really need a win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UND92,96 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Not that too many people have high expectations for next season anyway, but to give some idea of what UND is facing, EWU, Montana, NAU and Weber return a lot of proven production. And SUU and Montana St. return a similar amount as UND. I believe getting back anywhere close to the top of the standings is going to be far more difficult than it was in 2012-13 or 2013-14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux24/7 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Not that too many people have high expectations for next season anyway, but to give some idea of what UND is facing, EWU, Montana, NAU and Weber return a lot of proven production. And SUU and Montana St. return a similar amount as UND. I believe getting back anywhere close to the top of the standings is going to be far more difficult than it was in 2012-13 or 2013-14. There's a chance EWU loses Harvey. I guess he graduates in the spring and will be able to transfer and play immediately if he wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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